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Suzi,

I completely agree with you... I told my husband last night that I was

beginning to find the list upsetting and trying to find a more positive

one... this list has started to make me worry and wonder if some day I was

going to look so bad I wouldn't want to leave the house... that certainly is

not a positive aspect of a mailing support list.

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group language

> Group,

>

> I've been watching the disucssion about

> " disfigurement " go back and forth.

>

> I've been a member for a while and, frankly, I wish we

> would self-monitor our language. I've apreciated this

> group as a source of good advice, support, and

> meaningful information. I think that language like

> " disfigurement, " " victim, " and " affliction " aren't at

> all useful to the time we spend here. It brings

> everyone down, collectively, and turns our sessions

> into a pity party.

>

> I've already tried to do my part, telling the group

> about something that happened to me that was far more

> life-interrupting than anything that's ever happened

> to my skin. I supposed I don't need to point out that

> there's cancer, birth defects, and accidents in our

> midst, daily. These things create victims, and can be

> afflictions.

>

> Can we keep the mood as positive as possible to help

> the folks truely struggling with depression and avoid

> pulling down those of us who aren't?

>

>

> Suzi

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Suzi,

I completely agree with you... I told my husband last night that I was

beginning to find the list upsetting and trying to find a more positive

one... this list has started to make me worry and wonder if some day I was

going to look so bad I wouldn't want to leave the house... that certainly is

not a positive aspect of a mailing support list.

a

group language

> Group,

>

> I've been watching the disucssion about

> " disfigurement " go back and forth.

>

> I've been a member for a while and, frankly, I wish we

> would self-monitor our language. I've apreciated this

> group as a source of good advice, support, and

> meaningful information. I think that language like

> " disfigurement, " " victim, " and " affliction " aren't at

> all useful to the time we spend here. It brings

> everyone down, collectively, and turns our sessions

> into a pity party.

>

> I've already tried to do my part, telling the group

> about something that happened to me that was far more

> life-interrupting than anything that's ever happened

> to my skin. I supposed I don't need to point out that

> there's cancer, birth defects, and accidents in our

> midst, daily. These things create victims, and can be

> afflictions.

>

> Can we keep the mood as positive as possible to help

> the folks truely struggling with depression and avoid

> pulling down those of us who aren't?

>

>

> Suzi

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Hi Group,

I have never weighed in on any debates here, but these messages struck a

nerve. The fact is, for many rosaceans, the disease will never progress

beyond the mild stage. So, for those of you who have mild rosacea,

please don't panic, don't obsess, and don't get depressed. Find a good

derm, identify your triggers, take supplements, drink lots of water, eat

right, and identify products that work for you and those that don't.

Avoid harsh cleansers and irritants (such as AHA's & BHA's), as these

can push mild rosacea into moderate rosacea.

Unfortunately, there are some of us in this group who have severe

rosacea, such as redness & burning, facial swelling, skin thickening,

and rhinophyma. We face " disfigurement " every day. For us, this is no

minor " affliction. " Sometimes people need to vent. Suffering is

relative.

What works for some members, does not work for others. Many members are

depressed and need to work through this with understanding and gentle

encouragement.

I thank God for people like Jen Sandwell, Dr. Nase, and Matija. Their

knowledge and compassion have given me and others hope.

With knowledge and compassion, we can beat this disease -- even those of

us with the worst cases. Advancements and improvements are being made

daily, especially in the areas of lasers. Of course, healthy lifestyle

choices can make a big difference, although this approach has its

limitations for those of us with severe vascular damage or rhinophyma.

We're all in this together. Some messages are " downers, " while others

are more positive. But I believe the " downers " are just working through

their grief and fear, as we all have a right to.

Good luck to you all,

Heidi

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Heidi, I wholeheartedly agree. I've posted my share of " downers " and

have found immense support. I feel that this is what a support group

is for. You may be a member just for the sake of info gathering but

it is unreasonable to not expect posts where people want to vent

their frustrations and sadness. I feel it's the least members are

entitled to.

To those who have triumphaned in the face of severe cea, I

applaud you, but for some of us it's not so easy to shrug off the

feelings of self-pity when we look in the mirror and see how our face

is being ravaged.

