Guest guest Posted May 29, 2002 Report Share Posted May 29, 2002 You may hate to hear this, but you have to experiment! Groan . . . I went through this process over the last few months, trying to find something that would work. For me (which may be meaningless for you!), I had the best luck with the zinc oxide and titanium dioxide ones, sometimes referred to as non-chemical sunscreens. There are a load of them out there. Many make you look as white as a ghost. Not a good look on me. I settled on Clinique Super City Block 25. Its a little tinted, but doesn't look like make up. Nor does it feel sticky (my main complaint with many products). Does anyone know about a sunscreen ingredient called Ensulizole? I saw that as the first listed ingredient in several (chemical) sunscreens, but could find no information about it. Good luck. Claire (in Seattle) P.S. I was trying to avoid the ones that have an ingredient called Octyl Methe--something or other. I think that is what irritated me in the past. Avoid any " gels " . Gel = alcohol > I'm trying to figure out, by looking at labels, which ingredients > may be helpful and harmful in sunscreens and makeup. (I rarely > wear makeup, but now and then I need to.) > > Every sunscreen irritates and stings, some worse than others. > > I understand that dimethicone and cyclomethicone in > sunscreens are very helpful in preventing irritation. PABA and > alcohol are to be avoided. What other ingredients should be > avoided? > > Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Share Posted May 31, 2002 Claire, ensulizole (phenylbenzimidazole sulphonic acid) is a relatively new sunscreen (not sunblock) that is often used in combination with ethylhexyl methoxycinnamate and/or isoamyl p- methoxycinnamate. I'm not sure why its concentration is limited in the US to 4%, whereas in other countries it can be used up to 8%. It is water soluable, so feels less oily. It filters only UVB, not UVA rays. Below is a study that lists it as the least likely sunscreen of those tested to cause an allergic reaction -- but that's for people with normal skin, not those with conditions that predispose to skin sensitivity, where we are warned that sensitivies were found among these products as well: Br J Dermatol 2001 Oct;145(4):597-601 Abstract quote Background Despite the enormous increase in sunscreen use, allergic contact (AC) and photoallergic (PA) reactions to ultraviolet (UV) filters are considered rare. Objectives To analyse the data from 2715 patients who underwent photopatch testing at St 's Institute of Dermatology during the period 1983- 98. Methods A retrospective analysis of all positive photopatch test episodes was undertaken with the results retrieved from the environmental dermatology database and further verified with the original archived patch test documentation for each individual patient. Results In 111 patients with positive reactions (4.1%), there were 155 AC or PA reactions to allergens in the photopatch test series. Eighty PA reactions were observed in 62 (2.3%) patients (32 men and 30 women, age range 28-75 years), with UV filters accounting for 52 positive reactions (65%), drugs 16 (20%), musk ambrette 11 (14%) and the antiseptic trichlorocarbanilide one (1%). The most common UV filter photoallergen was benzophenone-3 with 14 positive results, followed by benzophenone-10 (n = 9), isopropyl dibenzoylmethane (n = 6), p- aminobenzoic acid (PABA) (n = 5), octyl dimethyl PABA (n = 5), butyl methoxydibenzoylmethane (n = 4), isoamyl methoxycinnamate (n = 2), ethyl methoxycinnamate (n = 2), octyl methoxycinnamate (n = 2), amyl dimethyl PABA (n = 2) and phenylbenzimidazole sulphonic acid (n = 1). A similar number of AC reactions to UV filters was detected in this study. Thus 49 patients (1.8%) had a total of 75 reactions: 51 due to UV filters and 24 as a result of exposure to fragrances and therapeutic agents. Benzophenone-10 accounted for 13 AC reactions and benzophenone-3 for eight reactions. Twenty-two patients had a PA reaction alone, whereas 19 patients had chronic actinic dermatitis and 15 patients polymorphic light eruption (PLE) in addition. Thus, 34 of the 62 patients (55%) had a preceding underlying photodermatosis. Conclusions These results show a low yield of positive photopatch tests. Thus, despite the large increase in the use of UV filters over the last decade, the development of PA reactions remains rare. Furthermore, most of the common UV filter photoallergens identified in this study, including PABA, amyl dimethyl PABA and benzophenone-10, are now rarely used in sunscreen manufacture, while isopropyl dibenzoylmethane was voluntarily removed from the market in 1993. Currently, benzophenone-3 is the commonest contact photoallergen still in widespread use. In contrast, the UVB filter octyl methoxycinnamate, used in a number of sunscreens, produced only two positive PA reactions in 12 years of testing. Nevertheless, although these reactions are extremely rare, patients with photodermatoses such as PLE and chronic actinic dermatitis do represent a group of patients at increased risk of developing photoallergy. Further photopatch test series should be regularly reviewed and updated, as the relevance of individual photoallergens changes over time. Currently, there is no evidence that PA reactions represent a common clinical problem. I'm a Clinique Super City Block user as well. " Settled " is a good description; a better sunblock awaits discovery. