RE: crossroads with scd/ too much meat in diet

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

I'm VERY new to SCD, and this is also something I wonder about - my

son(AND the rest of us now - pretty funny - I was a vegetarian for

about 8 years)consume A LOT of meat and eggs. SInce Cameron HATES

veggies, I mash turnip,roasted acorn squash and sometimes cauliflower

together with eggs and a small amount of honey and finely chopped

raisins and bake to look like little cookies. He snacks on these

throughout the day and then has the major proteins for meals. However,

I often wonder about the " balance " .

I also have been looking into high oxalate foods b/c I'm about 80%

sure that he's got a problem with them (rashiness on face and neck -

lots of peeing, etc.)- tonite he ate a raw baby carrot and started

scratching his rashy neck about 15 minutes later!!

Sorry this isn't very helpful... and I'm waiting to hear what others

say about this.

Lynn - Mommy to Cameron 3.8 (ASD) and Mia Jean (19 months)DAY 42 SCD -

woo hoo!

ps - Now this is interesting... I temporarily " lost it " and ate a

bunch of illegal stuff yesterday (gfcfsf muffins I found in the

freezer, and some crackers and 1/2 whole wheat pita) AND HAD possibly

the WORST stomach ache and diarrhea today... so if you do go back...

do it slowly!

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

I'm VERY new to SCD, and this is also something I wonder about - my

son(AND the rest of us now - pretty funny - I was a vegetarian for

about 8 years)consume A LOT of meat and eggs. SInce Cameron HATES

veggies, I mash turnip,roasted acorn squash and sometimes cauliflower

together with eggs and a small amount of honey and finely chopped

raisins and bake to look like little cookies. He snacks on these

throughout the day and then has the major proteins for meals. However,

I often wonder about the " balance " .

I also have been looking into high oxalate foods b/c I'm about 80%

sure that he's got a problem with them (rashiness on face and neck -

lots of peeing, etc.)- tonite he ate a raw baby carrot and started

scratching his rashy neck about 15 minutes later!!

Sorry this isn't very helpful... and I'm waiting to hear what others

say about this.

Lynn - Mommy to Cameron 3.8 (ASD) and Mia Jean (19 months)DAY 42 SCD -

woo hoo!

ps - Now this is interesting... I temporarily " lost it " and ate a

bunch of illegal stuff yesterday (gfcfsf muffins I found in the

freezer, and some crackers and 1/2 whole wheat pita) AND HAD possibly

the WORST stomach ache and diarrhea today... so if you do go back...

do it slowly!

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

I'm VERY new to SCD, and this is also something I wonder about - my

son(AND the rest of us now - pretty funny - I was a vegetarian for

about 8 years)consume A LOT of meat and eggs. SInce Cameron HATES

veggies, I mash turnip,roasted acorn squash and sometimes cauliflower

together with eggs and a small amount of honey and finely chopped

raisins and bake to look like little cookies. He snacks on these

throughout the day and then has the major proteins for meals. However,

I often wonder about the " balance " .

I also have been looking into high oxalate foods b/c I'm about 80%

sure that he's got a problem with them (rashiness on face and neck -

lots of peeing, etc.)- tonite he ate a raw baby carrot and started

scratching his rashy neck about 15 minutes later!!

Sorry this isn't very helpful... and I'm waiting to hear what others

say about this.

Lynn - Mommy to Cameron 3.8 (ASD) and Mia Jean (19 months)DAY 42 SCD -

woo hoo!

ps - Now this is interesting... I temporarily " lost it " and ate a

bunch of illegal stuff yesterday (gfcfsf muffins I found in the

freezer, and some crackers and 1/2 whole wheat pita) AND HAD possibly

the WORST stomach ache and diarrhea today... so if you do go back...

do it slowly!

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

My son is the same age as yours and is allergic to nuts and eggs and

also loves his meat. And he has oral sensory issues so will not chew mushy

things like fruit or cooked veggie he gags and eventually throw up. He will

only swallow purees or chew crunchy or chewy things. I hesitate suggesting what

I do because I have been trying to move away from it for almost a year now, but

with how much SCD has helped my son I would do anything to keep him on SCD.

Since your asking again, I'm assuming that you really want to keep your son on

SCD too. So what do I do...I make a pureed " babyfood " of veggies (about 1.5

cups) and spoon feed him as he watches TV. I figure I have to do this until he

is more willing to eat his veggies. We've been working on it for months and is

up to eating nearing a whole cooked baby carrot without throwing up before he

gets his meat. Very few of the bites are chewed mainly swallowed but we are

getting there. Anyways, I don't know how that sits with

you or maybe not giving him meat until he at least eats the littlest bit of his

veggies. Maybe a bite of carrots earns a bite of meat. I don't know what kind

of system would work the best for you both, but I believe 1 lb of meat a day is

too much.

Take care

Elijah 3.5 ASD, leaky gut, failure to thrive

a 2

Marie richy_peach@...> wrote:

Hello,

I posted earlier about my 3.5 year old autistic son eating too much

meat in his diet because he is reacting too much with eggs, tomatoes,

nuts (which is mostly found in scd diet). I was concerned about him

eating too much of the meat because as hard as I tried he still does

not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (red bright cheeks

and ears due to high oxalates).

He gets vegetables but only eats it if it is mashed and in the meat.

Does not like to eat it by itself. So far in my e-mails, I've gotten

50/50 say it's ok to eat meat everyday and no it's not healthy to eat

that much meat. (My son eats almost a pound of ground meat/day).

It's been 7 months into scd diet. Now he is getting constipated. I'm

at a crossroads -wether to continue or go back to gfcf where he did

not get constipated. I'd love to hear one last time what people's

thoughts were on eating meat on daily basis.

Marie

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

My son is the same age as yours and is allergic to nuts and eggs and

also loves his meat. And he has oral sensory issues so will not chew mushy

things like fruit or cooked veggie he gags and eventually throw up. He will

only swallow purees or chew crunchy or chewy things. I hesitate suggesting what

I do because I have been trying to move away from it for almost a year now, but

with how much SCD has helped my son I would do anything to keep him on SCD.

Since your asking again, I'm assuming that you really want to keep your son on

SCD too. So what do I do...I make a pureed " babyfood " of veggies (about 1.5

cups) and spoon feed him as he watches TV. I figure I have to do this until he

is more willing to eat his veggies. We've been working on it for months and is

up to eating nearing a whole cooked baby carrot without throwing up before he

gets his meat. Very few of the bites are chewed mainly swallowed but we are

getting there. Anyways, I don't know how that sits with

you or maybe not giving him meat until he at least eats the littlest bit of his

veggies. Maybe a bite of carrots earns a bite of meat. I don't know what kind

of system would work the best for you both, but I believe 1 lb of meat a day is

too much.

