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> I'm baffled as to how these sites intend to win our affections when

> they can't even list the ingredients!

I completely agree, , except even with ingredients I still

wouldn't give many in the cosmetics and skin care industry my

affections.

I believe ingredients aren't listed because:

-it would reveal that the " magic potion " is anything but

-it would reveal that the high cost is not justified

and most important:

- it would reveal just how many potential irritants are present in

their advertised " sensitive skin " or " for rosaceans " products

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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Yes, I agree with Marjorie's statement too. A few months ago, I

wanted to check out the ingredients in an Estee Lauder foundation. I

went to both Macy's and Nordstrom's (I didn't go to Saks or Neiman

Marcus which also carry the line in my town. I don't know how their

salespeople are.), and I had to insist quite strongly to look at the

ingredients for a couple of the foundations. They didn't want me to

look and were hovering all over me asking if the ingredients were ok.

I think they were trying to make a quick sale, and also prevent

shoplifting. It's such a pain to deal with department store cosmetic

counters when you have rosacea. I try to check out the ingredient

list at sephora.com or beauty.com or email the company directly. I

even go to the Sephora in my town to see ingredients that aren't

listed at their website. Unfortunately, all lines don't list their

ingredients at the website.

Take care,

Matija

> And Marjorie - I agree w/ you completely about your comments about

what the

> cosmetic companies might be trying to hide. I suspect that in

addition to

> that, the sellers of these products are reluctant to assess their

wares

> honestly; I mean, I guess I can't really expect the seller to

say, " well,

> you know, this stuff don't do squat for red complexions, but you

should see

> my profit margin!! "

>

> I'm done considering the Yonka & Eris creams, since the sellers

don't seem

> to upfront about them (& I can't find anything thorough in English

about the

> companies, just French & Polish).

>

> I'm gonna stick w/ my 2x a day w/ the Vita-k & give it more time.

>

> - in Michigan

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Yes, I agree with Marjorie's statement too. A few months ago, I

wanted to check out the ingredients in an Estee Lauder foundation. I

went to both Macy's and Nordstrom's (I didn't go to Saks or Neiman

Marcus which also carry the line in my town. I don't know how their

salespeople are.), and I had to insist quite strongly to look at the

ingredients for a couple of the foundations. They didn't want me to

look and were hovering all over me asking if the ingredients were ok.

I think they were trying to make a quick sale, and also prevent

shoplifting. It's such a pain to deal with department store cosmetic

counters when you have rosacea. I try to check out the ingredient

list at sephora.com or beauty.com or email the company directly. I

even go to the Sephora in my town to see ingredients that aren't

listed at their website. Unfortunately, all lines don't list their

ingredients at the website.

Take care,

Matija

> And Marjorie - I agree w/ you completely about your comments about

what the

> cosmetic companies might be trying to hide. I suspect that in

addition to

> that, the sellers of these products are reluctant to assess their

wares

> honestly; I mean, I guess I can't really expect the seller to

say, " well,

> you know, this stuff don't do squat for red complexions, but you

should see

> my profit margin!! "

>

> I'm done considering the Yonka & Eris creams, since the sellers

don't seem

> to upfront about them (& I can't find anything thorough in English

about the

> companies, just French & Polish).

>

> I'm gonna stick w/ my 2x a day w/ the Vita-k & give it more time.

>

> - in Michigan

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