Re: Serious advice for Pre-ops

June 3, 2000

Dear Mitch, It is my understanding that everything HAS to be sent all

together in one package and no exceptions. Dr Rutledge is very very busy and

has to sit down and read each package and evaluate it for surgery. He HAS to

have everything at once and does not have time to get things and different

times. You have to follow his instructions exactly as he says. He wasn't so

strick when I went 5 months ago, but his business has become overwhelmingly

busy and he has everything set up to be as organized as possible to save time

and money for everyone!!! I hope this helps.

June 3, 2000

Dear Mitch, It is my understanding that everything HAS to be sent all

together in one package and no exceptions. Dr Rutledge is very very busy and

has to sit down and read each package and evaluate it for surgery. He HAS to

have everything at once and does not have time to get things and different

times. You have to follow his instructions exactly as he says. He wasn't so

strick when I went 5 months ago, but his business has become overwhelmingly

busy and he has everything set up to be as organized as possible to save time

and money for everyone!!! I hope this helps.

June 3, 2000

Dear Mitch, It is my understanding that everything HAS to be sent all

together in one package and no exceptions. Dr Rutledge is very very busy and

has to sit down and read each package and evaluate it for surgery. He HAS to

have everything at once and does not have time to get things and different

times. You have to follow his instructions exactly as he says. He wasn't so

strick when I went 5 months ago, but his business has become overwhelmingly

busy and he has everything set up to be as organized as possible to save time

and money for everyone!!! I hope this helps.

June 3, 2000

In a message dated 6/3/2000 10:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mb7644@... writes:

<< Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time. All I

needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic. He

had approved my package.

Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

stuffings

out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you with

Dr.Rutledge. >>

Mitch, I'm not trying to dispute your opinion but, can you explain a little

more in detail exactly what's going on. I am in the insurance approval

process and I want to be totally informed of the good and the bad. My sister

had this surgery on the 12th of May and seems to be doing fine and I want to

have this MGB also, but I also want to be apprised of all and any problems

whether its the office, the doctor, or the hospital, so before a panic breaks

out here could you be a little more specific and give more detail!!!

Wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

BMI 42

" A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

Wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

BMI 42

" A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

June 3, 2000

In a message dated 6/3/2000 10:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mb7644@... writes:

<< Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time. All I

needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic. He

had approved my package.

Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

stuffings

out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you with

Dr.Rutledge. >>

Mitch, I'm not trying to dispute your opinion but, can you explain a little

more in detail exactly what's going on. I am in the insurance approval

process and I want to be totally informed of the good and the bad. My sister

had this surgery on the 12th of May and seems to be doing fine and I want to

have this MGB also, but I also want to be apprised of all and any problems

whether its the office, the doctor, or the hospital, so before a panic breaks

out here could you be a little more specific and give more detail!!!

Wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

BMI 42

" A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

Wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

BMI 42

" A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

June 3, 2000

In a message dated 6/3/2000 10:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mb7644@... writes:

<< Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time. All I

needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic. He

had approved my package.

Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

stuffings

out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you with

Dr.Rutledge. >>

Mitch, I'm not trying to dispute your opinion but, can you explain a little

more in detail exactly what's going on. I am in the insurance approval

process and I want to be totally informed of the good and the bad. My sister

had this surgery on the 12th of May and seems to be doing fine and I want to

have this MGB also, but I also want to be apprised of all and any problems

whether its the office, the doctor, or the hospital, so before a panic breaks

out here could you be a little more specific and give more detail!!!

Wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

BMI 42

" A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

Wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

BMI 42

" A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

June 3, 2000

Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time. All I

needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic. He

had approved my package.

Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

stuffings

out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you with

Dr.Rutledge.

In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, Deckbound@a... wrote:

> Dear Mitch, It is my understanding that everything HAS to be sent

all

> together in one package and no exceptions. Dr Rutledge is very

very

busy and

> has to sit down and read each package and evaluate it for surgery.