Take care

Elijah 3.5 ASD, leaky gut, failure to thrive

a 2

Marie richy_peach@...> wrote:

Hello,

I posted earlier about my 3.5 year old autistic son eating too much

meat in his diet because he is reacting too much with eggs, tomatoes,

nuts (which is mostly found in scd diet). I was concerned about him

eating too much of the meat because as hard as I tried he still does

not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (red bright cheeks

and ears due to high oxalates).

He gets vegetables but only eats it if it is mashed and in the meat.

Does not like to eat it by itself. So far in my e-mails, I've gotten

50/50 say it's ok to eat meat everyday and no it's not healthy to eat

that much meat. (My son eats almost a pound of ground meat/day).

It's been 7 months into scd diet. Now he is getting constipated. I'm

at a crossroads -wether to continue or go back to gfcf where he did

not get constipated. I'd love to hear one last time what people's

thoughts were on eating meat on daily basis.

Marie

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

My son is the same age as yours and is allergic to nuts and eggs and

also loves his meat. And he has oral sensory issues so will not chew mushy

things like fruit or cooked veggie he gags and eventually throw up. He will

only swallow purees or chew crunchy or chewy things. I hesitate suggesting what

I do because I have been trying to move away from it for almost a year now, but

with how much SCD has helped my son I would do anything to keep him on SCD.

Since your asking again, I'm assuming that you really want to keep your son on

SCD too. So what do I do...I make a pureed " babyfood " of veggies (about 1.5

cups) and spoon feed him as he watches TV. I figure I have to do this until he

is more willing to eat his veggies. We've been working on it for months and is

up to eating nearing a whole cooked baby carrot without throwing up before he

gets his meat. Very few of the bites are chewed mainly swallowed but we are

getting there. Anyways, I don't know how that sits with

you or maybe not giving him meat until he at least eats the littlest bit of his

veggies. Maybe a bite of carrots earns a bite of meat. I don't know what kind

of system would work the best for you both, but I believe 1 lb of meat a day is

too much.

Take care

Elijah 3.5 ASD, leaky gut, failure to thrive

a 2

Marie richy_peach@...> wrote:

Hello,

I posted earlier about my 3.5 year old autistic son eating too much

meat in his diet because he is reacting too much with eggs, tomatoes,

nuts (which is mostly found in scd diet). I was concerned about him

eating too much of the meat because as hard as I tried he still does

not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (red bright cheeks

and ears due to high oxalates).

He gets vegetables but only eats it if it is mashed and in the meat.

Does not like to eat it by itself. So far in my e-mails, I've gotten

50/50 say it's ok to eat meat everyday and no it's not healthy to eat

that much meat. (My son eats almost a pound of ground meat/day).

It's been 7 months into scd diet. Now he is getting constipated. I'm

at a crossroads -wether to continue or go back to gfcf where he did

not get constipated. I'd love to hear one last time what people's

thoughts were on eating meat on daily basis.

Marie

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Marie,

I do not understand enough about your son's diet and health to make any sort

of opinion. My best guess might be made with detailed information..., how strict

is the diet, hidden illegals coming from outside the home, the food list of what

he is allergic and sensitive to, how did you progress through the stages, what

is his weight and height and any additional information or observations on your

part.

You say " he does not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (bright

cheeks and ears due to high oxalates " . What fruits, and what reaction to each

fruit? If your son reacts to all fruits on SCD, he will react to all fruits on

any other diet chosen, this will not go away. Can you give more information in

regards to these fruit reactions? Many of us here have children who react to

different fruits, for different reasons, and might be able to help you some if

you post this information.

A few things here, as long as you have not eliminated allergenic foods from

your son's diet, these all can be possible symptoms. If he is allergic to many

foods, a rotation diet may be of help. Identifying additional food techniques,

such as eliminating high oxalate foods, identifying a phenol processing problem

will also need to be addressed.

How much liquid does your son consume a day, and what is he drinking? How much

plain water? Is he on digestive enzymes? Vitamin supplements? Have you thought

about taking magnesium citrate to increase water in the intestines?

Red bright cheeks and ears often signifies a food allergy. So can

constipation. Its okay if he does not want to eat vegetables by themselves, many

children are similar. If his kidney function is normal, while the amount of meat

may be higher than normal, substituting grains may not help with eating more

vegetables and balanced food overall. Have you noticed any cognitive symptoms

since being on SCD..better or worse? Substituting grains, sugars, and potatoes

(nightshade family, like tomatoes your son should stay away from) will not

address hidden allergies, sensitivities, phenol processing problems, and are

notorious fungal feeders.

AT the very least, what I tell everyone if they are to consider leaving SCD or

any special diet, know why you are leaving and why it is not working. If you

want to work through it, this list is great for it. If you want to move on,

finding out what is causing the problem is still going to benefit your son.

Our own family, we eat meat on a daily basis. My son Ben eats lower amounts,

and my son Hunter eats shameless amounts, and my own self, I lean more heavily

on the proteins than anything else. I can only eat egg yolks, but many around

here cannot do eggs at all. I do not eat tomatoes. One son is allergic to shell

fish, strawberries, all of us gluten, lactose, and the list goes on. Each one of

us has this slightly different diet that has worked for us, according to what is

going on.

I read in a previous email something about a rash on the face and neck, food

allergies, sensitivities, oxalates, lactose intolerance, etc. and etc. including

candida and autoimmune can cause this, it may even be a combination. If your son

is switching back and forth between GFCF and SCD, you know, this will undo what

SCD is trying to accomplish.

Some food proteins can remain in the body for up to 6 months.

Whatever you decide, Good Luck to you, and I wish you and your son the best of

everything in your search!

Summer

.

Marie richy_peach@...> wrote:

Hello,

I posted earlier about my 3.5 year old autistic son eating too much

meat in his diet because he is reacting too much with eggs, tomatoes,

nuts (which is mostly found in scd diet). I was concerned about him

eating too much of the meat because as hard as I tried he still does

not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (red bright cheeks

and ears due to high oxalates).

He gets vegetables but only eats it if it is mashed and in the meat.

