Re: cea and Thyroid Problems

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> In a message dated 5/19/02 3:07:29 AM, emarjency@s... writes:

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> <<

> Both hyper and hypothyroidism manifest as diseases that are

> autoimmune in origin (Graves Disease, and Hashimoto's thyroiditis,

> respectively), both of which I believe are associated with rosacea.

> Otherwise, there's no relation between thyroid disease per se and

> rosacea that I'm aware of. Hypothyroidism (from any cause) usually

> causes the skin (all over the body) to become drier than normal.

> you said autoimmune above

> and in a previous post

> you said

> they had nothing to do with autoimmune ...

Stacey, if I contradicted myself, please help me correct it for the

group's archives, and for my own clarification. What is the # of the

previous post where I said rosacea was not associated with thyroid

autoimmune conditions?

The above is correct to the best of my knowledge. Instead of

whispering autoimmune, try whispering immune-mediated.

Thanks.

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> Marjorie

> >

>

> --

> >>

>

> now,

> i'm not trying to be a pain

> (really, i'm not trying)

> if i'm succeeding, please accept

> sincere

> apologies ....

>

>

> i'm trying to think:

> my sister had some

> graves thang

> at about the same time as

> rosacea

> reared it's red (but not ugly) face

>

> i have had a thyroid thang for more than two decades

> but

> but

> but

> about six years ago

> some new problems

> words like

> hashimoto's

> were tossed around

> and

> hmmmmm

> it seems that my first flirtation with

> what i now know to be my own personal manifestation of rosacea

> occurred at about that time

> or

> shortly

> thereafter ...

>

> hmm

> hmm

> hmm

>

> just to be cheeky

> i'm going to say it one more time:

>

> autoimmune

>

> but i said it very quietly.

>

> stacey

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> I think the connection here would be flushing. Thyroid problems

mess with

> your body temperature. The overheating and rapid heartbeat can lead

to flushing.

I wouldn't think so, . If so, then *any* overactive thyroid,

such as those caused by tumor or ingestion of exogenous thyroxin,

would be associated with rosacea, and that's not true to my

knowledge -- only thyroid conditions with an autoimmune origin (I

don't even recall if it's only Grave's (hyperactive) or Hashimoto's

(hypoactive), or both).

And if so, other conditions that increase body temperature and heart

rate (such as chronic amphetamine use, or subacute bacterial

endocarditis) would be expected to be associated with rosacea, and

I've not seen any evidence to support that.

Finally, other autoimmune conditions are associated with rosacea.

Remember too that not all rosaceans flush, or flush only minimally.

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

[Guest guest]

> I think the connection here would be flushing. Thyroid problems

mess with

> your body temperature. The overheating and rapid heartbeat can lead

to flushing.

I wouldn't think so, . If so, then *any* overactive thyroid,

such as those caused by tumor or ingestion of exogenous thyroxin,

would be associated with rosacea, and that's not true to my

knowledge -- only thyroid conditions with an autoimmune origin (I

don't even recall if it's only Grave's (hyperactive) or Hashimoto's

(hypoactive), or both).

And if so, other conditions that increase body temperature and heart

rate (such as chronic amphetamine use, or subacute bacterial

endocarditis) would be expected to be associated with rosacea, and

I've not seen any evidence to support that.

Finally, other autoimmune conditions are associated with rosacea.

Remember too that not all rosaceans flush, or flush only minimally.

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD