Re: Serious advice for Pre-ops

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Sharon,

I do not know what to think. I suppose he has a reason for not doing

redos. Maybe his reason is(just guessing...not saying for sure)

He feels that redos(I dont know if this is all or some) for some

reason are not what he wants to offer his services for anymore.

There could be many reasons.

*noncompliance issues

*issues of sticking with non redos because the procedure is in an

investigational/research approval process

*Trouble with insurance paying?????

I am even thinking that perhaps he has found a TON of adhesions on

redo patients do to the open procedure and that it makes it TOO risky

for him.You know drs have to listen to the insurance(their own)

company too. Even though DR R 's stats are WONDERFUL.......I am sure

not all redo docs are.....especially the ones that do an Open RNY.

Just thoughts. The best thing to do is send him a letter. Send it

private so HE gets it. Do not send it certified for him as he may

never be able to sign for it and he sure does not have time to run to

thepost office for a bunch of certified mail. DO NOT fax it or email

it either.

Ever patient is unique. Try not to be accusatory(not saying that you

would be in your letter) but try to seek answers to if this is

because of *your* personal medical history OR if this is just a

policy for all redos.

I have not read the site lately......was there a notice about redos?

> > > I know how you feel. I have been researching this since

January.

> > I have

> > > gathered all of my information - did everything I was suppose to

> > do. I have

> > > talked with him previously because I had previous WLS. I have

been

> > in

> > > contact with two other patients who had the MGB and previous

WLS

> > and are

> > > doing fine. Friday I get a phone call from Barbara in Dr. R's

> > office and

> > > she said he does do re-dos and that I could not have the

surgery.

> > I had my

> > > previous WLS on the first patient information form I submitted

back

> > in

> > > February and I have e-mailed the Dr. about this before and now

all

> > of the

> > > sudden I am not a candidate. I feel like I have been kicked in

the

> > stomach.

> > > I'm frustrated. Sharons43@e...

> > > Serious advice for Pre-ops

> > >

> > >

> > > > Folks, just because your insurance has approved you, your

doctor

> > and

> > > > family support you and you have written a patient letter made

all

> > > > your

> > > > contacts and done everything you can to get ready for surgery,

> > just

> > > > because of all that don't think you will get the surgery.

> > > >

> > > > I have been turned down by Dr. Rutledge with no explanation

except

> > > > some vague reference to my attitude. I have no idea what he

bases

> > > > this on. I waited patiently since the first of February and

was

> > > > always as tactful and friendly as could be when dealing with

any

> > of

> > > > the staff in Raleigh. The only thing I know could have caused

> > this

> > > > problem is that I was informed that Dr. Rutledge had approved

my

> > > > package but that I didn't sign my patient letter and thay my

> > doctor

> > > > hadn't sent a letter that he would support me after surgery.

I

> > told

> > > > them I would be glad to sigh the patient letter when I came

up for

> > > > clinic and that my doctor's support letter was included in the

> > letter

> > > > he wrote concerning my examination and my medical history, and

> > asked

> > > > them to read his letter again. I then asked, what next??

After a

> > > > week I was told he had decided to wait 3 months before

> > considering me.

> > > >

> > > > I was severely shocked that this had happened after working so

> > hard

> > > > and waiting so long. At first I thought he was just kidding

me and

> > > > was

> > > > making a joke, I was assured by his secretary he didn't joke.

> > Now I

> > > > am having to try to find help elsewhere. Seems strange he

would

> > > > preach

> > > > to us about " NO RNY " and all the other problems we could have

with

> > > > other procedures and then leave us with no other choice but

have

> > > > another procedure. My insurance company contacted me

wanting to

> > > > know

> > > > what was happening, I had no

> > > > answer for them. I hope this doesn't make it harder for some

of

> > you

> > > > to get approval if you have Kanawah insurance, they were a

mite

> > > > ticked off about this situation.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My suggestion, if you have problems, show no emotion at all.

If

> > you

> > > > feel like exploding, kick your dog. Always be sure to stifle

any

> > > > impatience you might have, or at least keep quiet until after

you

> > > > have

> > > > had your surgery.

> > > >

> > > > This is serious. I know you understand how it is to aim your

> > whole

> > > > life toward one event and then have someone snatch it away for

> > some

> > > > reason that is known only to them. Be very careful in your

> > dealings

> > > > with the Doctor and handle everyone with kid golves or you

could

> > be

> > > > the next one to be dissapointed. I have tried not to be too

> > bitter

> > > > in

> > > > this warning. HOw did I do??