He HAS to

> have everything at once and does not have time to get things and

different

> times. You have to follow his instructions exactly as he says. He

wasn't so

> strick when I went 5 months ago, but his business has become

overwhelmingly

> busy and he has everything set up to be as organized as possible to

save time

> and money for everyone!!! I hope this helps.

June 3, 2000

Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time. All I

needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic. He

had approved my package.

Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

stuffings

out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you with

Dr.Rutledge.

In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, Deckbound@a... wrote:

> Dear Mitch, It is my understanding that everything HAS to be sent

all

> together in one package and no exceptions. Dr Rutledge is very

very

busy and

> has to sit down and read each package and evaluate it for surgery.

He HAS to

> have everything at once and does not have time to get things and

different

> times. You have to follow his instructions exactly as he says. He

wasn't so

> strick when I went 5 months ago, but his business has become

overwhelmingly

> busy and he has everything set up to be as organized as possible to

save time

> and money for everyone!!! I hope this helps.

June 4, 2000

Cathy, I also desperately wanted to have this procedure and followed

all instructions. I cannot tell you why this happened, it was

totally

Dr. Rutledge's decision. My advice is do not try to inject any humor

into any of your paperwork and if you don't hear from them for weeks

don't ask any questions. That is why I put the subject SERIOUS

ADVICE. It is nearly devistating to have all your thoughts and

energy

aimed at this one thing for several months and then have it all taken

away from you. Pretend you don't believe what I am saying and that

the doctor is incapable of any error.

Mitch

-- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, CMo6331945@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/3/2000 10:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> mb7644@c... writes:

>

> << Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time. All

I

> needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic. He

> had approved my package.

>

> Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

> stuffings

> out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you with

> Dr.Rutledge. >>

>

> Mitch, I'm not trying to dispute your opinion but, can you explain

a

little

> more in detail exactly what's going on. I am in the insurance

approval

> process and I want to be totally informed of the good and the bad.

My sister

> had this surgery on the 12th of May and seems to be doing fine and

I

want to

> have this MGB also, but I also want to be apprised of all and any

problems

> whether its the office, the doctor, or the hospital, so before a

panic breaks

> out here could you be a little more specific and give more detail!!!

>

> Wanting

> to be on the other side,

> Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> BMI 42

> " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

>

> Wanting

> to be on the other side,

> Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> BMI 42

> " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

June 4, 2000

Cathy, I also desperately wanted to have this procedure and followed

all instructions. I cannot tell you why this happened, it was

totally

Dr. Rutledge's decision. My advice is do not try to inject any humor

into any of your paperwork and if you don't hear from them for weeks

don't ask any questions. That is why I put the subject SERIOUS

ADVICE. It is nearly devistating to have all your thoughts and

energy

aimed at this one thing for several months and then have it all taken

away from you. Pretend you don't believe what I am saying and that

the doctor is incapable of any error.

Mitch

-- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, CMo6331945@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/3/2000 10:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> mb7644@c... writes:

>

> << Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time. All

I

> needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic. He

> had approved my package.

>

> Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

> stuffings

> out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you with

> Dr.Rutledge. >>

>

> Mitch, I'm not trying to dispute your opinion but, can you explain

a

little

> more in detail exactly what's going on. I am in the insurance

approval

> process and I want to be totally informed of the good and the bad.

My sister

> had this surgery on the 12th of May and seems to be doing fine and

I

want to

> have this MGB also, but I also want to be apprised of all and any

problems

> whether its the office, the doctor, or the hospital, so before a

panic breaks

> out here could you be a little more specific and give more detail!!!

>

> Wanting

> to be on the other side,

> Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> BMI 42

> " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

>

> Wanting

> to be on the other side,

> Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> BMI 42

> " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

June 4, 2000

--- Pretend you don't believe what I am saying and that

> the doctor is incapable of any error.

> Mitch said:

Dear Mitch,

Dr. Rutledge's reputation speaks for itself. With my experience with

him, and I can only tell you in my opinion, he has shown me nothing

less of brillance. He is the only one who does this surgery. DrR is

the only surgeon that I know who makes his email address

available,and will respond to you and makes patients call everyday

regardless of how they are doing..He has shown me thru and thru that

his main concern is " US " the patient. He has NO ROOM for error. We

are speaking of life and death situations.

I m not certain if you are aware of ? Unfortunatly we have

lost one patient, for some unknown reason her body rejected

antibiotics after a repaired leak. She had an infection and passed

away with in days.

This is a major surgery that will change you in spite of your

self. Have you expressed this in all efforts that you understand you

can die from this surgery in you patient info packet, and that you

are willing to come to terms with any or all of the possibilties of

complications and or even death??

I understand all too well of the let down on such a hyper focus as of

this " last resort to weight reduction " . I too had to postpone my

surgery.

Please remeber we are ALL on the same TEAM and I hope you can wait

patiently!

If you want to further discuss please privatly email me

Warm Wishes,

God Bless!

Lori

MBG

5-31-00

down 11 lbs (unofficailly)

Clinic Tues will set me straight.

>

> -- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, CMo6331945@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 6/3/2000 10:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > mb7644@c... writes:

> >

> > << Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time.

All

> I

> > needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic.

He

> > had approved my package.

> >

> > Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

> > stuffings

> > out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you

with

> > Dr.Rutledge. >>

> >

> > Mitch, I'm not trying to dispute your opinion but, can you explain

> a

> little

> > more in detail exactly what's going on. I am in the insurance

> approval

> > process and I want to be totally informed of the good and the

bad.

> My sister

> > had this surgery on the 12th of May and seems to be doing fine and

> I

> want to

> > have this MGB also, but I also want to be apprised of all and any

> problems

> > whether its the office, the doctor, or the hospital, so before a

> panic breaks

> > out here could you be a little more specific and give more

detail!!!

> >

> > Wanting

> > to be on the other side,

> > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > BMI 42

> > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

> >

> > Wanting

> > to be on the other side,

> > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > BMI 42

> > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

June 4, 2000

--- Pretend you don't believe what I am saying and that

> the doctor is incapable of any error.

> Mitch said:

Dear Mitch,

Dr. Rutledge's reputation speaks for itself. With my experience with

him, and I can only tell you in my opinion, he has shown me nothing

less of brillance. He is the only one who does this surgery. DrR is

the only surgeon that I know who makes his email address

available,and will respond to you and makes patients call everyday

regardless of how they are doing..He has shown me thru and thru that

his main concern is " US " the patient. He has NO ROOM for error. We

are speaking of life and death situations.

I m not certain if you are aware of ? Unfortunatly we have

lost one patient, for some unknown reason her body rejected

antibiotics after a repaired leak. She had an infection and passed

away with in days.

This is a major surgery that will change you in spite of your

self. Have you expressed this in all efforts that you understand you

can die from this surgery in you patient info packet, and that you

are willing to come to terms with any or all of the possibilties of

complications and or even death??

I understand all too well of the let down on such a hyper focus as of

this " last resort to weight reduction " . I too had to postpone my

surgery.

Please remeber we are ALL on the same TEAM and I hope you can wait

patiently!

If you want to further discuss please privatly email me

Warm Wishes,

God Bless!

Lori

MBG

5-31-00

down 11 lbs (unofficailly)

Clinic Tues will set me straight.

>

> -- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, CMo6331945@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 6/3/2000 10:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > mb7644@c... writes:

> >

> > << Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time.

All

> I

> > needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic.

He

> > had approved my package.

> >

> > Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

> > stuffings

> > out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you

with

> > Dr.Rutledge. >>

> >

> > Mitch, I'm not trying to dispute your opinion but, can you explain

> a

> little

> > more in detail exactly what's going on. I am in the insurance

> approval

> > process and I want to be totally informed of the good and the

bad.

