Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 no cant help im afraid. as a fellow protopic user ihave only had medium to good results with it. the thing is ive got to a level with protopic where im not improving anymore and i seem to suffer a little more from triggers (weeknesses, like alcohol) and i never get back at any stage to near perfect ,as i would sometimes when on the steroids. but protopic gives me a 70 pct improvement i can live with and the slight tingling has gone now when i apply . because it is quite thick to apply i reccomend that washing and soaping it off daily as a tip , then reapplying. on the shaving front now im so miffed with all of these non irritating foams/gels that i now shave with cetaphil soap bar lathered up . at least i know that i am cleaning my face asweel as shaving it , and with less irritation. soory cant be more help but works for me (ish) dave --- Adam filter@...> wrote: > Three weeks ago my derm gave me Protopic to try. I applied it on my > upper lip and lower cheeks (all areas where I had a weird rash but NO > flushing). Five days after starting I had to stop. I had a TON of > increased redness/flushing, especially after getting out of my shower. > I haven't used Protopic now in a little over two weeks. The redness > went away. Except every time I shave now, the dark, Protopic-induced > redness comes back, just as dark and painful as it did when I was > applying it. It Only happens where I applied the Protopic. (if it > matters I shave right after I shower) > You can tell EASILY by looking at my face after I shave EXACTLY > where on my cheeks I applied the Protopic. The area never used to flush > or even get red, but now every time I shave it is alot darker red/purple > than anywhere else on my face (even worse than my worst flush areas). > It still burns too, and the redness/burning will usually take about an > hour or so to subside. My first guess was that somehow there was some > protopic stuck on my razor, because it only seems to happen when I shave > (every other trigger including food/sun does not affect this area), but > the only areas that seem to be being affected are the areas where I had > applied it a few weeks ago. Anywhere that I shave now that I didn't > apply the protopic to before, isn't getting red and sore like this. I'm > sure the protopic is involved at least in some way however, because as I > said this is ONLY happening EXACTLY where I applied the protopic. Other > than this, and some weird acne, my skin hasn't looked this good in quite > a while. My overall redness on the rest of my face is down considerably > (I think Photoderm is working). > I'm not quite sure what to make of this because my flushing > everywhere else is doing so well.... Is this typical of a protopic > reaction? Taking weeks to stop occurring? It seems to me that something > caused directly by the protopic applications would have worn off over a > week ago, so I think there's something more to this... can anybody clue > me in as to what might be going on? > > Thanks > > Adam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 no cant help im afraid. as a fellow protopic user ihave only had medium to good results with it. the thing is ive got to a level with protopic where im not improving anymore and i seem to suffer a little more from triggers (weeknesses, like alcohol) and i never get back at any stage to near perfect ,as i would sometimes when on the steroids. but protopic gives me a 70 pct improvement i can live with and the slight tingling has gone now when i apply . because it is quite thick to apply i reccomend that washing and soaping it off daily as a tip , then reapplying. on the shaving front now im so miffed with all of these non irritating foams/gels that i now shave with cetaphil soap bar lathered up . at least i know that i am cleaning my face asweel as shaving it , and with less irritation. soory cant be more help but works for me (ish) dave --- Adam filter@...> wrote: > Three weeks ago my derm gave me Protopic to try. I applied it on my > upper lip and lower cheeks (all areas where I had a weird rash but NO > flushing). Five days after starting I had to stop. I had a TON of > increased redness/flushing, especially after getting out of my shower. > I haven't used Protopic now in a little over two weeks. The redness > went away. Except every time I shave now, the dark, Protopic-induced > redness comes back, just as dark and painful as it did when I was > applying it. It Only happens where I applied the Protopic. (if it > matters I shave right after I shower) > You can tell EASILY by looking at my face after I shave EXACTLY > where on my cheeks I applied the Protopic. The area never used to flush > or even get red, but now every time I shave it is alot darker red/purple > than anywhere else on my face (even worse than my worst flush areas). > It still burns too, and the redness/burning will usually take about an > hour or so to subside. My first guess was that somehow there was some > protopic stuck on my razor, because it only seems to happen when I shave > (every other trigger including food/sun does not affect this area), but > the only areas that seem to be being affected are the areas where I had > applied it a few weeks ago. Anywhere that I shave now that I didn't > apply the protopic to before, isn't getting red