Does not like to eat it by itself. So far in my e-mails, I've gotten

50/50 say it's ok to eat meat everyday and no it's not healthy to eat

that much meat. (My son eats almost a pound of ground meat/day).

It's been 7 months into scd diet. Now he is getting constipated. I'm

at a crossroads -wether to continue or go back to gfcf where he did

not get constipated. I'd love to hear one last time what people's

thoughts were on eating meat on daily basis.

Marie

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Marie,

I do not understand enough about your son's diet and health to make any sort

of opinion. My best guess might be made with detailed information..., how strict

is the diet, hidden illegals coming from outside the home, the food list of what

he is allergic and sensitive to, how did you progress through the stages, what

is his weight and height and any additional information or observations on your

part.

You say " he does not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (bright

cheeks and ears due to high oxalates " . What fruits, and what reaction to each

fruit? If your son reacts to all fruits on SCD, he will react to all fruits on

any other diet chosen, this will not go away. Can you give more information in

regards to these fruit reactions? Many of us here have children who react to

different fruits, for different reasons, and might be able to help you some if

you post this information.

A few things here, as long as you have not eliminated allergenic foods from

your son's diet, these all can be possible symptoms. If he is allergic to many

foods, a rotation diet may be of help. Identifying additional food techniques,

such as eliminating high oxalate foods, identifying a phenol processing problem

will also need to be addressed.

How much liquid does your son consume a day, and what is he drinking? How much

plain water? Is he on digestive enzymes? Vitamin supplements? Have you thought

about taking magnesium citrate to increase water in the intestines?

Red bright cheeks and ears often signifies a food allergy. So can

constipation. Its okay if he does not want to eat vegetables by themselves, many

children are similar. If his kidney function is normal, while the amount of meat

may be higher than normal, substituting grains may not help with eating more

vegetables and balanced food overall. Have you noticed any cognitive symptoms

since being on SCD..better or worse? Substituting grains, sugars, and potatoes

(nightshade family, like tomatoes your son should stay away from) will not

address hidden allergies, sensitivities, phenol processing problems, and are

notorious fungal feeders.

AT the very least, what I tell everyone if they are to consider leaving SCD or

any special diet, know why you are leaving and why it is not working. If you

want to work through it, this list is great for it. If you want to move on,

finding out what is causing the problem is still going to benefit your son.

Our own family, we eat meat on a daily basis. My son Ben eats lower amounts,

and my son Hunter eats shameless amounts, and my own self, I lean more heavily

on the proteins than anything else. I can only eat egg yolks, but many around

here cannot do eggs at all. I do not eat tomatoes. One son is allergic to shell

fish, strawberries, all of us gluten, lactose, and the list goes on. Each one of

us has this slightly different diet that has worked for us, according to what is

going on.

I read in a previous email something about a rash on the face and neck, food

allergies, sensitivities, oxalates, lactose intolerance, etc. and etc. including

candida and autoimmune can cause this, it may even be a combination. If your son

is switching back and forth between GFCF and SCD, you know, this will undo what

SCD is trying to accomplish.

Some food proteins can remain in the body for up to 6 months.

Whatever you decide, Good Luck to you, and I wish you and your son the best of

everything in your search!

Summer

.

Marie richy_peach@...> wrote:

Hello,

I posted earlier about my 3.5 year old autistic son eating too much

meat in his diet because he is reacting too much with eggs, tomatoes,

nuts (which is mostly found in scd diet). I was concerned about him

eating too much of the meat because as hard as I tried he still does

not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (red bright cheeks

and ears due to high oxalates).

He gets vegetables but only eats it if it is mashed and in the meat.

Does not like to eat it by itself. So far in my e-mails, I've gotten

50/50 say it's ok to eat meat everyday and no it's not healthy to eat

that much meat. (My son eats almost a pound of ground meat/day).

It's been 7 months into scd diet. Now he is getting constipated. I'm

at a crossroads -wether to continue or go back to gfcf where he did

not get constipated. I'd love to hear one last time what people's

thoughts were on eating meat on daily basis.

Marie

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Marie,

I do not understand enough about your son's diet and health to make any sort

of opinion. My best guess might be made with detailed information..., how strict

is the diet, hidden illegals coming from outside the home, the food list of what

he is allergic and sensitive to, how did you progress through the stages, what

is his weight and height and any additional information or observations on your

part.

You say " he does not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (bright

cheeks and ears due to high oxalates " . What fruits, and what reaction to each

fruit? If your son reacts to all fruits on SCD, he will react to all fruits on

any other diet chosen, this will not go away. Can you give more information in

regards to these fruit reactions? Many of us here have children who react to

different fruits, for different reasons, and might be able to help you some if

you post this information.

A few things here, as long as you have not eliminated allergenic foods from

your son's diet, these all can be possible symptoms. If he is allergic to many

foods, a rotation diet may be of help. Identifying additional food techniques,

such as eliminating high oxalate foods, identifying a phenol processing problem

will also need to be addressed.

How much liquid does your son consume a day, and what is he drinking? How much

plain water? Is he on digestive enzymes? Vitamin supplements? Have you thought

about taking magnesium citrate to increase water in the intestines?

Red bright cheeks and ears often signifies a food allergy. So can

constipation. Its okay if he does not want to eat vegetables by themselves, many

children are similar. If his kidney function is normal, while the amount of meat

may be higher than normal, substituting grains may not help with eating more

vegetables and balanced food overall. Have you noticed any cognitive symptoms

since being on SCD..better or worse? Substituting grains, sugars, and potatoes

(nightshade family, like tomatoes your son should stay away from) will not

address hidden allergies, sensitivities, phenol processing problems, and are

notorious fungal feeders.

AT the very least, what I tell everyone if they are to consider leaving SCD or

any special diet, know why you are leaving and why it is not working. If you

want to work through it, this list is great for it. If you want to move on,

finding out what is causing the problem is still going to benefit your son.

Our own family, we eat meat on a daily basis. My son Ben eats lower amounts,

and my son Hunter eats shameless amounts, and my own self, I lean more heavily

on the proteins than anything else. I can only eat egg yolks, but many around

here cannot do eggs at all. I do not eat tomatoes. One son is allergic to shell

fish, strawberries, all of us gluten, lactose, and the list goes on. Each one of

us has this slightly different diet that has worked for us, according to what is

going on.

I read in a previous email something about a rash on the face and neck, food

allergies, sensitivities, oxalates, lactose intolerance, etc. and etc. including

candida and autoimmune can cause this, it may even be a combination. If your son

is switching back and forth between GFCF and SCD, you know, this will undo what

SCD is trying to accomplish.