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > I'm trying to figure out, by looking at labels, which ingredients > > may be helpful and harmful in sunscreens and makeup. (I rarely > > wear makeup, but now and then I need to.) > > > > Every sunscreen irritates and stings, some worse than others. > > > > I understand that dimethicone and cyclomethicone in > > sunscreens are very helpful in preventing irritation. PABA and > > alcohol are to be avoided. What other ingredients should be > > avoided? > > > > Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Share Posted May 31, 2002 Claire, ensulizole (phenylbenzimidazole sulphonic acid) is a relatively new sunscreen (not sunblock) that is often used in combination with ethylhexyl methoxycinnamate and/or isoamyl p- methoxycinnamate. I'm not sure why its concentration is limited in the US to 4%, whereas in other countries it can be used up to 8%. It is water soluable, so feels less oily. It filters only UVB, not UVA rays. Below is a study that lists it as the least likely sunscreen of those tested to cause an allergic reaction -- but that's for people with normal skin, not those with conditions that predispose to skin sensitivity, where we are warned that sensitivies were found among these products as well: Br J Dermatol 2001 Oct;145(4):597-601 Abstract quote Background Despite the enormous increase in sunscreen use, allergic contact (AC) and photoallergic (PA) reactions to ultraviolet (UV) filters are considered rare. Objectives To analyse the data from 2715 patients who underwent photopatch testing at St 's Institute of Dermatology during the period 1983- 98. Methods A retrospective analysis of all positive photopatch test episodes was undertaken with the results retrieved from the environmental dermatology database and further verified with the original archived patch test documentation for each individual patient. Results In 111 patients with positive reactions (4.1%), there were 155 AC or PA reactions to allergens in the photopatch test series. Eighty PA reactions were observed in 62 (2.3%) patients (32 men and 30 women, age range 28-75 years), with UV filters accounting for 52 positive reactions (65%), drugs 16 (20%), musk ambrette 11 (14%) and the antiseptic trichlorocarbanilide one (1%). The most common UV filter photoallergen was benzophenone-3 with 14 positive results, followed by benzophenone-10 (n = 9), isopropyl dibenzoylmethane (n = 6), p- aminobenzoic acid (PABA) (n = 5), octyl dimethyl PABA (n = 5), butyl methoxydibenzoylmethane (n = 4), isoamyl methoxycinnamate (n = 2), ethyl methoxycinnamate (n = 2), octyl methoxycinnamate (n = 2), amyl dimethyl PABA (n = 2) and phenylbenzimidazole sulphonic acid (n = 1). A similar number of AC reactions to UV filters was detected in this study. Thus 49 patients (1.8%) had a total of 75 reactions: 51 due to UV filters and 24 as a result of exposure to fragrances and therapeutic agents. Benzophenone-10 accounted for 13 AC reactions and benzophenone-3 for eight reactions. Twenty-two patients had a PA reaction alone, whereas 19 patients had chronic actinic dermatitis and 15 patients polymorphic light eruption (PLE) in addition. Thus, 34 of the 62 patients (55%) had a preceding underlying photodermatosis. Conclusions These results show a low yield of positive photopatch tests. Thus, despite the large increase in the use of UV filters over the last decade, the development of PA reactions remains rare. Furthermore, most of the common UV filter photoallergens identified in this study, including PABA, amyl dimethyl PABA and benzophenone-10, are now rarely used in sunscreen manufacture, while isopropyl dibenzoylmethane was voluntarily removed from the market in 1993. Currently, benzophenone-3 is the commonest contact photoallergen still in widespread use. In contrast, the UVB filter octyl methoxycinnamate, used in a number of sunscreens, produced only two positive PA reactions in 12 years of testing. Nevertheless, although these reactions are extremely rare, patients with photodermatoses such as PLE and chronic actinic dermatitis do represent a group of patients at increased risk of developing photoallergy. Further photopatch test series should be regularly reviewed and updated, as the relevance of individual photoallergens changes over time. Currently, there is no evidence that PA reactions represent a common clinical problem. I'm a Clinique Super City Block user as well. " Settled " is a good description; a better sunblock awaits discovery. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > I'm trying to figure out, by looking at labels, which ingredients > > may be helpful and harmful in sunscreens and makeup. (I rarely > > wear makeup, but now and then I need to.) > > > > Every sunscreen irritates and stings, some worse than others. > > > > I understand that dimethicone and cyclomethicone in > > sunscreens are very helpful in preventing irritation. PABA and > > alcohol are to be avoided. What other ingredients should be > > avoided? > > > > Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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