> My sister

> > had this surgery on the 12th of May and seems to be doing fine and

> I

> want to

> > have this MGB also, but I also want to be apprised of all and any

> problems

> > whether its the office, the doctor, or the hospital, so before a

> panic breaks

> > out here could you be a little more specific and give more

detail!!!

> >

> > Wanting

> > to be on the other side,

> > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > BMI 42

> > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

> >

> > Wanting

> > to be on the other side,

> > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > BMI 42

> > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

June 4, 2000

--- Pretend you don't believe what I am saying and that

> the doctor is incapable of any error.

> Mitch said:

Dear Mitch,

Dr. Rutledge's reputation speaks for itself. With my experience with

him, and I can only tell you in my opinion, he has shown me nothing

less of brillance. He is the only one who does this surgery. DrR is

the only surgeon that I know who makes his email address

available,and will respond to you and makes patients call everyday

regardless of how they are doing..He has shown me thru and thru that

his main concern is " US " the patient. He has NO ROOM for error. We

are speaking of life and death situations.

I m not certain if you are aware of ? Unfortunatly we have

lost one patient, for some unknown reason her body rejected

antibiotics after a repaired leak. She had an infection and passed

away with in days.

This is a major surgery that will change you in spite of your

self. Have you expressed this in all efforts that you understand you

can die from this surgery in you patient info packet, and that you

are willing to come to terms with any or all of the possibilties of

complications and or even death??

I understand all too well of the let down on such a hyper focus as of

this " last resort to weight reduction " . I too had to postpone my

surgery.

Please remeber we are ALL on the same TEAM and I hope you can wait

patiently!

If you want to further discuss please privatly email me

Warm Wishes,

God Bless!

Lori

MBG

5-31-00

down 11 lbs (unofficailly)

Clinic Tues will set me straight.

>

> -- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, CMo6331945@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 6/3/2000 10:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > mb7644@c... writes:

> >

> > << Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time.

All

> I

> > needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic.

He

> > had approved my package.

> >

> > Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

> > stuffings

> > out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you

with

> > Dr.Rutledge. >>

> >

> > Mitch, I'm not trying to dispute your opinion but, can you explain

> a

> little

> > more in detail exactly what's going on. I am in the insurance

> approval

> > process and I want to be totally informed of the good and the

bad.

> My sister

> > had this surgery on the 12th of May and seems to be doing fine and

> I

> want to

> > have this MGB also, but I also want to be apprised of all and any

> problems

> > whether its the office, the doctor, or the hospital, so before a

> panic breaks

> > out here could you be a little more specific and give more

detail!!!

> >

> > Wanting

> > to be on the other side,

> > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > BMI 42

> > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

> >

> > Wanting

> > to be on the other side,

> > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > BMI 42

> > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

June 4, 2000

Thanks Lori, you have a good attitude about this. I understand what

I

have said is hard to believe, but unfortunately, it is true. I feel

that I understand the problems of obesity and risks of surgery as

well

as anyone here. I have been given no reason for being turned down or

any hope that I will be accepted in the future because Dr. Rutledge

has

said I would probably be better off if I found help elsewhere (Open

Rny perhaps???) I

still think all you pre ops should disagre with me for your own sake.

Mitch

, " Lori "

wrote:

> --- Pretend you don't believe what I am saying and that

> > the doctor is incapable of any error.

> > Mitch said:

>

> Dear Mitch,

> Dr. Rutledge's reputation speaks for itself. With my experience

with

> him, and I can only tell you in my opinion, he has shown me nothing

> less of brillance. He is the only one who does this surgery. DrR is

> the only surgeon that I know who makes his email address

> available,and will respond to you and makes patients call everyday

> regardless of how they are doing..He has shown me thru and thru

that

> his main concern is " US " the patient. He has NO ROOM for error. We

> are speaking of life and death situations.

> I m not certain if you are aware of ? Unfortunatly we have

> lost one patient, for some unknown reason her body rejected

> antibiotics after a repaired leak. She had an infection and passed

> away with in days.