and sore like this. I'm > sure the protopic is involved at least in some way however, because as I > said this is ONLY happening EXACTLY where I applied the protopic. Other > than this, and some weird acne, my skin hasn't looked this good in quite > a while. My overall redness on the rest of my face is down considerably > (I think Photoderm is working). > I'm not quite sure what to make of this because my flushing > everywhere else is doing so well.... Is this typical of a protopic > reaction? Taking weeks to stop occurring? It seems to me that something > caused directly by the protopic applications would have worn off over a > week ago, so I think there's something more to this... can anybody clue > me in as to what might be going on? > > Thanks > > Adam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 no cant help im afraid. as a fellow protopic user ihave only had medium to good results with it. the thing is ive got to a level with protopic where im not improving anymore and i seem to suffer a little more from triggers (weeknesses, like alcohol) and i never get back at any stage to near perfect ,as i would sometimes when on the steroids. but protopic gives me a 70 pct improvement i can live with and the slight tingling has gone now when i apply . because it is quite thick to apply i reccomend that washing and soaping it off daily as a tip , then reapplying. on the shaving front now im so miffed with all of these non irritating foams/gels that i now shave with cetaphil soap bar lathered up . at least i know that i am cleaning my face asweel as shaving it , and with less irritation. soory cant be more help but works for me (ish) dave --- Adam filter@...> wrote: > Three weeks ago my derm gave me Protopic to try. I applied it on my > upper lip and lower cheeks (all areas where I had a weird rash but NO > flushing). Five days after starting I had to stop. I had a TON of > increased redness/flushing, especially after getting out of my shower. > I haven't used Protopic now in a little over two weeks. The redness > went away. Except every time I shave now, the dark, Protopic-induced > redness comes back, just as dark and painful as it did when I was > applying it. It Only happens where I applied the Protopic. (if it > matters I shave right after I shower) > You can tell EASILY by looking at my face after I shave EXACTLY > where on my cheeks I applied the Protopic. The area never used to flush > or even get red, but now every time I shave it is alot darker red/purple > than anywhere else on my face (even worse than my worst flush areas). > It still burns too, and the redness/burning will usually take about an > hour or so to subside. My first guess was that somehow there was some > protopic stuck on my razor, because it only seems to happen when I shave > (every other trigger including food/sun does not affect this area), but > the only areas that seem to be being affected are the areas where I had > applied it a few weeks ago. Anywhere that I shave now that I didn't > apply the protopic to before, isn't getting red and sore like this. I'm > sure the protopic is involved at least in some way however, because as I > said this is ONLY happening EXACTLY where I applied the protopic. Other > than this, and some weird acne, my skin hasn't looked this good in quite > a while. My overall redness on the rest of my face is down considerably > (I think Photoderm is working). > I'm not quite sure what to make of this because my flushing > everywhere else is doing so well.... Is this typical of a protopic > reaction? Taking weeks to stop occurring? It seems to me that something > caused directly by the protopic applications would have worn off over a > week ago, so I think there's something more to this... can anybody clue > me in as to what might be going on? > > Thanks > > Adam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 Have you tried Aveeno sensitive skin shaving gel? I have tried shaving with the cetaphil bar to poor results, but the Aveeno gel is great. > > Three weeks ago my derm gave me Protopic to try. I applied it on my > > upper lip and lower cheeks (all areas where I had a weird rash but NO > > flushing). Five days after starting I had to stop. I had a TON of > > increased redness/flushing, especially after getting out of my shower. > > I haven't used Protopic now in a little over two weeks. The redness > > went away. Except every time I shave now, the dark, Protopic- induced > > redness comes back, just as dark and painful as it did when I was > > applying it. It Only happens where I applied the Protopic. (if it > > matters I shave right after I shower) > > You can tell EASILY by looking at my face after I shave EXACTLY > > where on my cheeks I applied the Protopic. The area never used to flush > > or even get red, but now every time I shave it is alot darker red/purple > > than anywhere else on my face (even worse than my worst flush areas). > > It still burns too, and the redness/burning will usually take about an > > hour or so to subside. My first guess was that somehow there was some > > protopic stuck on my razor, because it only seems to happen when I shave > > (every other trigger including food/sun does not affect this area), but > > the only areas that seem to be being affected are the areas where I had > > applied it a few weeks ago. Anywhere that I shave now