Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Darlene, You poor thing you should have went up and gave him the knee and said gee my Dad used to tell watch where you hit, that is outa bounds and not fair. I think that only counts if your a kid. You should write a letter. You know in my business If I mention anything anymore I get a handsome fine for example if I were to advertise close to churches, or professional neighborhood WHAM big fine, Because I am excluding someone...I looked it up and guess what, I can say everything except I could say (if I were ignorant) Great for a fat person wide halls.. Well, we are all going to be a healthy weight and that will be the time to fight for everyone's rights. I mean no one is going to take us that serious now..But watch out soon..very soon! I have spent a lot of time raising money for this or fighting not to have this next to a school, I am ready to fight for me! OK jumping down now..sorry about the rambling It just gets my blood flowing a little to fast when being fat can still be the brunt of a joke. Trisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Darlene, You poor thing you should have went up and gave him the knee and said gee my Dad used to tell watch where you hit, that is outa bounds and not fair. I think that only counts if your a kid. You should write a letter. You know in my business If I mention anything anymore I get a handsome fine for example if I were to advertise close to churches, or professional neighborhood WHAM big fine, Because I am excluding someone...I looked it up and guess what, I can say everything except I could say (if I were ignorant) Great for a fat person wide halls.. Well, we are all going to be a healthy weight and that will be the time to fight for everyone's rights. I mean no one is going to take us that serious now..But watch out soon..very soon! I have spent a lot of time raising money for this or fighting not to have this next to a school, I am ready to fight for me! OK jumping down now..sorry about the rambling It just gets my blood flowing a little to fast when being fat can still be the brunt of a joke. Trisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Darlene, You poor thing you should have went up and gave him the knee and said gee my Dad used to tell watch where you hit, that is outa bounds and not fair. I think that only counts if your a kid. You should write a letter. You know in my business If I mention anything anymore I get a handsome fine for example if I were to advertise close to churches, or professional neighborhood WHAM big fine, Because I am excluding someone...I looked it up and guess what, I can say everything except I could say (if I were ignorant) Great for a fat person wide halls.. Well, we are all going to be a healthy weight and that will be the time to fight for everyone's rights. I mean no one is going to take us that serious now..But watch out soon..very soon! I have spent a lot of time raising money for this or fighting not to have this next to a school, I am ready to fight for me! OK jumping down now..sorry about the rambling It just gets my blood flowing a little to fast when being fat can still be the brunt of a joke. Trisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 In a message dated 6/10/00 8:46:18 AM Central Daylight Time, amyp@... writes: << And along the same lines, have you guys seen the promos for " Big Momma " ? It's a new movie coming out. I'm sure the movie will be FLOODED with fat jokes. >> Amy, I feel the need to educate. The term " Big Mama " is a term of endearment in the Black community. A Big Mama is a grand mother. The term big has nothing to do with size. It has everything to do with elevating the status of the grandmother and delineating her from the mother. So, people, don't be so quick to take offense at something you know nothing of...or something you are unsure of. The movie is comical and funny. But, the butt of the jokes are not fat people. Most are cultural colloquialisms that all Black people will understand. So, now you know... le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 In a message dated 6/10/00 8:46:18 AM Central Daylight Time, amyp@... writes: << And along the same lines, have you guys seen the promos for " Big Momma " ? It's a new movie coming out. I'm sure the movie will be FLOODED with fat jokes. >> Amy, I feel the need to educate. The term " Big Mama " is a term of endearment in the Black community. A Big Mama is a grand mother. The term big has nothing to do with size. It has everything to do with elevating the status of the grandmother and delineating her from the mother. So, people, don't be so quick to take offense at something you know nothing of...or something you are unsure of. The movie is comical and funny. But, the butt of the jokes are not fat people. Most are cultural colloquialisms that all Black people will understand. So, now you know... le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 In a message dated 6/10/00 8:46:18 AM Central Daylight Time, amyp@... writes: << And along the same lines, have you guys seen the promos for " Big Momma " ? It's a new movie coming out. I'm sure the movie will be FLOODED with fat jokes. >> Amy, I feel the need to educate. The term " Big Mama " is a term of endearment in the Black community. A Big Mama is a grand mother. The term big has nothing to do with size. It has everything to do with elevating the status of the grandmother and delineating her from the mother. So, people, don't be so quick to take offense at something you know nothing of...or something you are unsure of. The movie is comical and funny. But, the butt of the jokes are not fat people. Most are cultural colloquialisms that all Black people will understand. So, now you know... le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 << A Big Mama is a grand mother. The term big has nothing to do with size. It has everything to do with elevating the status of the grandmother and delineating her from the mother. >> Hey, le! I work with many African-Americans...and they call me " Big Mama " or " Big Girl " or even " Big Sister " at times. It's a positive term in my experience. I'm a large woman...but I'm also older than many of the men I work with. You're absolutely correct; I have never felt maligned or put down by being called any of those things. Isn't it funny how we sometimes forget to celebrate our differences? Dee in MI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 << A Big Mama is a grand mother. The term big has nothing to do with size. It has everything to do with elevating the status of the grandmother and delineating her from the mother. >> Hey, le! I work with many African-Americans...and they call me " Big Mama " or " Big Girl " or even " Big Sister " at times. It's a positive term in my experience. I'm a large woman...but I'm also older than many of the men I work with. You're absolutely correct; I have never felt maligned or put down by being called any of those things. Isn't it funny how we sometimes forget to celebrate our differences? Dee in MI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 << A Big Mama is a grand mother. The term big has nothing to do with size. It has everything to do with elevating the status of the grandmother and delineating her from the mother. >> Hey, le! I work with many African-Americans...and they call me " Big Mama " or " Big Girl " or even " Big Sister " at times. It's a positive term in my experience. I'm a large woman...but I'm also older than many of the men I work with. You're absolutely correct; I have never felt maligned or put down by being called any of those things. Isn't it funny how we sometimes forget to celebrate our differences? Dee in MI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 << Well, we are all going to be a healthy > weight and that will be the time to fight for everyone's rights. >> The time to " fight " for everyone's " rights " is each day, with each circumstance, each opportunity that presents itself...each person we come into contact with. The " fight " is within ourselves to remember that EVERYONE is created in the image of God. The " fight " is to remember that Jesus came here for EVERYONE. The " fight " is to remember that each of us is interdependent upon every other one. We may not like the actions or speech of another; we may not withhold God's love and our own love from the person him or herself. The most powerful opportunity for change presents itself when we share our sadness or sorrow with another...and allow that other person to choose to adjust their actions or speech to reflect their new understanding of our differences. We gain so much by interacting positively and lovingly with each other; we gain nothing and no one by stomping into someone's life and demanding they change. Give them your experience and allow them to reflect on how their actions/speech impacted you; they'll usually make a positive change that both of you can live more fully with. If they don't; you have still taken the " high road " and haven't endangered your own connection with staying in God's light on your path Home. Of course, this doesn't take the same short amount of time that stomping around screaming and threatening takes; it takes more time, more energy, more self-love. In the long term analysis, we each only have a certain amount of time to spend here on this earth; why would we choose to spend it creating chasms rather than bridges? You are in my prayers daily. Dee in MI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 << Well, we are all going to be a healthy > weight and that will be the time to fight for everyone's rights. >> The time to " fight " for everyone's " rights " is each day, with each circumstance, each opportunity that presents itself...each person we come into contact with. The " fight " is within ourselves to remember that EVERYONE is created in the image of God. The " fight " is to remember that Jesus came here for EVERYONE. The " fight " is to remember that each of us is interdependent upon every other one. We may not like the actions or speech of another; we may not withhold God's love and our own love from the person him or herself. The most powerful opportunity for change presents itself when we share our sadness or sorrow with another...and allow that other person to choose to adjust their actions or speech to reflect their new understanding of our differences. We gain so much by interacting positively and lovingly with each other; we gain nothing and no one by stomping into someone's life and demanding they change. Give them your experience and allow them to reflect on how their actions/speech impacted you; they'll usually make a positive change that both of you can live more fully with. If they don't; you have still taken the " high road " and haven't endangered your own connection with staying in God's light on your path Home. Of course, this doesn't take the same short amount of time that stomping around screaming and threatening takes; it takes more time, more energy, more self-love. In the long term analysis, we each only have a certain amount of time to spend here on this earth; why would we choose to spend it creating chasms rather than bridges? You are in my prayers daily. Dee