> This is a major surgery that will change you in spite of your

> self. Have you expressed this in all efforts that you understand

you

> can die from this surgery in you patient info packet, and that you

> are willing to come to terms with any or all of the possibilties of

> complications and or even death??

> I understand all too well of the let down on such a hyper focus as

of

> this " last resort to weight reduction " . I too had to postpone my

> surgery.

> Please remeber we are ALL on the same TEAM and I hope you can wait

> patiently!

> If you want to further discuss please privatly email me

>

> Warm Wishes,

> God Bless!

> Lori

> MBG

> 5-31-00

> down 11 lbs (unofficailly)

> Clinic Tues will set me straight.

> >

> > -- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, CMo6331945@a... wrote:

> > > In a message dated 6/3/2000 10:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > mb7644@c... writes:

> > >

> > > << Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time.

> All

> > I

> > > needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic.

> He

> > > had approved my package.

> > >

> > > Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

> > > stuffings

> > > out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you

> with

> > > Dr.Rutledge. >>

> > >

> > > Mitch, I'm not trying to dispute your opinion but, can you

explain

> > a

> > little

> > > more in detail exactly what's going on. I am in the insurance

> > approval

> > > process and I want to be totally informed of the good and the

> bad.

> > My sister

> > > had this surgery on the 12th of May and seems to be doing fine

and

> > I

> > want to

> > > have this MGB also, but I also want to be apprised of all and

any

> > problems

> > > whether its the office, the doctor, or the hospital, so before

a

> > panic breaks

> > > out here could you be a little more specific and give more

> detail!!!

> > >

> > > Wanting

> > > to be on the other side,

> > > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > > BMI 42

> > > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

> > >

> > > Wanting

> > > to be on the other side,

> > > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > > BMI 42

> > > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

June 4, 2000

Thanks Lori, you have a good attitude about this. I understand what

I

have said is hard to believe, but unfortunately, it is true. I feel

that I understand the problems of obesity and risks of surgery as

well

as anyone here. I have been given no reason for being turned down or

any hope that I will be accepted in the future because Dr. Rutledge

has

said I would probably be better off if I found help elsewhere (Open

Rny perhaps???) I

still think all you pre ops should disagre with me for your own sake.

Mitch

, " Lori "

wrote:

> --- Pretend you don't believe what I am saying and that

> > the doctor is incapable of any error.

> > Mitch said:

>

> Dear Mitch,

> Dr. Rutledge's reputation speaks for itself. With my experience

with

> him, and I can only tell you in my opinion, he has shown me nothing

> less of brillance. He is the only one who does this surgery. DrR is

> the only surgeon that I know who makes his email address

> available,and will respond to you and makes patients call everyday

> regardless of how they are doing..He has shown me thru and thru

that

> his main concern is " US " the patient. He has NO ROOM for error. We

> are speaking of life and death situations.

> I m not certain if you are aware of ? Unfortunatly we have

> lost one patient, for some unknown reason her body rejected

> antibiotics after a repaired leak. She had an infection and passed

> away with in days.

> This is a major surgery that will change you in spite of your

> self. Have you expressed this in all efforts that you understand

you

> can die from this surgery in you patient info packet, and that you

> are willing to come to terms with any or all of the possibilties of

> complications and or even death??

> I understand all too well of the let down on such a hyper focus as

of

> this " last resort to weight reduction " . I too had to postpone my

> surgery.

> Please remeber we are ALL on the same TEAM and I hope you can wait

> patiently!

> If you want to further discuss please privatly email me

>

> Warm Wishes,

> God Bless!

> Lori

> MBG

> 5-31-00

> down 11 lbs (unofficailly)

> Clinic Tues will set me straight.

> >

> > -- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, CMo6331945@a... wrote:

> > > In a message dated 6/3/2000 10:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > mb7644@c... writes:

> > >

> > > << Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time.

> All

> > I

> > > needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic.

