Re: cheating? OT privite school

[Guest guest]

$60,000!!!! I went to college and got my masters for less than

that!!! I've never talked about where I work on this group but

since we are talking about it...

I am a physical therapist at a privite school and medical clinic

called is Hope Foundation. It is in Wichita, KS. The school

is a non-profit school that does not charge anywhere close to

$60,000 per year. It's price comparable to other regular privite

schools in the Wichita area. Children that attend can receive

medical speech, OT and PT in which we bill insurance. The clinics

focus is on oral speech with the use of the Association Method.

The children are one-to-one except for group times. They go in

individual " pulls " every 30 minutes with different staff that each

focus on specific things for each individual child. They are

also " pulled " throughout the day for their therapy sessions. All

the children get speech group at least 1 time per day and individual

speech and if they are in need they are also pulled for OT and PT

services.

If you would like to know more, please feel free to contact me or go

to the website (sorry it's not prettier but I just started to design

it a few months ago.) at http://www.angelfire.com/ks3/erinishope

Please understand, that I am just a PT there. I am in no way

compensated for letting people know about the clinic, financally or

otherwise (except for the joy of working with the new children in

PT.)

mother of Caden (who will start speech there next month)

almost 3 SCD since 2-05 and Emmalynn 15 months old

>

> Suzanne, don't mind me for saying this, but $60,000, that's

extortion! For this money, you could be going to school to become an

ABA specialist! I swear it, having a diagnosis of autism basically

waves red flags in the medical/therapist community to stick it to

you.

>

> I have found one thing to be true, when friends do not

understand another friend's hard times, they are only a fair weather

friend.

>

> I am a mom of two children recovering with autism, one more

severely, one ASD, we fly alone with absolutely no help from family.

It is a pretty rotten deal, unfortunately, and one which, to this

day, I still do not understand. Our parting of ways was because we

started down the diet approach instead of tranquilizers. Even though

now I have two children who are finally able to speak, who never

could/would with other therapies, we are still doing the " wrong "

thing. Before we started having progress, we were doing the " wrong "

thing. Hunter a couple of years ago once tore out every single plant

in my garden, all my tomatoes, everything, my MIL came over and was

disgusted with me. *sigh* I owe my children all that I can do for

them, not other people who do not have an inkling about autism, or

enough compassion to offer help.

>

> They always tell you in the hospital, being a new mother,

sometimes when you need help you just have to ask for it...from

family, friends and neighbors. Why this doesn't apply to autism is

beyond me.

>

> What city do you live in? I am wondering if you have a local

ARC, they are a non-profit that serves the communities of

developmentally and physically disabled, also offering respite care

and other services.

>

> Have you thought about moving some place with more local

support? I live in WA, there are many therapy options, available

through Oregon Health Science University (OHSU) and many other

places. They will work with you on a sliding scale. When we lived in

Oregon, when I had Hunter in the public school system, they were

offering therapy for free, for those children who could not be

serviced through the schools.

>

> I am just listing ideas for you. The other idea would be to do

ABA therapy yourself, overseen by a specialist. My son Hunter a few

years ago, was doing so poorly in school. I went with him to school

every day, I was there every minute. Plus I love to read and

research. I absorbed everything the school and therapists were

doing, I learned more about it, pulled him out and started doing it

myself. I am not saying this is appopriate for you or anyone else, I

am just saying this is how I did it.

>

> Anyway, healing Tom's gut is the foremost important thing. It

will make all the therapy more effective. Is Tom taking digestive

enzymes?

>

>

> Another resource: www.freecycle.org

>

> Go there, and sign up for the page for your local community.

Freecycle is about community pulling together and keeping reusable

items out of the landfill. It is completely free. You can post items

you no longer want, or you can post want ads for items you are

looking for.

>

> The strength of your freecycle will depend on your community. I

recently received a free piano from mine, by a non-profit. But the

thing is, you can look for and post " wanteds " for things you need

and are unable to buy. I got a perfect, nearly new food processor

from my freecycle. Other scores this year...A whole matching set of

dishes, a lazy susan, all sorts of things that made our lives and

cooking SCD easier, without taxing the budget. I see blenders, food

processors, ice cream makers, food dehydrators, all kinds of things

come up.

>

>

>

> I am thinking that I eventually want to start a local SCD Autism

Support Group here in Vancouver, to help get people started SCD and

over the initial humps. As soon as I find other SCDers up here that

are interested, I am going to do it. Maybe others would be

interested in starting these in their communities? SCD is really

rough in the beginning, but things will get easier over time, as

that little gut heals. Just remember, this is possible, this is not

going to last forever, there is no race, no competition, healing

happens over time. Have faith that your son is going to heal and get

better, without attaching to the result.

>

>

> Some friends of mine recently formed a woman's group called

the " Yagga Gagga Sisterhood " . The whole idea is that we take one day

a week or every other week, and we all pick a one of our families

that really needs help, and come over, do the housework, the

gardening, the cooking, the babysitting, etc. If us parents do not

have some outlet for rest, relaxation and community, all of us get

burned out and there is little left to give to anyone. I'll let you

know how this goes when it gets into full swing.