Some food proteins can remain in the body for up to 6 months.

Whatever you decide, Good Luck to you, and I wish you and your son the best of

everything in your search!

Summer

.

Marie richy_peach@...> wrote:

Hello,

I posted earlier about my 3.5 year old autistic son eating too much

meat in his diet because he is reacting too much with eggs, tomatoes,

nuts (which is mostly found in scd diet). I was concerned about him

eating too much of the meat because as hard as I tried he still does

not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (red bright cheeks

and ears due to high oxalates).

He gets vegetables but only eats it if it is mashed and in the meat.

Does not like to eat it by itself. So far in my e-mails, I've gotten

50/50 say it's ok to eat meat everyday and no it's not healthy to eat

that much meat. (My son eats almost a pound of ground meat/day).

It's been 7 months into scd diet. Now he is getting constipated. I'm

at a crossroads -wether to continue or go back to gfcf where he did

not get constipated. I'd love to hear one last time what people's

thoughts were on eating meat on daily basis.

Marie

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[Guest guest]

> not get constipated. I'd love to hear one last time what people's

> thoughts were on eating meat on daily basis.

>

> Marie

>

Marie, you have gotten some good advice from Summer and . If

you have checked your child's diet on fitday.com and know he doesn't

have enough carbs in proportion to protein, could you gradually add

more veggies mixed in with his meat, so slowly that he might not

notice the change? And what about juicing? As I understand it, you

can give your child some fairly advanced fuits and vegetables as

long as they are juiced. I haven't seen juicing discussed here

recently but there are a number of people who do this and have

posted recipes in the past.

My son was the opposite and would not eat meat. I just stood firm

for the long haul and kept presenting it at meals periodically and

saying that he could have what he wanted (the other parts of the

meal) after he tasted the meat. I would require just a taste, then

a bite, 2 bites, etc. Yes, it was rough at first, but after seeing

it over and over and having a small taste everytime, the meat became

less forbidding, I guess. Yet maybe my son was not the toughest nut

to crack.

I hope you can continue,

, Mom to

[Guest guest]

> not get constipated. I'd love to hear one last time what people's

> thoughts were on eating meat on daily basis.

>

> Marie

>

Marie, you have gotten some good advice from Summer and . If

you have checked your child's diet on fitday.com and know he doesn't

have enough carbs in proportion to protein, could you gradually add

more veggies mixed in with his meat, so slowly that he might not

notice the change? And what about juicing? As I understand it, you

can give your child some fairly advanced fuits and vegetables as

long as they are juiced. I haven't seen juicing discussed here

recently but there are a number of people who do this and have

posted recipes in the past.

My son was the opposite and would not eat meat. I just stood firm

for the long haul and kept presenting it at meals periodically and

saying that he could have what he wanted (the other parts of the

meal) after he tasted the meat. I would require just a taste, then

a bite, 2 bites, etc. Yes, it was rough at first, but after seeing

it over and over and having a small taste everytime, the meat became

less forbidding, I guess. Yet maybe my son was not the toughest nut

to crack.

I hope you can continue,

, Mom to

[Guest guest]

> not get constipated. I'd love to hear one last time what people's

> thoughts were on eating meat on daily basis.

>

> Marie

>

Marie, you have gotten some good advice from Summer and . If

you have checked your child's diet on fitday.com and know he doesn't

have enough carbs in proportion to protein, could you gradually add

more veggies mixed in with his meat, so slowly that he might not

notice the change? And what about juicing? As I understand it, you

can give your child some fairly advanced fuits and vegetables as

long as they are juiced. I haven't seen juicing discussed here

recently but there are a number of people who do this and have

posted recipes in the past.

My son was the opposite and would not eat meat. I just stood firm

for the long haul and kept presenting it at meals periodically and

saying that he could have what he wanted (the other parts of the

meal) after he tasted the meat. I would require just a taste, then

a bite, 2 bites, etc. Yes, it was rough at first, but after seeing

it over and over and having a small taste everytime, the meat became

less forbidding, I guess. Yet maybe my son was not the toughest nut

to crack.

I hope you can continue,

, Mom to

[Guest guest]

Dear Marie,

One thing that I am holding true and close to my heart is that this SCDIET has

had over 60 years of success in getting people with multiple allergies and

intolerance healed out of their food sensitivities....Elaine told us unless it

causes ANAPHYLAXIS that we should not fret so much........if it makes us really

sick we don't eat it....but if it makes us " just " uncomfortable " .....we too have

" Red Cheeks " and diaper rashes......and runny noses.....itchy skin....... and we

truly know that we are not " jumping " and hope that we are now eating at the

correct stage for our healing gut....We know we are not cheating...and our kids

are safe and sound from the temptations of the outside world....... we patiently

wait to heal...yet eat it all the same...rotating our diet. I hope that in time

all our sensitivities vanish...at least most of them. Good news already, my son

is already tolerating the banana...he ate half and did not get sick! He use to

get a " tickly itchy stomach " ....it is already gone! WE HAVE HOPE. I get

impatient too, wanting a cure in 27 days! I am truly sick of feeling sick every

time I eat....slowly getting better.......enzymes have helped....but not 100%.

We too eat a lot of meat......since it seems to be the only thing we can

tolerate with out getting symptoms of allergy/intolerance......we have not

died...yet are now sneaking vegetables into things by puréeing veggies and

becoming sneaky like we have been taught here on this list..... If cooked and

pureed we don't seem to get as sick! I have made " baby food " out of carrots

( " apple carrot sauce " / with a dab of honey) is what we call it in our home...and

we all eat it! (adults included, it's good!) It is worth it do eat " baby food "

as an adult or even our four year old.....(we don't let him know it is like baby

food....he just thinks it is " sauce " ! It works we don't get SICK!

Food For Thought....wanted to share...

Antoinette Entire family SCD day 27 and healing. Celiac, DH, ADHD, ADD, ASD and

multiple allergies, intolerances and food sensitivities....we would be eating

dirt if I took everything out that makes us feel sick right now.......! WE all

need more patience and have the " fanatical adherence " that Elaine urged all of

us to have, so that we too can experience the success!

Re: crossroads with scd/ too much meat in diet

Marie,

I do not understand enough about your son's diet and health to make any sort

of opinion. My best guess might be made with detailed information..., how strict

is the diet, hidden illegals coming from outside the home, the food list of what

he is allergic and sensitive to, how did you progress through the stages, what

is his weight and height and any additional information or observations on your

part.