> He

> > > had approved my package.

> > >

> > > Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

> > > stuffings

> > > out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you

> with

> > > Dr.Rutledge. >>

> > >

> > > Mitch, I'm not trying to dispute your opinion but, can you

explain

> > a

> > little

> > > more in detail exactly what's going on. I am in the insurance

> > approval

> > > process and I want to be totally informed of the good and the

> bad.

> > My sister

> > > had this surgery on the 12th of May and seems to be doing fine

and

> > I

> > want to

> > > have this MGB also, but I also want to be apprised of all and

any

> > problems

> > > whether its the office, the doctor, or the hospital, so before

a

> > panic breaks

> > > out here could you be a little more specific and give more

> detail!!!

> > >

> > > Wanting

> > > to be on the other side,

> > > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > > BMI 42

> > > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

> > >

> > > Wanting

> > > to be on the other side,

> > > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > > BMI 42

> > > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

June 4, 2000

Thanks Lori, you have a good attitude about this. I understand what

I

have said is hard to believe, but unfortunately, it is true. I feel

that I understand the problems of obesity and risks of surgery as

well

as anyone here. I have been given no reason for being turned down or

any hope that I will be accepted in the future because Dr. Rutledge

has

said I would probably be better off if I found help elsewhere (Open

Rny perhaps???) I

still think all you pre ops should disagre with me for your own sake.

Mitch

, " Lori "

wrote:

> --- Pretend you don't believe what I am saying and that

> > the doctor is incapable of any error.

> > Mitch said:

>

> Dear Mitch,

> Dr. Rutledge's reputation speaks for itself. With my experience

with

> him, and I can only tell you in my opinion, he has shown me nothing

> less of brillance. He is the only one who does this surgery. DrR is

> the only surgeon that I know who makes his email address

> available,and will respond to you and makes patients call everyday

> regardless of how they are doing..He has shown me thru and thru

that

> his main concern is " US " the patient. He has NO ROOM for error. We

> are speaking of life and death situations.

> I m not certain if you are aware of ? Unfortunatly we have

> lost one patient, for some unknown reason her body rejected

> antibiotics after a repaired leak. She had an infection and passed

> away with in days.

> This is a major surgery that will change you in spite of your

> self. Have you expressed this in all efforts that you understand

you

> can die from this surgery in you patient info packet, and that you

> are willing to come to terms with any or all of the possibilties of

> complications and or even death??

> I understand all too well of the let down on such a hyper focus as

of

> this " last resort to weight reduction " . I too had to postpone my

> surgery.

> Please remeber we are ALL on the same TEAM and I hope you can wait

> patiently!

> If you want to further discuss please privatly email me

>

> Warm Wishes,

> God Bless!

> Lori

> MBG

> 5-31-00

> down 11 lbs (unofficailly)

> Clinic Tues will set me straight.

> >

> > -- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, CMo6331945@a... wrote:

> > > In a message dated 6/3/2000 10:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > mb7644@c... writes:

> > >

> > > << Please re-read my post. I did send everything at one time.

> All

> > I

> > > needed to do was sign my patient letter when I went to clinic.

> He

> > > had approved my package.

> > >

> > > Hint, I can be the straw man and all you folks can knock the

> > > stuffings

> > > out of me for being so wrong and it will make points for you

> with

> > > Dr.Rutledge. >>

> > >

> > > Mitch, I'm not trying to dispute your opinion but, can you

explain

> > a

> > little

> > > more in detail exactly what's going on. I am in the insurance

> > approval

> > > process and I want to be totally informed of the good and the

> bad.

> > My sister

> > > had this surgery on the 12th of May and seems to be doing fine

and

> > I

> > want to

> > > have this MGB also, but I also want to be apprised of all and

any

> > problems

> > > whether its the office, the doctor, or the hospital, so before

a

> > panic breaks

> > > out here could you be a little more specific and give more

> detail!!!

