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on 5/2/02 3:05 PM, sschmitz53210us at sschmitz53210us@... wrote:

> I have tried several medications from the dermatologist. All made my

> skin much worse. Dermatologist told me there was nothing left to do

> but cover it up or use lasers. I've tried gold bond, zinco, disks and

> several other suggestions on this board. Everything just makes it

> worse. I quit drinking and started drinking lots of water. This has

> not helped either. My face is always bright red. Next week I'm

> going to my regular doctor and get tested for allergies. Any

> suggestions would be much appreciated.

Have you tried a low carb, low sugar diet? With lots of greens? I am

following this type of plan now with excellent results on my skin

redness/inflammation. I did it once before with similar good results. For

me, lots of simple carbs & sugars are one of, if not, the biggest trigger...

Something for you to consider,

ps: testing for allergies is wise I think. Another thing to consider --

following a typical allergy " avoidance " diet. This also really helped me.

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on 5/2/02 3:05 PM, sschmitz53210us at sschmitz53210us@... wrote:

> I have tried several medications from the dermatologist. All made my

> skin much worse. Dermatologist told me there was nothing left to do

> but cover it up or use lasers. I've tried gold bond, zinco, disks and

> several other suggestions on this board. Everything just makes it

> worse. I quit drinking and started drinking lots of water. This has

> not helped either. My face is always bright red. Next week I'm

> going to my regular doctor and get tested for allergies. Any

> suggestions would be much appreciated.

Have you tried a low carb, low sugar diet? With lots of greens? I am

following this type of plan now with excellent results on my skin

redness/inflammation. I did it once before with similar good results. For

me, lots of simple carbs & sugars are one of, if not, the biggest trigger...

Something for you to consider,

ps: testing for allergies is wise I think. Another thing to consider --

following a typical allergy " avoidance " diet. This also really helped me.

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on 5/2/02 3:05 PM, sschmitz53210us at sschmitz53210us@... wrote:

> I have tried several medications from the dermatologist. All made my

> skin much worse. Dermatologist told me there was nothing left to do

> but cover it up or use lasers. I've tried gold bond, zinco, disks and

> several other suggestions on this board. Everything just makes it

> worse. I quit drinking and started drinking lots of water. This has

> not helped either. My face is always bright red. Next week I'm

> going to my regular doctor and get tested for allergies. Any

> suggestions would be much appreciated.

Have you tried a low carb, low sugar diet? With lots of greens? I am

following this type of plan now with excellent results on my skin

redness/inflammation. I did it once before with similar good results. For

me, lots of simple carbs & sugars are one of, if not, the biggest trigger...

Something for you to consider,

ps: testing for allergies is wise I think. Another thing to consider --

following a typical allergy " avoidance " diet. This also really helped me.

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At this point you have to stop all topicals, paradoxically, you think

you are treating something really agressively by applying a lot of

topicals and think it should improve. Unfortunately, the start of

the art of topicals today is most of them are junk. So now, you need

to start Accutane 5mg/d and let the great anti-inflammatory actions

save your skin.

> I have tried several medications from the dermatologist. All made

my

> skin much worse. Dermatologist told me there was nothing left to do

> but cover it up or use lasers. I've tried gold bond, zinco, disks

and

> several other suggestions on this board. Everything just makes it

> worse. I quit drinking and started drinking lots of water. This

has

> not helped either. My face is always bright red. Next week I'm

> going to my regular doctor and get tested for allergies. Any

> suggestions would be much appreciated.

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----- Original Message -----

> At this point you have to stop all topicals, paradoxically, you think

> you are treating something really agressively by applying a lot of

> topicals and think it should improve. Unfortunately, the start of

> the art of topicals today is most of them are junk. So now, you need

> to start Accutane 5mg/d and let the great anti-inflammatory actions

> save your skin.

I honestly don't know you can justify dispersing such advice. How can you

tell her what Rx drug she should be using after reading her email only? I

don't think a dermatologist or any other professional would prescribe

anything without examining the patient first. You don't even KNOW which

medications she tried already. Maybe she already used Accutane and it didn't

help her. IMHO, you are doing her a disservice by such advice.

Sorry, but I had to say it.

Alena

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----- Original Message -----

> At this point you have to stop all topicals, paradoxically, you think

> you are treating something really agressively by applying a lot of

> topicals and think it should improve. Unfortunately, the start of

> the art of topicals today is most of them are junk. So now, you need

> to start Accutane 5mg/d and let the great anti-inflammatory actions

> save your skin.

I honestly don't know you can justify dispersing such advice. How can you

tell her what Rx drug she should be using after reading her email only? I

don't think a dermatologist or any other professional would prescribe

anything without examining the patient first. You don't even KNOW which

medications she tried already. Maybe she already used Accutane and it didn't

help her. IMHO, you are doing her a disservice by such advice.