in MI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 << Well, we are all going to be a healthy > weight and that will be the time to fight for everyone's rights. >> The time to " fight " for everyone's " rights " is each day, with each circumstance, each opportunity that presents itself...each person we come into contact with. The " fight " is within ourselves to remember that EVERYONE is created in the image of God. The " fight " is to remember that Jesus came here for EVERYONE. The " fight " is to remember that each of us is interdependent upon every other one. We may not like the actions or speech of another; we may not withhold God's love and our own love from the person him or herself. The most powerful opportunity for change presents itself when we share our sadness or sorrow with another...and allow that other person to choose to adjust their actions or speech to reflect their new understanding of our differences. We gain so much by interacting positively and lovingly with each other; we gain nothing and no one by stomping into someone's life and demanding they change. Give them your experience and allow them to reflect on how their actions/speech impacted you; they'll usually make a positive change that both of you can live more fully with. If they don't; you have still taken the " high road " and haven't endangered your own connection with staying in God's light on your path Home. Of course, this doesn't take the same short amount of time that stomping around screaming and threatening takes; it takes more time, more energy, more self-love. In the long term analysis, we each only have a certain amount of time to spend here on this earth; why would we choose to spend it creating chasms rather than bridges? You are in my prayers daily. Dee in MI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 << It just gets my blood flowing a little to fast when being > fat can still be the brunt of a joke. >> Fat, schmat. We can be the brunt of jokes even when we achieve " normal " size. There's no end to the choices others have for making fun of us. Why is it so important that we control what other people say and do? When that question was asked of me many years ago by a wise doctor, it got me thinking. She was right; it IS a matter of control. I cannot control others, what they say or what they do. I can only control my response to it. I choose to respond positively, if at all. I've saved myself a lot of grief using this approach over the years. It ain't easy, I don't always succeed and I don't always like it...but long term: it works. God's love to you and yours, Dee in MI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 << It just gets my blood flowing a little to fast when being > fat can still be the brunt of a joke. >> Fat, schmat. We can be the brunt of jokes even when we achieve " normal " size. There's no end to the choices others have for making fun of us. Why is it so important that we control what other people say and do? When that question was asked of me many years ago by a wise doctor, it got me thinking. She was right; it IS a matter of control. I cannot control others, what they say or what they do. I can only control my response to it. I choose to respond positively, if at all. I've saved myself a lot of grief using this approach over the years. It ain't easy, I don't always succeed and I don't always like it...but long term: it works. God's love to you and yours, Dee in MI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 << It just gets my blood flowing a little to fast when being > fat can still be the brunt of a joke. >> Fat, schmat. We can be the brunt of jokes even when we achieve " normal " size. There's no end to the choices others have for making fun of us. Why is it so important that we control what other people say and do? When that question was asked of me many years ago by a wise doctor, it got me thinking. She was right; it IS a matter of control. I cannot control others, what they say or what they do. I can only control my response to it. I choose to respond positively, if at all. I've saved myself a lot of grief using this approach over the years. It ain't easy, I don't always succeed and I don't always like it...but long term: it works. God's love to you and yours, Dee in MI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Hey Darlene: You won't believe this...but I'm not going to yard sales today!! I am staying home to help with the pool. It is green because a part was ordered 8 wks ago and hadn't come in. It's in now and I need to help. We should have it ready to swim in by tomorrow evening. The kids next door...my grandkids...are chomping at the bit to get in. Everyone is amazed that I'm not out at yard sales today. I have NO swelling in my ankles or feet. I CAN walk with no pain and am not on arthritis medication. I am NOT hungry I have NO cravings Life is so good!!! (Except cold, icy water which I want to chug, not sip). Darlene, we expect those who have suffered prejudice to champion every cause when it comes to prejudice and to have none of their own. My best friend is a 43-year-old black man who is the director of a halfway house for alcoholics and drug addicts. As friends, we have suffered prejudice. We are often stared at when we go out for lunch, when we ride in a car, run to Wal-Mart, etc. Yet when we go out as two couples, he and his wife and my husband and I, there are no stares. The assumption is that the two women are friends and that is ok. But it's not ok for a white woman and a black man to be friends. Phooey. I would have thought Larry had no prejudice but he does. I catch him so