that I didn't > > apply the protopic to before, isn't getting red and sore like this. I'm > > sure the protopic is involved at least in some way however, because as I > > said this is ONLY happening EXACTLY where I applied the protopic. Other > > than this, and some weird acne, my skin hasn't looked this good in quite > > a while. My overall redness on the rest of my face is down considerably > > (I think Photoderm is working). > > I'm not quite sure what to make of this because my flushing > > everywhere else is doing so well.... Is this typical of a protopic > > reaction? Taking weeks to stop occurring? It seems to me that something > > caused directly by the protopic applications would have worn off over a > > week ago, so I think there's something more to this... can anybody clue > > me in as to what might be going on? > > > > Thanks > > > > Adam > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 where can u get it. im in the middle east and alot of these posts are from americans in the states , who have better access. anywhere online?/ cheers dave --- doubleoh7_mi6 ciz@...> wrote: > Have you tried Aveeno sensitive skin shaving gel? I have tried > shaving with the cetaphil bar to poor results, but the Aveeno gel is > great. > > > > > > > Three weeks ago my derm gave me Protopic to try. I applied it on > my > > > upper lip and lower cheeks (all areas where I had a weird rash > but NO > > > flushing). Five days after starting I had to stop. I had a TON > of > > > increased redness/flushing, especially after getting out of my > shower. > > > I haven't used Protopic now in a little over two weeks. The > redness > > > went away. Except every time I shave now, the dark, Protopic- > induced > > > redness comes back, just as dark and painful as it did when I was > > > applying it. It Only happens where I applied the Protopic. (if it > > > matters I shave right after I shower) > > > You can tell EASILY by looking at my face after I shave > EXACTLY > > > where on my cheeks I applied the Protopic. The area never used > to flush > > > or even get red, but now every time I shave it is alot darker > red/purple > > > than anywhere else on my face (even worse than my worst flush > areas). > > > It still burns too, and the redness/burning will usually take > about an > > > hour or so to subside. My first guess was that somehow there was > some > > > protopic stuck on my razor, because it only seems to happen when > I shave > > > (every other trigger including food/sun does not affect this > area), but > > > the only areas that seem to be being affected are the areas where > I had > > > applied it a few weeks ago. Anywhere that I shave now that I > didn't > > > apply the protopic to before, isn't getting red and sore like > this. I'm > > > sure the protopic is involved at least in some way however, > because as I > > > said this is ONLY happening EXACTLY where I applied the > protopic. Other > > > than this, and some weird acne, my skin hasn't looked this good > in quite > > > a while. My overall redness on the rest of my face is down > considerably > > > (I think Photoderm is working). > > > I'm not quite sure what to make of this because my flushing > > > everywhere else is doing so well.... Is this typical of a protopic > > > reaction? Taking weeks to stop occurring? It seems to me that > something > > > caused directly by the protopic applications would have worn off > over a > > > week ago, so I think there's something more to this... can > anybody clue > > > me in as to what might be going on? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 where can u get it. im in the middle east and alot of these posts are from americans in the states , who have better access. anywhere online?/ cheers dave --- doubleoh7_mi6 ciz@...> wrote: > Have you tried Aveeno sensitive skin shaving gel? I have tried > shaving with the cetaphil bar to poor results, but the Aveeno gel is > great. > > > > > > > Three weeks ago my derm gave me Protopic to try. I applied it on > my > > > upper lip and lower cheeks (all areas where I had a weird rash > but NO > > > flushing). Five days after starting I had to stop. I had a TON > of > > > increased redness/flushing, especially after getting out of my > shower. > > > I haven't used Protopic now in a little over two weeks. The > redness > > > went away. Except every time I shave now, the dark, Protopic- > induced > > > redness comes back, just as dark and painful as it did when I was > > > applying it. It Only happens where I applied the Protopic. (if it > > > matters I shave right after I shower) > > > You can tell EASILY by looking at my face after I shave > EXACTLY > > > where on my cheeks I applied the Protopic. The area never used > to flush > > > or even get red, but now every time I shave it is alot darker > red/purple > > > than anywhere else on my face (even worse than my worst flush > areas). > > > It still burns too, and the redness/burning will usually take > about an > > > hour or so to subside. My first guess was that somehow there was > some > > > protopic stuck on my razor, because it only seems to happen when > I shave > > > (every other trigger including food/sun does not affect this > area), but > > > the only areas that seem to be being affected are the areas where > I had > > > applied it a few weeks ago. Anywhere that I shave now that I > didn't > > > apply the protopic to before, isn't getting red and sore like > this. I'm > > > sure the protopic is involved at least in some way however, > because as I > > > said this is ONLY happening EXACTLY where I applied the > protopic. Other > > > than this, and some weird acne, my skin hasn't looked this good > in quite > > > a while. My overall redness on the rest of my face is down > considerably > > > (I think Photoderm is working). > > > I'm not quite sure what to make of this because my flushing > > > everywhere else is doing so well.... Is this typical of a protopic > > > reaction? Taking weeks to stop occurring? It seems to me that > something > > > caused directly by the protopic applications would have worn off > over a > > > week ago, so I think there's something more to this... can > anybody clue > > > me in as to what might be going on? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Aveeno can you buy online at: www.dermstore.com I think they also sell Cetaphil otherwise I know www.dermadoctor.com sell Cetaphil. //Kajsa --- david brannigan bustybabe_bh@...> skrev: > where can u get it. im in the middle east and alot > of these posts are > from americans in the states , who have better > access. anywhere online?/ > > cheers > dave > --- doubleoh7_mi6 ciz@...> wrote: > > Have you tried Aveeno sensitive skin shaving gel? > I have tried > > shaving with the cetaphil bar to poor results, but > the Aveeno gel is > > great. > > > > > > > > > > > > Three weeks ago my derm gave me Protopic to > try. I applied it on > > my > > > > upper lip and lower cheeks (all areas where I > had a weird rash > > but NO > > > > flushing). Five days after starting I had to > stop. I had a TON > > of > > > > increased redness/flushing, especially after > getting out of my > > shower. > > > > I haven't used Protopic now in a little over > two weeks. The > > redness > > > > went away. Except every time I shave now, the > dark, Protopic- > > induced > > > > redness comes back, just as dark and painful > as it did when I was > > > > applying it. It Only happens where I applied > the Protopic. (if it > > > > matters I shave right after I shower) > > > > You can tell EASILY by looking at my face > after I shave > > EXACTLY > > > > where on my cheeks I applied the Protopic. > The area never used > > to flush > > > > or even get red, but now every time I shave it > is alot darker > > red/purple > > > > than anywhere else on my face (even worse than > my worst flush > > areas). > > > > It still burns too, and the redness/burning > will usually take > > about an > > > > hour or so to subside. My first guess was > that somehow there was > > some > > > > protopic stuck on my razor, because it only > seems to happen when > > I shave > > > > (every other trigger including food/sun does > not affect this > > area), but > > > > the only areas that seem to be being affected > are the areas where > > I had > > > > applied it a few weeks ago. Anywhere that I > shave now that I > > didn't > > > > apply the protopic to before, isn't getting > red and sore like > > this. I'm > > > > sure the protopic is involved at least in some > way however, > > because as I > > > > said this is ONLY happening EXACTLY where I > applied the > > protopic. Other > > > > than this, and some weird acne, my skin hasn't > looked this good > > in quite > > > > a while. My overall redness on the rest of my > face is down > > considerably > > > > (I think Photoderm is working). > > > > I'm not quite sure what to make of this > because my flushing > > > > everywhere else is doing so well.... Is this > typical of a protopic > > > > reaction? Taking weeks to stop occurring? It > seems to me that > > something > > > > caused directly by the protopic applications > would have worn off > > over a > > > > week ago, so I think there's something more to > this... can > > anybody clue > > > > me in as to what might be going on? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Adam _____________________________________________________ Hitta snörapporter... från 500 olika skidorter i Europa på http://se.snow.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Aveeno can you buy online at: www.dermstore.com I think they also sell Cetaphil otherwise I know www.dermadoctor.com sell Cetaphil. //Kajsa --- david brannigan bustybabe_bh@...> skrev: > where can u get it. im in the middle east and alot > of these posts are > from americans in the states , who have better > access. anywhere online?/ > > cheers > dave > --- doubleoh7_mi6 ciz@...> wrote: > > Have you tried Aveeno sensitive skin shaving gel? > I have tried > > shaving with the cetaphil bar to poor results, but > the Aveeno gel is > > great. > > > > > > > > > > > > Three weeks ago my derm gave me Protopic to > try. I applied it on > > my > > > > upper lip and lower cheeks (all areas where I > had a weird rash > > but NO > > > > flushing). Five days after starting I had to > stop. I had a TON > > of > > > > increased redness/flushing, especially after > getting out of my > > shower. > > > > I haven't used Protopic now in a little over > two weeks. The > > redness > > > > went away. Except every time I shave now, the > dark, Protopic- > > induced > > > > redness comes back, just as dark and painful > as it did when I was > > > > applying it. It Only happens where I applied > the