> > >

> > > Wanting

> > > to be on the other side,

> > > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > > BMI 42

> > > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

> > >

> > > Wanting

> > > to be on the other side,

> > > Cathy in Lenoir, NC

> > > Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

> > > BMI 42

> > > " A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

June 4, 2000

I know how you feel. I have been researching this since January. I have

gathered all of my information - did everything I was suppose to do. I have

talked with him previously because I had previous WLS. I have been in

contact with two other patients who had the MGB and previous WLS and are

doing fine. Friday I get a phone call from Barbara in Dr. R's office and

she said he does do re-dos and that I could not have the surgery. I had my

previous WLS on the first patient information form I submitted back in

February and I have e-mailed the Dr. about this before and now all of the

sudden I am not a candidate. I feel like I have been kicked in the stomach.

I'm frustrated. Sharons43@...

Serious advice for Pre-ops

> Folks, just because your insurance has approved you, your doctor and

> family support you and you have written a patient letter made all

> your

> contacts and done everything you can to get ready for surgery, just

> because of all that don't think you will get the surgery.

>

> I have been turned down by Dr. Rutledge with no explanation except

> some vague reference to my attitude. I have no idea what he bases

> this on. I waited patiently since the first of February and was

> always as tactful and friendly as could be when dealing with any of

> the staff in Raleigh. The only thing I know could have caused this

> problem is that I was informed that Dr. Rutledge had approved my

> package but that I didn't sign my patient letter and thay my doctor

> hadn't sent a letter that he would support me after surgery. I told

> them I would be glad to sigh the patient letter when I came up for

> clinic and that my doctor's support letter was included in the letter

> he wrote concerning my examination and my medical history, and asked

> them to read his letter again. I then asked, what next?? After a

> week I was told he had decided to wait 3 months before considering me.

>

> I was severely shocked that this had happened after working so hard

> and waiting so long. At first I thought he was just kidding me and

> was

> making a joke, I was assured by his secretary he didn't joke. Now I

> am having to try to find help elsewhere. Seems strange he would

> preach

> to us about " NO RNY " and all the other problems we could have with

> other procedures and then leave us with no other choice but have

> another procedure. My insurance company contacted me wanting to

> know

> what was happening, I had no

> answer for them. I hope this doesn't make it harder for some of you

> to get approval if you have Kanawah insurance, they were a mite

> ticked off about this situation.

>

> My suggestion, if you have problems, show no emotion at all. If you

> feel like exploding, kick your dog. Always be sure to stifle any

> impatience you might have, or at least keep quiet until after you

> have

> had your surgery.

>

> This is serious. I know you understand how it is to aim your whole

> life toward one event and then have someone snatch it away for some

> reason that is known only to them. Be very careful in your dealings

> with the Doctor and handle everyone with kid golves or you could be

> the next one to be dissapointed. I have tried not to be too bitter

> in

> this warning. HOw did I do??

>

> Be Careful, Keep any feelings to yourself unless you are praising

> everything that is going on here.

>

> Mitch , S.C.

> 55 years old, 376 pounds. Insurance approved. Doctor approved.

> Family approved. Package approved. Turned down by Dr Rutledge.

>

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June 4, 2000

mitch, i'm sure you're very frustrated, and i won't dispute anything

you have said...i have never met dr. rutledge and won't make any

judgments until i can meet him for myself. but your persistent

needling of others on this site isn't likely to convince anybody that

you DON'T have a major attitude problem. it's pretty obnoxious to

suggest that anybody who disagrees with you is doing it just to suck

up to dr. rutledge. maybe this is just your hurt and anger talking,

but if this was how you acted with people in the doctor's office,

then i'm starting to understand why they didn't want to work with

you. i don't mean that in a flaming way, but really, if i were a

surgeon doing procedures this dangerous and life-altering, i wouldn't

want to waste my time with someone who didn't seem to be taking it as

seriously as i did.

" ...I

> still think all you pre ops should disagre with me for your own

sake.

> Mitch

June 4, 2000