many times in prejudice. He was very supportive of my surgery and I sense no prejudice against weight..defensiveness if anything. But although he won't admit it...I sense prejudice against anyone who doesn't work hard and have a good job. I see a tinge of prejudice against orientals too. When I call him on it..he says no..but when you are close to someone for ten years..you know. We had a discussion about the whole thing of prejudice..and we concluded that most people have them; they vary from person to person. They're no longer socially acceptable..but most of us have them. I think that weight is one of the few remaining socially acceptable prejudices. If it were me...I would confront this man on his poor taste but then I'm one ballsy broad (apologies for the descriptor). Have a great day Darlene. We sure are on an adventure. This morning I told my husband by this time next year I would weigh less than him. He said no you won't...I'm going on a diet. He's 195 and should be about 165...so any way you cut it, I'm likely to be at his weight or less next year. Not bad for a girl who weighed 232 on her wedding day 35 years ago! Flo in land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Hey Darlene: You won't believe this...but I'm not going to yard sales today!! I am staying home to help with the pool. It is green because a part was ordered 8 wks ago and hadn't come in. It's in now and I need to help. We should have it ready to swim in by tomorrow evening. The kids next door...my grandkids...are chomping at the bit to get in. Everyone is amazed that I'm not out at yard sales today. I have NO swelling in my ankles or feet. I CAN walk with no pain and am not on arthritis medication. I am NOT hungry I have NO cravings Life is so good!!! (Except cold, icy water which I want to chug, not sip). Darlene, we expect those who have suffered prejudice to champion every cause when it comes to prejudice and to have none of their own. My best friend is a 43-year-old black man who is the director of a halfway house for alcoholics and drug addicts. As friends, we have suffered prejudice. We are often stared at when we go out for lunch, when we ride in a car, run to Wal-Mart, etc. Yet when we go out as two couples, he and his wife and my husband and I, there are no stares. The assumption is that the two women are friends and that is ok. But it's not ok for a white woman and a black man to be friends. Phooey. I would have thought Larry had no prejudice but he does. I catch him so many times in prejudice. He was very supportive of my surgery and I sense no prejudice against weight..defensiveness if anything. But although he won't admit it...I sense prejudice against anyone who doesn't work hard and have a good job. I see a tinge of prejudice against orientals too. When I call him on it..he says no..but when you are close to someone for ten years..you know. We had a discussion about the whole thing of prejudice..and we concluded that most people have them; they vary from person to person. They're no longer socially acceptable..but most of us have them. I think that weight is one of the few remaining socially acceptable prejudices. If it were me...I would confront this man on his poor taste but then I'm one ballsy broad (apologies for the descriptor). Have a great day Darlene. We sure are on an adventure. This morning I told my husband by this time next year I would weigh less than him. He said no you won't...I'm going on a diet. He's 195 and should be about 165...so any way you cut it, I'm likely to be at his weight or less next year. Not bad for a girl who weighed 232 on her wedding day 35 years ago! Flo in land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Hey Darlene: You won't believe this...but I'm not going to yard sales today!! I am staying home to help with the pool. It is green because a part was ordered 8 wks ago and hadn't come in. It's in now and I need to help. We should have it ready to swim in by tomorrow evening. The kids next door...my grandkids...are chomping at the bit to get in. Everyone is amazed that I'm not out at yard sales today. I have NO swelling in my ankles or feet. I CAN walk with no pain and am not on arthritis medication. I am NOT hungry I have NO cravings Life is so good!!! (Except cold, icy water which I want to chug, not sip). Darlene, we expect those who have suffered prejudice to champion every cause when it comes to prejudice and to have none of their own. My best friend is a 43-year-old black man who is the director of a halfway house for alcoholics and drug addicts. As friends, we have suffered prejudice. We are often stared at when we go out for lunch, when we ride in a car, run to Wal-Mart, etc. Yet when we go out as two couples, he and his wife and my husband and I, there are no stares. The assumption is that the two women are friends and that is ok. But it's not ok for a white woman and a black man to be friends. Phooey. I would have thought Larry had no prejudice but he does. I catch him so many times in prejudice. He was very supportive of my surgery and I sense no prejudice against weight..defensiveness if anything. But although he won't admit it...I sense prejudice against anyone who doesn't work hard and have a good job. I see a tinge of prejudice against orientals too. When I call him on it..he says no..but when you are close to someone for ten years..you know. We had a discussion about the whole thing of prejudice..and we concluded that most people have them; they vary from person to person. They're no longer socially acceptable..but most of us have them. I think that weight is one of the few remaining socially