You say " he does not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (bright

cheeks and ears due to high oxalates " .

[Guest guest]

Dear Marie,

One thing that I am holding true and close to my heart is that this SCDIET has

had over 60 years of success in getting people with multiple allergies and

intolerance healed out of their food sensitivities....Elaine told us unless it

causes ANAPHYLAXIS that we should not fret so much........if it makes us really

sick we don't eat it....but if it makes us " just " uncomfortable " .....we too have

" Red Cheeks " and diaper rashes......and runny noses.....itchy skin....... and we

truly know that we are not " jumping " and hope that we are now eating at the

correct stage for our healing gut....We know we are not cheating...and our kids

are safe and sound from the temptations of the outside world....... we patiently

wait to heal...yet eat it all the same...rotating our diet. I hope that in time

all our sensitivities vanish...at least most of them. Good news already, my son

is already tolerating the banana...he ate half and did not get sick! He use to

get a " tickly itchy stomach " ....it is already gone! WE HAVE HOPE. I get

impatient too, wanting a cure in 27 days! I am truly sick of feeling sick every

time I eat....slowly getting better.......enzymes have helped....but not 100%.

We too eat a lot of meat......since it seems to be the only thing we can

tolerate with out getting symptoms of allergy/intolerance......we have not

died...yet are now sneaking vegetables into things by puréeing veggies and

becoming sneaky like we have been taught here on this list..... If cooked and

pureed we don't seem to get as sick! I have made " baby food " out of carrots

( " apple carrot sauce " / with a dab of honey) is what we call it in our home...and

we all eat it! (adults included, it's good!) It is worth it do eat " baby food "

as an adult or even our four year old.....(we don't let him know it is like baby

food....he just thinks it is " sauce " ! It works we don't get SICK!

Food For Thought....wanted to share...

Antoinette Entire family SCD day 27 and healing. Celiac, DH, ADHD, ADD, ASD and

multiple allergies, intolerances and food sensitivities....we would be eating

dirt if I took everything out that makes us feel sick right now.......! WE all

need more patience and have the " fanatical adherence " that Elaine urged all of

us to have, so that we too can experience the success!

Re: crossroads with scd/ too much meat in diet

Marie,

I do not understand enough about your son's diet and health to make any sort

of opinion. My best guess might be made with detailed information..., how strict

is the diet, hidden illegals coming from outside the home, the food list of what

he is allergic and sensitive to, how did you progress through the stages, what

is his weight and height and any additional information or observations on your

part.

You say " he does not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (bright

cheeks and ears due to high oxalates " .

[Guest guest]

Dear Marie,

One thing that I am holding true and close to my heart is that this SCDIET has

had over 60 years of success in getting people with multiple allergies and

intolerance healed out of their food sensitivities....Elaine told us unless it

causes ANAPHYLAXIS that we should not fret so much........if it makes us really

sick we don't eat it....but if it makes us " just " uncomfortable " .....we too have

" Red Cheeks " and diaper rashes......and runny noses.....itchy skin....... and we

truly know that we are not " jumping " and hope that we are now eating at the

correct stage for our healing gut....We know we are not cheating...and our kids

are safe and sound from the temptations of the outside world....... we patiently

wait to heal...yet eat it all the same...rotating our diet. I hope that in time

all our sensitivities vanish...at least most of them. Good news already, my son

is already tolerating the banana...he ate half and did not get sick! He use to

get a " tickly itchy stomach " ....it is already gone! WE HAVE HOPE. I get

impatient too, wanting a cure in 27 days! I am truly sick of feeling sick every

time I eat....slowly getting better.......enzymes have helped....but not 100%.

We too eat a lot of meat......since it seems to be the only thing we can

tolerate with out getting symptoms of allergy/intolerance......we have not

died...yet are now sneaking vegetables into things by puréeing veggies and

becoming sneaky like we have been taught here on this list..... If cooked and

pureed we don't seem to get as sick! I have made " baby food " out of carrots

( " apple carrot sauce " / with a dab of honey) is what we call it in our home...and

we all eat it! (adults included, it's good!) It is worth it do eat " baby food "

as an adult or even our four year old.....(we don't let him know it is like baby

food....he just thinks it is " sauce " ! It works we don't get SICK!

Food For Thought....wanted to share...

Antoinette Entire family SCD day 27 and healing. Celiac, DH, ADHD, ADD, ASD and

multiple allergies, intolerances and food sensitivities....we would be eating

dirt if I took everything out that makes us feel sick right now.......! WE all

need more patience and have the " fanatical adherence " that Elaine urged all of

us to have, so that we too can experience the success!

Re: crossroads with scd/ too much meat in diet

Marie,

I do not understand enough about your son's diet and health to make any sort

of opinion. My best guess might be made with detailed information..., how strict

is the diet, hidden illegals coming from outside the home, the food list of what

he is allergic and sensitive to, how did you progress through the stages, what

is his weight and height and any additional information or observations on your

part.

You say " he does not like fruits and has definitely reacted to it (bright

cheeks and ears due to high oxalates " .

[Guest guest]

It's really hard to balance a diet without nuts dairy or eggs, we

eat only a few veggies and meats and oils, and my son eats more meat

than I think is probably healthy. Too much meat can be hard on the

liver. Since my son can't tolerate fruits, we don't have any sources

of carbs in our diet. I could tell when my body went through a

period of craving carbs about 3 weeks into the diet.

Tom was sort of proto-SCD for a month before we went totally SCD,

where we had removed all the grains from his diet but still ate

turnips, kohlrabi, and rutabaga. When we went completely SCD, we

eliminated those root veggies. You should probably be aware that

turnips are supposedly SCD illegal, but I don't know if it is

because they are a disaccharide or just too fibrous.Kohlrabi is also

illegal, but rutabaga is just for later in the diet.

We tried a diet that elminated high oxalate foods for about a month,

which was difficult, because many of the the foods my son's not

allergic to are very high in oxalates - beets, spinach, asparagus.

We didn't see that much benefit, and in order to do the SCD diet we

needed to rely on those foods. So now his diet is very high in

oxalates. Your son's peeing could be related to an oxalate problem,

but the rash you report after eating carrots is probably an allergy.

If you are certain that it is the carrots, then you should probably

avoid them.