> > > >

> > > > Be Careful, Keep any feelings to yourself unless you are

praising

> > > > everything that is going on here.

> > > >

> > > > Mitch , S.C.

> > > > 55 years old, 376 pounds. Insurance approved. Doctor

approved.

> > > > Family approved. Package approved. Turned down by Dr

Rutledge.

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

,

Thank you for your advice. I think sending him a letter is a good idea.

There was never a post about re-do's on the site - I guess that is why I am

in such shock!! You know after writing and lurking on this site for some

time, I feel as though I know Dr. R. personally and I do have a great deal

of respect and admiration for him. I'm just trying to find answers. Thanks

again, Sharon

Serious advice for Pre-ops

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Folks, just because your insurance has approved you, your

> doctor

> > > and

> > > > > family support you and you have written a patient letter made

> all

> > > > > your

> > > > > contacts and done everything you can to get ready for surgery,

> > > just

> > > > > because of all that don't think you will get the surgery.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been turned down by Dr. Rutledge with no explanation

> except

> > > > > some vague reference to my attitude. I have no idea what he

> bases

> > > > > this on. I waited patiently since the first of February and

> was

> > > > > always as tactful and friendly as could be when dealing with

> any

> > > of

> > > > > the staff in Raleigh. The only thing I know could have caused

> > > this

> > > > > problem is that I was informed that Dr. Rutledge had approved

> my

> > > > > package but that I didn't sign my patient letter and thay my

> > > doctor

> > > > > hadn't sent a letter that he would support me after surgery.

> I

> > > told

> > > > > them I would be glad to sigh the patient letter when I came

> up for

> > > > > clinic and that my doctor's support letter was included in the

> > > letter

> > > > > he wrote concerning my examination and my medical history, and

> > > asked

> > > > > them to read his letter again. I then asked, what next??

> After a

> > > > > week I was told he had decided to wait 3 months before

> > > considering me.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was severely shocked that this had happened after working so

> > > hard

> > > > > and waiting so long. At first I thought he was just kidding

> me and

> > > > > was

> > > > > making a joke, I was assured by his secretary he didn't joke.

> > > Now I

> > > > > am having to try to find help elsewhere. Seems strange he

> would

> > > > > preach

> > > > > to us about " NO RNY " and all the other problems we could have

> with

> > > > > other procedures and then leave us with no other choice but

> have

> > > > > another procedure. My insurance company contacted me

> wanting to

> > > > > know

> > > > > what was happening, I had no

> > > > > answer for them. I hope this doesn't make it harder for some

> of

> > > you

> > > > > to get approval if you have Kanawah insurance, they were a

> mite

> > > > > ticked off about this situation.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > My suggestion, if you have problems, show no emotion at all.

> If

> > > you

> > > > > feel like exploding, kick your dog. Always be sure to stifle

> any

> > > > > impatience you might have, or at least keep quiet until after

> you

> > > > > have

> > > > > had your surgery.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is serious. I know you understand how it is to aim your

> > > whole

> > > > > life toward one event and then have someone snatch it away for

> > > some

> > > > > reason that is known only to them. Be very careful in your

> > > dealings

> > > > > with the Doctor and handle everyone with kid golves or you

> could

> > > be

> > > > > the next one to be dissapointed. I have tried not to be too

> > > bitter

> > > > > in

> > > > > this warning. HOw did I do??

> > > > >

> > > > > Be Careful, Keep any feelings to yourself unless you are

> praising

> > > > > everything that is going on here.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mitch , S.C.

> > > > > 55 years old, 376 pounds. Insurance approved. Doctor

> approved.

> > > > > Family approved. Package approved. Turned down by Dr

> Rutledge.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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<< Mitch , S.C.

55 years old, 376 pounds. Insurance approved. Doctor approved.

Family approved. Package approved. Turned down by Dr Rutledge. >>

Mitch, I'm going out on a limb here. Get yourself off to a quiet spot

where it's just you and God. Tell Him everything that's happened and then

sit back quietly and let Him talk. Listen carefully. In every situation, we

have an opportunity. Ask God what your opportunity is and ask Him for the

strength and courage to see it through. Dee in MI (MGB 16Dec99)