acceptable prejudices. If it were me...I would confront this man on his poor taste but then I'm one ballsy broad (apologies for the descriptor). Have a great day Darlene. We sure are on an adventure. This morning I told my husband by this time next year I would weigh less than him. He said no you won't...I'm going on a diet. He's 195 and should be about 165...so any way you cut it, I'm likely to be at his weight or less next year. Not bad for a girl who weighed 232 on her wedding day 35 years ago! Flo in land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Dee, I agree, However right know I m just trying to make it thru the day! Trisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Dee, I agree, However right know I m just trying to make it thru the day! Trisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Dee, I agree, However right know I m just trying to make it thru the day! Trisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Trish, Before posting, I was trying to decide if I was overreacting (your know that hormone thing) or not and I knew you all would let me know. I hope to always be a champion to this cause. Darlene metrishal@... wrote: > Darlene, You poor thing you should have went up and gave him the knee and > said gee my Dad used to tell watch where you hit, that is outa bounds and not > fair. I think that only counts if your a kid. You should write a letter. > You know in my business If I mention anything anymore I get a handsome fine > for example if I were to advertise close to churches, or professional > neighborhood WHAM big fine, Because I am excluding someone...I looked it up > and guess what, I can say everything except I could say (if I were ignorant) > Great for a fat person wide halls.. Well, we are all going to be a healthy > weight and that will be the time to fight for everyone's rights. I mean no > one is going to take us that serious now..But watch out soon..very soon! I > have spent a lot of time raising money for this or fighting not to have this > next to a school, I am ready to fight for me! OK jumping down now..sorry > about the rambling It just gets my blood flowing a little to fast when being > fat can still be the brunt of a joke. > Trisha > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Go to Expedia.com to win airfare to Vegas for you and 20 friends, > $15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's. Or win 2 roundtrip > tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. Click here for a chance win. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5295/2/_/453517/_/960641149/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Trish, Before posting, I was trying to decide if I was overreacting (your know that hormone thing) or not and I knew you all would let me know. I hope to always be a champion to this cause. Darlene metrishal@... wrote: > Darlene, You poor thing you should have went up and gave him the knee and > said gee my Dad used to tell watch where you hit, that is outa bounds and not > fair. I think that only counts if your a kid. You should write a letter. > You know in my business If I mention anything anymore I get a handsome fine > for example if I were to advertise close to churches, or professional > neighborhood WHAM big fine, Because I am excluding someone...I looked it up > and guess what, I can say everything except I could say (if I were ignorant) > Great for a fat person wide halls.. Well, we are all going to be a healthy > weight and that will be the time to fight for everyone's rights. I mean no > one is going to take us that serious now..But watch out soon..very soon! I > have spent a lot of time raising money for this or fighting not to have this > next to a school, I am ready to fight for me! OK jumping down now..sorry > about the rambling It just gets my blood flowing a little to fast when being > fat can still be the brunt of a joke. > Trisha > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Go to Expedia.com to win airfare to Vegas for you and 20 friends, > $15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's. Or win 2 roundtrip > tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. Click here for a chance win. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5295/2/_/453517/_/960641149/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 In a message dated 6/10/00 1:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, florence@... writes: << Now that le has educated us that this is not a negative term in the black community we understand and we don't have to be offended by that term on someone's behalf. >> Flo, See, now we can all be happy and play nice. In a perfect world, everyone would know, understand, and appreciate each other's culture. But, since it aint so, I have to help out every once awhile. There are plenty of things I could explain, but I might lose my " being Black membership card " . LOL le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 In a message dated 6/10/00 1:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, florence@... writes: << Now that le has educated us that this is not a negative term in the black community we understand and we don't have to be offended by that term on someone's behalf. >> Flo, See, now we can all be happy and play nice. In a perfect world, everyone would know, understand, and appreciate each other's culture. But, since it aint so, I have to help out every once awhile. There are plenty of things I could explain, but I might lose my " being Black membership card " . LOL le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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