Suzanne

Tom 3, ASD, SCD 28 days

>

> Hi Marie,

> I'm VERY new to SCD, and this is also something I wonder about - my

> son(AND the rest of us now - pretty funny - I was a vegetarian for

> about 8 years)consume A LOT of meat and eggs. SInce Cameron HATES

> veggies, I mash turnip,roasted acorn squash and sometimes

cauliflower

> together with eggs and a small amount of honey and finely chopped

> raisins and bake to look like little cookies. He snacks on these

> throughout the day and then has the major proteins for meals.

However,

> I often wonder about the " balance " .

> I also have been looking into high oxalate foods b/c I'm about 80%

> sure that he's got a problem with them (rashiness on face and

neck -

> lots of peeing, etc.)- tonite he ate a raw baby carrot and started

> scratching his rashy neck about 15 minutes later!!

> Sorry this isn't very helpful... and I'm waiting to hear what

others

> say about this.

>

> Lynn - Mommy to Cameron 3.8 (ASD) and Mia Jean (19 months)DAY 42

SCD -

> woo hoo!

>

> ps - Now this is interesting... I temporarily " lost it " and ate a

> bunch of illegal stuff yesterday (gfcfsf muffins I found in the

> freezer, and some crackers and 1/2 whole wheat pita) AND HAD

possibly

> the WORST stomach ache and diarrhea today... so if you do go

back...

> do it slowly!

>

[Guest guest]

It's really hard to balance a diet without nuts dairy or eggs, we

eat only a few veggies and meats and oils, and my son eats more meat

than I think is probably healthy. Too much meat can be hard on the

liver. Since my son can't tolerate fruits, we don't have any sources

of carbs in our diet. I could tell when my body went through a

period of craving carbs about 3 weeks into the diet.

Tom was sort of proto-SCD for a month before we went totally SCD,

where we had removed all the grains from his diet but still ate

turnips, kohlrabi, and rutabaga. When we went completely SCD, we

eliminated those root veggies. You should probably be aware that

turnips are supposedly SCD illegal, but I don't know if it is

because they are a disaccharide or just too fibrous.Kohlrabi is also

illegal, but rutabaga is just for later in the diet.

We tried a diet that elminated high oxalate foods for about a month,

which was difficult, because many of the the foods my son's not

allergic to are very high in oxalates - beets, spinach, asparagus.

We didn't see that much benefit, and in order to do the SCD diet we

needed to rely on those foods. So now his diet is very high in

oxalates. Your son's peeing could be related to an oxalate problem,

but the rash you report after eating carrots is probably an allergy.

If you are certain that it is the carrots, then you should probably

avoid them.

Suzanne

Tom 3, ASD, SCD 28 days

>

> Hi Marie,

> I'm VERY new to SCD, and this is also something I wonder about - my

> son(AND the rest of us now - pretty funny - I was a vegetarian for

> about 8 years)consume A LOT of meat and eggs. SInce Cameron HATES

> veggies, I mash turnip,roasted acorn squash and sometimes

cauliflower

> together with eggs and a small amount of honey and finely chopped

> raisins and bake to look like little cookies. He snacks on these

> throughout the day and then has the major proteins for meals.

However,

> I often wonder about the " balance " .

> I also have been looking into high oxalate foods b/c I'm about 80%

> sure that he's got a problem with them (rashiness on face and

neck -

> lots of peeing, etc.)- tonite he ate a raw baby carrot and started

> scratching his rashy neck about 15 minutes later!!

> Sorry this isn't very helpful... and I'm waiting to hear what

others

> say about this.

>

> Lynn - Mommy to Cameron 3.8 (ASD) and Mia Jean (19 months)DAY 42

SCD -

> woo hoo!

>

> ps - Now this is interesting... I temporarily " lost it " and ate a

> bunch of illegal stuff yesterday (gfcfsf muffins I found in the

> freezer, and some crackers and 1/2 whole wheat pita) AND HAD

possibly

> the WORST stomach ache and diarrhea today... so if you do go

back...

> do it slowly!

>

[Guest guest]

It's really hard to balance a diet without nuts dairy or eggs, we

eat only a few veggies and meats and oils, and my son eats more meat

than I think is probably healthy. Too much meat can be hard on the

liver. Since my son can't tolerate fruits, we don't have any sources

of carbs in our diet. I could tell when my body went through a

period of craving carbs about 3 weeks into the diet.

Tom was sort of proto-SCD for a month before we went totally SCD,

where we had removed all the grains from his diet but still ate

turnips, kohlrabi, and rutabaga. When we went completely SCD, we

eliminated those root veggies. You should probably be aware that

turnips are supposedly SCD illegal, but I don't know if it is

because they are a disaccharide or just too fibrous.Kohlrabi is also

illegal, but rutabaga is just for later in the diet.

We tried a diet that elminated high oxalate foods for about a month,

which was difficult, because many of the the foods my son's not

allergic to are very high in oxalates - beets, spinach, asparagus.

We didn't see that much benefit, and in order to do the SCD diet we

needed to rely on those foods. So now his diet is very high in

oxalates. Your son's peeing could be related to an oxalate problem,

but the rash you report after eating carrots is probably an allergy.

If you are certain that it is the carrots, then you should probably

avoid them.

Suzanne

Tom 3, ASD, SCD 28 days

>

> Hi Marie,

> I'm VERY new to SCD, and this is also something I wonder about - my

> son(AND the rest of us now - pretty funny - I was a vegetarian for

> about 8 years)consume A LOT of meat and eggs. SInce Cameron HATES

> veggies, I mash turnip,roasted acorn squash and sometimes

cauliflower

> together with eggs and a small amount of honey and finely chopped

> raisins and bake to look like little cookies. He snacks on these

> throughout the day and then has the major proteins for meals.

However,

> I often wonder about the " balance " .

> I also have been looking into high oxalate foods b/c I'm about 80%

> sure that he's got a problem with them (rashiness on face and

neck -

> lots of peeing, etc.)- tonite he ate a raw baby carrot and started

> scratching his rashy neck about 15 minutes later!!

> Sorry this isn't very helpful... and I'm waiting to hear what

others

> say about this.

>

> Lynn - Mommy to Cameron 3.8 (ASD) and Mia Jean (19 months)DAY 42

SCD -

> woo hoo!

>

> ps - Now this is interesting... I temporarily " lost it " and ate a

> bunch of illegal stuff yesterday (gfcfsf muffins I found in the

> freezer, and some crackers and 1/2 whole wheat pita) AND HAD

possibly

> the WORST stomach ache and diarrhea today... so if you do go

back...

> do it slowly!