>

>

> I really wish I could just grab you through this computer, hug

you, and put you to bed and give you a break!

>

> Summer

>

>

[Guest guest]

$60,000!!!! I went to college and got my masters for less than

that!!! I've never talked about where I work on this group but

since we are talking about it...

I am a physical therapist at a privite school and medical clinic

called is Hope Foundation. It is in Wichita, KS. The school

is a non-profit school that does not charge anywhere close to

$60,000 per year. It's price comparable to other regular privite

schools in the Wichita area. Children that attend can receive

medical speech, OT and PT in which we bill insurance. The clinics

focus is on oral speech with the use of the Association Method.

The children are one-to-one except for group times. They go in

individual " pulls " every 30 minutes with different staff that each

focus on specific things for each individual child. They are

also " pulled " throughout the day for their therapy sessions. All

the children get speech group at least 1 time per day and individual

speech and if they are in need they are also pulled for OT and PT

services.

If you would like to know more, please feel free to contact me or go

to the website (sorry it's not prettier but I just started to design

it a few months ago.) at http://www.angelfire.com/ks3/erinishope

Please understand, that I am just a PT there. I am in no way

compensated for letting people know about the clinic, financally or

otherwise (except for the joy of working with the new children in

PT.)

mother of Caden (who will start speech there next month)

almost 3 SCD since 2-05 and Emmalynn 15 months old

>

> Suzanne, don't mind me for saying this, but $60,000, that's

extortion! For this money, you could be going to school to become an

ABA specialist! I swear it, having a diagnosis of autism basically

waves red flags in the medical/therapist community to stick it to

you.

>

> I have found one thing to be true, when friends do not

understand another friend's hard times, they are only a fair weather

friend.

>

> I am a mom of two children recovering with autism, one more

severely, one ASD, we fly alone with absolutely no help from family.

It is a pretty rotten deal, unfortunately, and one which, to this

day, I still do not understand. Our parting of ways was because we

started down the diet approach instead of tranquilizers. Even though

now I have two children who are finally able to speak, who never

could/would with other therapies, we are still doing the " wrong "

thing. Before we started having progress, we were doing the " wrong "

thing. Hunter a couple of years ago once tore out every single plant

in my garden, all my tomatoes, everything, my MIL came over and was

disgusted with me. *sigh* I owe my children all that I can do for

them, not other people who do not have an inkling about autism, or

enough compassion to offer help.

>

> They always tell you in the hospital, being a new mother,

sometimes when you need help you just have to ask for it...from

family, friends and neighbors. Why this doesn't apply to autism is

beyond me.

>

> What city do you live in? I am wondering if you have a local

ARC, they are a non-profit that serves the communities of

developmentally and physically disabled, also offering respite care

and other services.

>

> Have you thought about moving some place with more local

support? I live in WA, there are many therapy options, available

through Oregon Health Science University (OHSU) and many other

places. They will work with you on a sliding scale. When we lived in

Oregon, when I had Hunter in the public school system, they were

offering therapy for free, for those children who could not be

serviced through the schools.

>

> I am just listing ideas for you. The other idea would be to do

ABA therapy yourself, overseen by a specialist. My son Hunter a few

years ago, was doing so poorly in school. I went with him to school

every day, I was there every minute. Plus I love to read and

research. I absorbed everything the school and therapists were

doing, I learned more about it, pulled him out and started doing it

myself. I am not saying this is appopriate for you or anyone else, I

am just saying this is how I did it.

>

> Anyway, healing Tom's gut is the foremost important thing. It

will make all the therapy more effective. Is Tom taking digestive

enzymes?

>

>

> Another resource: www.freecycle.org

>

> Go there, and sign up for the page for your local community.

Freecycle is about community pulling together and keeping reusable

items out of the landfill. It is completely free. You can post items

you no longer want, or you can post want ads for items you are

looking for.

>

> The strength of your freecycle will depend on your community. I

recently received a free piano from mine, by a non-profit. But the

thing is, you can look for and post " wanteds " for things you need

and are unable to buy. I got a perfect, nearly new food processor

from my freecycle. Other scores this year...A whole matching set of

dishes, a lazy susan, all sorts of things that made our lives and

cooking SCD easier, without taxing the budget. I see blenders, food

processors, ice cream makers, food dehydrators, all kinds of things

come up.

>

>

>

> I am thinking that I eventually want to start a local SCD Autism

Support Group here in Vancouver, to help get people started SCD and

over the initial humps. As soon as I find other SCDers up here that

are interested, I am going to do it. Maybe others would be

interested in starting these in their communities? SCD is really

rough in the beginning, but things will get easier over time, as

that little gut heals. Just remember, this is possible, this is not

going to last forever, there is no race, no competition, healing

happens over time. Have faith that your son is going to heal and get

better, without attaching to the result.