Protopic. (if it > > > > matters I shave right after I shower) > > > > You can tell EASILY by looking at my face > after I shave > > EXACTLY > > > > where on my cheeks I applied the Protopic. > The area never used > > to flush > > > > or even get red, but now every time I shave it > is alot darker > > red/purple > > > > than anywhere else on my face (even worse than > my worst flush > > areas). > > > > It still burns too, and the redness/burning > will usually take > > about an > > > > hour or so to subside. My first guess was > that somehow there was > > some > > > > protopic stuck on my razor, because it only > seems to happen when > > I shave > > > > (every other trigger including food/sun does > not affect this > > area), but > > > > the only areas that seem to be being affected > are the areas where > > I had > > > > applied it a few weeks ago. Anywhere that I > shave now that I > > didn't > > > > apply the protopic to before, isn't getting > red and sore like > > this. I'm > > > > sure the protopic is involved at least in some > way however, > > because as I > > > > said this is ONLY happening EXACTLY where I > applied the > > protopic. Other > > > > than this, and some weird acne, my skin hasn't > looked this good > > in quite > > > > a while. My overall redness on the rest of my > face is down > > considerably > > > > (I think Photoderm is working). > > > > I'm not quite sure what to make of this > because my flushing > > > > everywhere else is doing so well.... Is this > typical of a protopic > > > > reaction? Taking weeks to stop occurring? It > seems to me that > > something > > > > caused directly by the protopic applications > would have worn off > > over a > > > > week ago, so I think there's something more to > this... can > > anybody clue > > > > me in as to what might be going on? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Adam _____________________________________________________ Hitta snörapporter... från 500 olika skidorter i Europa på http://se.snow.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Aveeno can you buy online at: www.dermstore.com I think they also sell Cetaphil otherwise I know www.dermadoctor.com sell Cetaphil. //Kajsa --- david brannigan bustybabe_bh@...> skrev: > where can u get it. im in the middle east and alot > of these posts are > from americans in the states , who have better > access. anywhere online?/ > > cheers > dave > --- doubleoh7_mi6 ciz@...> wrote: > > Have you tried Aveeno sensitive skin shaving gel? > I have tried > > shaving with the cetaphil bar to poor results, but > the Aveeno gel is > > great. > > > > > > > > > > > > Three weeks ago my derm gave me Protopic to > try. I applied it on > > my > > > > upper lip and lower cheeks (all areas where I > had a weird rash > > but NO > > > > flushing). Five days after starting I had to > stop. I had a TON > > of > > > > increased redness/flushing, especially after > getting out of my > > shower. > > > > I haven't used Protopic now in a little over > two weeks. The > > redness > > > > went away. Except every time I shave now, the > dark, Protopic- > > induced > > > > redness comes back, just as dark and painful > as it did when I was > > > > applying it. It Only happens where I applied > the Protopic. (if it > > > > matters I shave right after I shower) > > > > You can tell EASILY by looking at my face > after I shave > > EXACTLY > > > > where on my cheeks I applied the Protopic. > The area never used > > to flush > > > > or even get red, but now every time I shave it > is alot darker > > red/purple > > > > than anywhere else on my face (even worse than > my worst flush > > areas). > > > > It still burns too, and the redness/burning > will usually take > > about an > > > > hour or so to subside. My first guess was > that somehow there was > > some > > > > protopic stuck on my razor, because it only > seems to happen when > > I shave > > > > (every other trigger including food/sun does > not affect this > > area), but > > > > the only areas that seem to be being affected > are the areas where > > I had > > > > applied it a few weeks ago. Anywhere that I > shave now that I > > didn't > > > > apply the protopic to before, isn't getting > red and sore like > > this. I'm > > > > sure the protopic is involved at least in some > way however, > > because as I > > > > said this is ONLY happening EXACTLY where I > applied the > > protopic. Other > > > > than this, and some weird acne, my skin hasn't > looked this good > > in quite > > > > a while. My overall redness on the rest of my > face is down > > considerably > > > > (I think Photoderm is working). > > > > I'm not quite sure what to make of this > because my flushing > > > > everywhere else is doing so well.... Is this > typical of a protopic > > > > reaction? Taking weeks to stop occurring? It > seems to me that > > something > > > > caused directly by the protopic applications > would have worn off > > over a > > > > week ago, so I think there's something more to > this... can > > anybody clue > > > > me in as to what might be going on? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Adam _____________________________________________________ Hitta snörapporter... från 500 olika skidorter i Europa på http://se.snow.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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