>

[Guest guest]

,

I think you are doing the right thing! My son has a feeding

disorder, for which he has been treated in one of the world's top

feeding clinics since he was 14 months old (he's 3 now, and can eat

anything, yippee!). When they first start treating a child, they use

an approach very similar to yours. The first thing to focus on is

getting the child to consume an adequate volume of food of the right

nutrients. My son, like many, would only eat purees and a few

crunchy foods (rice cakes mainly, he was allergic to other grains).

He ate only babyfood purees, but had begun going on dangerous food

strikes and was on his way to needing a feeding tube. So, at first,

they just focused on getting him to eat purees without refusing or

gagging. They would tell him to take a bite, and when he did, he got

a moment of TV as a reinforcer. Then they'd turn off the TV and

prompt him to take another bite. Each meal took no longer than 30

minutes (more is unfair to the child). After a few months, he was

able to take 3 bites between reinforcers. After 6 months, he began

to lift the spoon from the bowl himself. After he was succesfully

eating purees, we began oral motor exercises to strengthen his

cheek, lips and tonhgue muscles so he could start moving food around

his mouth to the places where he wouldn't choke and gag on it. After

about 6 months of that, he was able to start eating small chunks of

soft food. Slowly, over a year, he progressed to eating rice noodles

and chunks of sweet potatoes and squash, and chewing meat patties. I

was able to make cookies at the time, from rice flour, and he

learned to bite off and chew them.

The hardest texture is a mixed texture - sauces with chunks. He

wasn't able to eat these without gagging until he was over 2 years

old. Now, he can eat anything at all, but he still has a strong

preference for purees and crunchy foods, and if it was up to him,

that's all he'd eat. His current diet doesn't contain any crunchy

foods and not too many purees. We still need to use the structure of

his feeding therapy in order to get him to eat, so at every meal, 5

times a day (3 meals and 2 snacks), we set a timer for 30 minutes

(20 for snacks), and bring over a bowl of toys (now we use small

toys for reinforcers rather than TV), and prompt him to " take your

bites! " As long as he has this structure, he will eat almost

anything.

One key is to make sure the meals are fun and enjoyable - you never

want to withhold food to starve a child into eating (it backfires -

kids with feeding disorders simply will starve), and you don't want

to make eating an unpleasant experience for them. That's a VERY

counterproductive strategy. So, if TV works for you, GO for it!!

Suzanne

Tom 3, ASD, SCD 28 days

>

> Hi Marie,

> My son is the same age as yours and is allergic to nuts

and eggs and also loves his meat. And he has oral sensory issues so

will not chew mushy things like fruit or cooked veggie he gags and

eventually throw up. He will only swallow purees or chew crunchy or

chewy things. I hesitate suggesting what I do because I have been

trying to move away from it for almost a year now, but with how much

SCD has helped my son I would do anything to keep him on SCD. Since

your asking again, I'm assuming that you really want to keep your

son on SCD too. So what do I do...I make a pureed " babyfood " of

veggies (about 1.5 cups) and spoon feed him as he watches TV. I

figure I have to do this until he is more willing to eat his

veggies. We've been working on it for months and is up to eating

nearing a whole cooked baby carrot without throwing up before he

gets his meat. Very few of the bites are chewed mainly swallowed

but we are getting there. Anyways, I don't know how that sits with

> you or maybe not giving him meat until he at least eats the

littlest bit of his veggies. Maybe a bite of carrots earns a bite

of meat. I don't know what kind of system would work the best for

you both, but I believe 1 lb of meat a day is too much.

>

> Take care

>

> Elijah 3.5 ASD, leaky gut, failure to thrive

> a 2

[Guest guest]

,

I think you are doing the right thing! My son has a feeding

disorder, for which he has been treated in one of the world's top

feeding clinics since he was 14 months old (he's 3 now, and can eat

anything, yippee!). When they first start treating a child, they use

an approach very similar to yours. The first thing to focus on is

getting the child to consume an adequate volume of food of the right

nutrients. My son, like many, would only eat purees and a few

crunchy foods (rice cakes mainly, he was allergic to other grains).

He ate only babyfood purees, but had begun going on dangerous food

strikes and was on his way to needing a feeding tube. So, at first,

they just focused on getting him to eat purees without refusing or

gagging. They would tell him to take a bite, and when he did, he got

a moment of TV as a reinforcer. Then they'd turn off the TV and

prompt him to take another bite. Each meal took no longer than 30

minutes (more is unfair to the child). After a few months, he was

able to take 3 bites between reinforcers. After 6 months, he began

to lift the spoon from the bowl himself. After he was succesfully

eating purees, we began oral motor exercises to strengthen his

cheek, lips and tonhgue muscles so he could start moving food around

his mouth to the places where he wouldn't choke and gag on it. After

about 6 months of that, he was able to start eating small chunks of

soft food. Slowly, over a year, he progressed to eating rice noodles

and chunks of sweet potatoes and squash, and chewing meat patties. I

was able to make cookies at the time, from rice flour, and he

learned to bite off and chew them.

The hardest texture is a mixed texture - sauces with chunks. He

wasn't able to eat these without gagging until he was over 2 years

old. Now, he can eat anything at all, but he still has a strong

preference for purees and crunchy foods, and if it was up to him,

that's all he'd eat. His current diet doesn't contain any crunchy

foods and not too many purees. We still need to use the structure of

his feeding therapy in order to get him to eat, so at every meal, 5

times a day (3 meals and 2 snacks), we set a timer for 30 minutes

(20 for snacks), and bring over a bowl of toys (now we use small

toys for reinforcers rather than TV), and prompt him to " take your

bites! " As long as he has this structure, he will eat almost

anything.

One key is to make sure the meals are fun and enjoyable - you never

want to withhold food to starve a child into eating (it backfires -

kids with feeding disorders simply will starve), and you don't want

to make eating an unpleasant experience for them. That's a VERY

counterproductive strategy. So, if TV works for you, GO for it!!

Suzanne

Tom 3, ASD, SCD 28 days

>

> Hi Marie,

> My son is the same age as yours and is allergic to nuts

and eggs and also loves his meat. And he has oral sensory issues so

will not chew mushy things like fruit or cooked veggie he gags and

eventually throw up. He will only swallow purees or chew crunchy or

chewy things. I hesitate suggesting what I do because I have been

trying to move away from it for almost a year now, but with how much

SCD has helped my son I would do anything to keep him on SCD. Since

your asking again, I'm assuming that you really want to keep your

son on SCD too. So what do I do...I make a pureed " babyfood " of

veggies (about 1.5 cups) and spoon feed him as he watches TV. I

figure I have to do this until he is more willing to eat his

veggies. We've been working on it for months and is up to eating

nearing a whole cooked baby carrot without throwing up before he

gets his meat. Very few of the bites are chewed mainly swallowed

but we are getting there. Anyways, I don't know how that sits with

> you or maybe not giving him meat until he at least eats the

littlest bit of his veggies. Maybe a bite of carrots earns a bite

of meat. I don't know what kind of system would work the best for

you both, but I believe 1 lb of meat a day is too much.