>

>

> Some friends of mine recently formed a woman's group called

the " Yagga Gagga Sisterhood " . The whole idea is that we take one day

a week or every other week, and we all pick a one of our families

that really needs help, and come over, do the housework, the

gardening, the cooking, the babysitting, etc. If us parents do not

have some outlet for rest, relaxation and community, all of us get

burned out and there is little left to give to anyone. I'll let you

know how this goes when it gets into full swing.

>

>

> I really wish I could just grab you through this computer, hug

you, and put you to bed and give you a break!

>

> Summer

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I think it is very pertinent for all of us parents using SCD to know who and

where the therapists are who know SCD and understand the brain-gut connection.

Thanks for posting!

Summer

carebearandrea@...> wrote:

$60,000!!!! I went to college and got my masters for less than

that!!! I've never talked about where I work on this group but

since we are talking about it...

I am a physical therapist at a privite school and medical clinic

called is Hope Foundation. It is in Wichita, KS. The school

is a non-profit school that does not charge anywhere close to

$60,000 per year. It's price comparable to other regular privite

schools in the Wichita area. Children that attend can receive

medical speech, OT and PT in which we bill insurance. The clinics

focus is on oral speech with the use of the Association Method.

The children are one-to-one except for group times. They go in

individual " pulls " every 30 minutes with different staff that each

focus on specific things for each individual child. They are

also " pulled " throughout the day for their therapy sessions. All

the children get speech group at least 1 time per day and individual

speech and if they are in need they are also pulled for OT and PT

services.

If you would like to know more, please feel free to contact me or go

to the website (sorry it's not prettier but I just started to design

it a few months ago.) at http://www.angelfire.com/ks3/erinishope

Please understand, that I am just a PT there. I am in no way

compensated for letting people know about the clinic, financally or

otherwise (except for the joy of working with the new children in

PT.)

mother of Caden (who will start speech there next month)

almost 3 SCD since 2-05 and Emmalynn 15 months old

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[Guest guest]

, your school sounds wonderful. Where does its funding come

from? Somebody has to be paying for the obviously high level of

care. I doubt the therapists are working for free.

Suzanne

>

> $60,000!!!! I went to college and got my masters for less than

> that!!! I've never talked about where I work on this group but

> since we are talking about it...

>

> I am a physical therapist at a privite school and medical clinic

> called is Hope Foundation. It is in Wichita, KS. The school

> is a non-profit school that does not charge anywhere close to

> $60,000 per year. It's price comparable to other regular privite

> schools in the Wichita area. Children that attend can receive

> medical speech, OT and PT in which we bill insurance. The clinics

> focus is on oral speech with the use of the Association Method.

[Guest guest]

, your school sounds wonderful. Where does its funding come

from? Somebody has to be paying for the obviously high level of

care. I doubt the therapists are working for free.

Suzanne

>

> $60,000!!!! I went to college and got my masters for less than

> that!!! I've never talked about where I work on this group but

> since we are talking about it...

>

> I am a physical therapist at a privite school and medical clinic

> called is Hope Foundation. It is in Wichita, KS. The school

> is a non-profit school that does not charge anywhere close to

> $60,000 per year. It's price comparable to other regular privite

> schools in the Wichita area. Children that attend can receive

> medical speech, OT and PT in which we bill insurance. The clinics

> focus is on oral speech with the use of the Association Method.

[Guest guest]

Suzanne, sorry, I didn't see this earlier.

No we're not working for free. :-) For the therapy services,

insurance is billed (PT, OT and Speech). And the parents pay for

the education protion of the services. Many parents also have

others that assist them in paying for services. We also do one big

fund raiser every year that helps off set the costs.

I do not know the exact amount that our kids pay to attend the

school. Everyone pays a little different based on their individual

needs (theapy, and which setting they will do best in, Individual

one-to-one pulls (where all the kids start) VS a classroom setting

for the kids that are at a higher level in the association method

and can do well in that setting.)

In the one-to-one pulls, in which the kids rotate every 30 minutes

to work with a different para or therapist, is going to cost more

than the classroom setting where there are 2 teachers and 5-6

students. Also, some insurances pay higher than others for therapy

services so therapy money can sometimes help with the educational

protion.

I'm sure there is more to it than that but that is about all I know

about the financial part of it. I always tell our billinglady that

I am glad I do not have her job because I love people but I HATE

peole and money together.

I hope this helps. If you have anymore questions, let me know and I

will try to help. If you have more specific questions and would

like a phone meeting with the owner or her asstiant let me know and

I can help set that up.

We have kids from all over the country right now (Florida, 3 from

Louisanna, Oklahoma are the ones that come to mind)

andrea mother and Peds Physcial therapist

> >

> > $60,000!!!! I went to college and got my masters for less than

> > that!!! I've never talked about where I work on this group but

> > since we are talking about it...

> >

> > I am a physical therapist at a privite school and medical clinic

> > called is Hope Foundation. It is in Wichita, KS. The

school

> > is a non-profit school that does not charge anywhere close to

> > $60,000 per year. It's price comparable to other regular privite

> > schools in the Wichita area. Children that attend can receive

> > medical speech, OT and PT in which we bill insurance. The

clinics

> > focus is on oral speech with the use of the Association Method.

>