Sorry, but I had to say it.

Alena

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----- Original Message -----

> At this point you have to stop all topicals, paradoxically, you think

> you are treating something really agressively by applying a lot of

> topicals and think it should improve. Unfortunately, the start of

> the art of topicals today is most of them are junk. So now, you need

> to start Accutane 5mg/d and let the great anti-inflammatory actions

> save your skin.

I honestly don't know you can justify dispersing such advice. How can you

tell her what Rx drug she should be using after reading her email only? I

don't think a dermatologist or any other professional would prescribe

anything without examining the patient first. You don't even KNOW which

medications she tried already. Maybe she already used Accutane and it didn't

help her. IMHO, you are doing her a disservice by such advice.

Sorry, but I had to say it.

Alena

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Have you taken a look at your diet? Are you avoiding

the rosacea trigger foods? Keep in mind that it takes

time to recover from a flare-up. It took me three

months and that was on a very restricted diet,

acupuncture, and herbs. So, be patient and try to

relax. I strongly suggest the diet approach if you

haven't already looked at that. Also, I found relief

from flushing with baby aspirin - I take one twice a

day, BUT, ask your doctor first as there are medical

issues with taking aspirin regularly.

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> I have tried several medications from the

> dermatologist. All made my

> skin much worse. Dermatologist told me there was

> nothing left to do

> but cover it up or use lasers. I've tried gold bond,

> zinco, disks and

> several other suggestions on this board. Everything

> just makes it

> worse. I quit drinking and started drinking lots of

> water. This has

> not helped either. My face is always bright red.

> Next week I'm

> going to my regular doctor and get tested for

> allergies. Any

> suggestions would be much appreciated.

>

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I second the opinion to look at your diet and see if there is are some foods

triggering your facial redness. If you're going to actually consult an

allergist, a food diary is a good place to start because the odds are probably

higher that it's a type 2 allergy (often called food intolerances) which won't

show up as a " true " (type

1, IgE mediated) allergy. You can keep track in your food diary not only of

things that you've eaten, but also report on how your skin looks at each

mealtime and if you get an allergist who's willing to help you investigate,

they'll likely find that information very useful in identifying any delayed

reaction patterns.

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I second the opinion to look at your diet and see if there is are some foods

triggering your facial redness. If you're going to actually consult an

allergist, a food diary is a good place to start because the odds are probably

higher that it's a type 2 allergy (often called food intolerances) which won't

show up as a " true " (type

1, IgE mediated) allergy. You can keep track in your food diary not only of

things that you've eaten, but also report on how your skin looks at each

mealtime and if you get an allergist who's willing to help you investigate,

they'll likely find that information very useful in identifying any delayed

reaction patterns.

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I second the opinion to look at your diet and see if there is are some foods

triggering your facial redness. If you're going to actually consult an

allergist, a food diary is a good place to start because the odds are probably

higher that it's a type 2 allergy (often called food intolerances) which won't

show up as a " true " (type

1, IgE mediated) allergy. You can keep track in your food diary not only of

things that you've eaten, but also report on how your skin looks at each

mealtime and if you get an allergist who's willing to help you investigate,

they'll likely find that information very useful in identifying any delayed

reaction patterns.

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Thank you for all your suggestions. My skin gets hot and even redder

when I have a beer so I decided to stop. It is very dry and itchy

most of the day. Putting any kind of moisturize on it makes it

redder. Now I will start cutting back slowly on the foods I eat and

see if that helps. Thanks again for all your help. Sue

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on 5/3/02 3:06 AM, Gloria Cantens at gloria@... wrote:

> I have to agree about the ffect of sugar and other carbs (all processed

> food) as well as the benefits of greens and RAW vegetables. I tried

> steaming and had different results.

>

> Gigi

Hi Gigi,

What vegetables do you eat? And how do you prepare them? Just a big chopped

salad?? One of the most difficult things for me is expanding my repertoire

because I don't always know what to do with vegetables or how to combine

them.

I eat salads with mixed greens, cucumbers, red peppers, carrots, maybe some

beans. And lately I have been on a steamed broccolli and bok choy kick. I

have recently discovered steaming bok choy and I LOVE it!! I'm doing low-no

sugar right now and bok choy actually tastes sweet to me.

Also, I love kale (and I also love how nutritious it is!) but have limited

success in cooking it. Sometimes it's the most delicious stuff I can

imagine; other times I can barely eat it because it's bitter. I have not yet

tried simply steaming it. Do you happen to use kale?

Thanks for any tips you can send along!

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