>

> Take care

>

> Elijah 3.5 ASD, leaky gut, failure to thrive

> a 2

[Guest guest]

,

I think you are doing the right thing! My son has a feeding

disorder, for which he has been treated in one of the world's top

feeding clinics since he was 14 months old (he's 3 now, and can eat

anything, yippee!). When they first start treating a child, they use

an approach very similar to yours. The first thing to focus on is

getting the child to consume an adequate volume of food of the right

nutrients. My son, like many, would only eat purees and a few

crunchy foods (rice cakes mainly, he was allergic to other grains).

He ate only babyfood purees, but had begun going on dangerous food

strikes and was on his way to needing a feeding tube. So, at first,

they just focused on getting him to eat purees without refusing or

gagging. They would tell him to take a bite, and when he did, he got

a moment of TV as a reinforcer. Then they'd turn off the TV and

prompt him to take another bite. Each meal took no longer than 30

minutes (more is unfair to the child). After a few months, he was

able to take 3 bites between reinforcers. After 6 months, he began

to lift the spoon from the bowl himself. After he was succesfully

eating purees, we began oral motor exercises to strengthen his

cheek, lips and tonhgue muscles so he could start moving food around

his mouth to the places where he wouldn't choke and gag on it. After

about 6 months of that, he was able to start eating small chunks of

soft food. Slowly, over a year, he progressed to eating rice noodles

and chunks of sweet potatoes and squash, and chewing meat patties. I

was able to make cookies at the time, from rice flour, and he

learned to bite off and chew them.

The hardest texture is a mixed texture - sauces with chunks. He

wasn't able to eat these without gagging until he was over 2 years

old. Now, he can eat anything at all, but he still has a strong

preference for purees and crunchy foods, and if it was up to him,

that's all he'd eat. His current diet doesn't contain any crunchy

foods and not too many purees. We still need to use the structure of

his feeding therapy in order to get him to eat, so at every meal, 5

times a day (3 meals and 2 snacks), we set a timer for 30 minutes

(20 for snacks), and bring over a bowl of toys (now we use small

toys for reinforcers rather than TV), and prompt him to " take your

bites! " As long as he has this structure, he will eat almost

anything.

One key is to make sure the meals are fun and enjoyable - you never

want to withhold food to starve a child into eating (it backfires -

kids with feeding disorders simply will starve), and you don't want

to make eating an unpleasant experience for them. That's a VERY

counterproductive strategy. So, if TV works for you, GO for it!!

Suzanne

Tom 3, ASD, SCD 28 days

>

> Hi Marie,

> My son is the same age as yours and is allergic to nuts

and eggs and also loves his meat. And he has oral sensory issues so

will not chew mushy things like fruit or cooked veggie he gags and

eventually throw up. He will only swallow purees or chew crunchy or

chewy things. I hesitate suggesting what I do because I have been

trying to move away from it for almost a year now, but with how much

SCD has helped my son I would do anything to keep him on SCD. Since

your asking again, I'm assuming that you really want to keep your

son on SCD too. So what do I do...I make a pureed " babyfood " of

veggies (about 1.5 cups) and spoon feed him as he watches TV. I

figure I have to do this until he is more willing to eat his

veggies. We've been working on it for months and is up to eating

nearing a whole cooked baby carrot without throwing up before he

gets his meat. Very few of the bites are chewed mainly swallowed

but we are getting there. Anyways, I don't know how that sits with

> you or maybe not giving him meat until he at least eats the

littlest bit of his veggies. Maybe a bite of carrots earns a bite

of meat. I don't know what kind of system would work the best for

you both, but I believe 1 lb of meat a day is too much.

>

> Take care

>

> Elijah 3.5 ASD, leaky gut, failure to thrive

> a 2

[Guest guest]

Thank you and ne for the detailed information. In my

heart I do not want to give up on the scd diet but was concern of

the too much meat in the diet. I will try once again to give more

veges and slowly decrease the meat.

Marie

> >

> > Hi Marie,

> > My son is the same age as yours and is allergic to

nuts

> and eggs and also loves his meat. And he has oral sensory issues

so

> will not chew mushy things like fruit or cooked veggie he gags and

> eventually throw up. He will only swallow purees or chew crunchy

or

> chewy things. I hesitate suggesting what I do because I have been

> trying to move away from it for almost a year now, but with how

much

> SCD has helped my son I would do anything to keep him on SCD.

Since

> your asking again, I'm assuming that you really want to keep your

> son on SCD too. So what do I do...I make a pureed " babyfood " of

> veggies (about 1.5 cups) and spoon feed him as he watches TV. I

> figure I have to do this until he is more willing to eat his

> veggies. We've been working on it for months and is up to eating

> nearing a whole cooked baby carrot without throwing up before he

> gets his meat. Very few of the bites are chewed mainly swallowed

> but we are getting there. Anyways, I don't know how that sits with

> > you or maybe not giving him meat until he at least eats the

> littlest bit of his veggies. Maybe a bite of carrots earns a bite

> of meat. I don't know what kind of system would work the best for

> you both, but I believe 1 lb of meat a day is too much.

> >

> > Take care

> >

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[Guest guest]

Marie,

To my knowledge an oxalate issue would not cause bright red ears/face

flushing. That would seem to me to be a phenol reaction.

Have you tried using the No Fenol enzyme from Houston Nutraceuticals?

Will he eat popsicles? Drink smoothies or juice?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Marie,

To my knowledge an oxalate issue would not cause bright red ears/face

flushing. That would seem to me to be a phenol reaction.

Have you tried using the No Fenol enzyme from Houston Nutraceuticals?

Will he eat popsicles? Drink smoothies or juice?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Marie,

To my knowledge an oxalate issue would not cause bright red ears/face

flushing. That would seem to me to be a phenol reaction.

Have you tried using the No Fenol enzyme from Houston Nutraceuticals?

Will he eat popsicles? Drink smoothies or juice?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03