It's easy to get down in a harsh world where derms can be uncaring,

appearances matter and others make snap decisions based on how we

look. We can try to be helpful but there is only so much we can do.

What is worst of all seems to me to be criticism of one's

expression of how they are dealing (or not) with this illness.

> Hi Group,

>

> I have never weighed in on any debates here, but these messages

struck a

> nerve. The fact is, for many rosaceans, the disease will never

progress

> beyond the mild stage. So, for those of you who have mild rosacea,

> please don't panic, don't obsess, and don't get depressed. Find a

good

> derm, identify your triggers, take supplements, drink lots of

water, eat

> right, and identify products that work for you and those that don't.

> Avoid harsh cleansers and irritants (such as AHA's & BHA's), as

these

> can push mild rosacea into moderate rosacea.

>

> Unfortunately, there are some of us in this group who have severe

> rosacea, such as redness & burning, facial swelling, skin

thickening,

> and rhinophyma. We face " disfigurement " every day. For us, this

is no

> minor " affliction. " Sometimes people need to vent. Suffering is

> relative.

> What works for some members, does not work for others. Many

members are

> depressed and need to work through this with understanding and

gentle

> encouragement.

>

> I thank God for people like Jen Sandwell, Dr. Nase, and Matija.

Their

> knowledge and compassion have given me and others hope.

>

> With knowledge and compassion, we can beat this disease -- even

those of

> us with the worst cases. Advancements and improvements are being

made

> daily, especially in the areas of lasers. Of course, healthy

lifestyle

> choices can make a big difference, although this approach has its

> limitations for those of us with severe vascular damage or

rhinophyma.

>

> We're all in this together. Some messages are " downers, " while

others

> are more positive. But I believe the " downers " are just working

through

> their grief and fear, as we all have a right to.

>

> Good luck to you all,

> Heidi

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Heidi, I wholeheartedly agree. I've posted my share of " downers " and

have found immense support. I feel that this is what a support group

is for. You may be a member just for the sake of info gathering but

it is unreasonable to not expect posts where people want to vent

their frustrations and sadness. I feel it's the least members are

entitled to.

To those who have triumphaned in the face of severe cea, I

applaud you, but for some of us it's not so easy to shrug off the

feelings of self-pity when we look in the mirror and see how our face

is being ravaged.

It's easy to get down in a harsh world where derms can be uncaring,

appearances matter and others make snap decisions based on how we

look. We can try to be helpful but there is only so much we can do.

What is worst of all seems to me to be criticism of one's

expression of how they are dealing (or not) with this illness.

> Hi Group,

>

> I have never weighed in on any debates here, but these messages

struck a

> nerve. The fact is, for many rosaceans, the disease will never

progress

> beyond the mild stage. So, for those of you who have mild rosacea,

> please don't panic, don't obsess, and don't get depressed. Find a

good

> derm, identify your triggers, take supplements, drink lots of

water, eat

> right, and identify products that work for you and those that don't.

> Avoid harsh cleansers and irritants (such as AHA's & BHA's), as

these

> can push mild rosacea into moderate rosacea.

>

> Unfortunately, there are some of us in this group who have severe

> rosacea, such as redness & burning, facial swelling, skin

thickening,

> and rhinophyma. We face " disfigurement " every day. For us, this

is no

> minor " affliction. " Sometimes people need to vent. Suffering is

> relative.

> What works for some members, does not work for others. Many

members are

> depressed and need to work through this with understanding and

gentle

> encouragement.

>

> I thank God for people like Jen Sandwell, Dr. Nase, and Matija.

Their

> knowledge and compassion have given me and others hope.

>

> With knowledge and compassion, we can beat this disease -- even

those of

> us with the worst cases. Advancements and improvements are being

made

> daily, especially in the areas of lasers. Of course, healthy

lifestyle

> choices can make a big difference, although this approach has its

> limitations for those of us with severe vascular damage or

rhinophyma.

>

> We're all in this together. Some messages are " downers, " while

others

> are more positive. But I believe the " downers " are just working

through

> their grief and fear, as we all have a right to.

>

> Good luck to you all,

> Heidi

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