Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 You may not like what we did...but here it is. Tough cookies...and went through the cravings and withdrawal! We stopped trying to substitute the foods of our " old ways " : cookies, cakes, pancakes, breads and crackers...and learned how to eat differently. You see...most of the baked foods (cookies, cakes and candies) that are those on the SCDIET we can't tolerate very well right now anyway...too high in honey or made of nut flour. There are so many wonderful foods to eat....look at the legal list and open up your horizons....this and respect to what stage you are on. Sorry if not helpful...but no one " addicted " to " wheat " bread, cookies and cake etc etc...is going to be happy with a SCDIET substitute until the vicious cycle of " addiction " is broken! Take care...it takes time to break this " addiction " or obsession with wheat and other grains (corn included)! When you do break this obsession.......foods taste better! Yes...even vegetables...my son use to be addicted to carbs.......believe me, like you, we had fun in the beginning. We first had to go GF due to diagnosis of Celiac Disease....it was horrible...even GF substitutes upset him....and then when we took out all grain....boy did he get upset! He cried....peed and moaned....and threatened to never eat again......guess what he did (no starving in this house)....we tried to make meal time fun...making it into a game.....once his body got over it (and I do think that it was more than just psychological...it seemed to by physiological too)....he was OK. Even as parents the cravings and the obsession was horrible to break...we had dreams of pizza and once wished we could eat are éclairs! Now he/we loves vegetables and fruit and meats (like I said...they even taste better for some reason)...he no longer goes to the refrigerator driving us all nuts like he use to/horrible tantrums and rage attacks related to food " addiction " and what ever else caused this problem in him. We have even been able to take the lock of the pantry door even for the first time in years! It does get better...and food...well even the kids learn to eat to live...instead of live to eat! Antoinette (SCD entire family day 29/Family List Of Problems: Celiac Disease, ADD, ADHD, ASD and other neurological problems related to a damage gut...yet now we are ALL healing for the first time!) Feeling overwhelmed Well, guys, It's been 2 or 3 weeks now trying to do this diet. I haven't had much luck at all. My plan WAS to replace their favorites with SCD legal substitutes (waffles, pancakes, pb&j sandwiches, crackers) but they don't like anything I make! A couple of times Wesley has tried something and didn't like it to the point of gagging and spitting it out. A few times he wouldn't even try it just because of looks...like this morning when I tried making those pecan waffles that Carol F. suggested (thanks Carol...I liked 'em at least!) I tried the Mock Whole Wheat Bread from SCD with Taste and Tradition (basically it's a giant pb cookie!!! especially with more pb&SCD Jam! mmmm) He actually took a bite of just the bread and won't eat any more...not even with the pb&j on it! I don't know what to do! He's always crying that he wants something to eat, but I don't have anything to give him! Any advice would be appreciated. Mel Not EVEN SCD yet Wes 4.5 yo PDD-NOS and ADHD Phoebe 2.5 yo nothing diagnosed, but showing some quirks Henry due in July...would like to AVOID AUTISM and gut problems! For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > and http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 You may not like what we did...but here it is. Tough cookies...and went through the cravings and withdrawal! We stopped trying to substitute the foods of our " old ways " : cookies, cakes, pancakes, breads and crackers...and learned how to eat differently. You see...most of the baked foods (cookies, cakes and candies) that are those on the SCDIET we can't tolerate very well right now anyway...too high in honey or made of nut flour. There are so many wonderful foods to eat....look at the legal list and open up your horizons....this and respect to what stage you are on. Sorry if not helpful...but no one " addicted " to " wheat " bread, cookies and cake etc etc...is going to be happy with a SCDIET substitute until the vicious cycle of " addiction " is broken! Take care...it takes time to break this " addiction " or obsession with wheat and other grains (corn included)! When you do break this obsession.......foods taste better! Yes...even vegetables...my son use to be addicted to carbs.......believe me, like you, we had fun in the beginning. We first had to go GF due to diagnosis of Celiac Disease....it was horrible...even GF substitutes upset him....and then when we took out all grain....boy did he get upset! He cried....peed and moaned....and threatened to never eat again......guess what he did (no starving in this house)....we tried to make meal time fun...making it into a game.....once his body got over it (and I do think that it was more than just psychological...it seemed to by physiological too)....he was OK. Even as parents the cravings and the obsession was horrible to break...we had dreams of pizza and once wished we could eat are éclairs! Now he/we loves vegetables and fruit and meats (like I said...they even taste better for some reason)...he no longer goes to the refrigerator driving us all nuts like he use to/horrible tantrums and rage attacks related to food " addiction " and what ever else caused this problem in him. We have even been able to take the lock of the pantry door even for the first time in years! It does get better...and food...well even the kids learn to eat to live...instead of live to eat! Antoinette (SCD entire family day 29/Family List Of Problems: Celiac Disease, ADD, ADHD, ASD and other neurological problems related to a damage gut...yet now we are ALL healing for the first time!) Feeling overwhelmed Well, guys, It's been 2 or 3 weeks now trying to do this diet. I haven't had much luck at all. My plan WAS to replace their favorites with SCD legal substitutes (waffles, pancakes, pb&j sandwiches, crackers) but they don't like anything I make! A couple of times Wesley has tried something and didn't like it to the point of gagging and spitting it out. A few times he wouldn't even try it just because of looks...like this morning when I tried making those pecan waffles that Carol F. suggested (thanks Carol...I liked 'em at least!) I tried the Mock Whole Wheat Bread from SCD with Taste and Tradition (basically it's a giant pb cookie!!! especially with more pb&SCD Jam! mmmm) He actually took a bite of just the bread and won't eat any more...not even with the pb&j on it! I don't know what to do! He's always crying that he wants something to eat, but I don't have anything to give him! Any advice would be appreciated. Mel Not EVEN SCD yet Wes 4.5 yo PDD-NOS and ADHD Phoebe 2.5 yo nothing diagnosed, but showing some quirks Henry due in July...would like to AVOID AUTISM and gut problems! For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > and http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 You may not like what we did...but here it is. Tough cookies...and went through the cravings and withdrawal! We stopped trying to substitute the foods of our " old ways " : cookies, cakes, pancakes, breads and crackers...and learned how to eat differently. You see...most of the baked foods (cookies, cakes and candies) that are those on the SCDIET we can't tolerate very well right now anyway...too high in honey or made of nut flour. There are so many wonderful foods to eat....look at the legal list and open up your horizons....this and respect to what stage you are on. Sorry if not helpful...but no one " addicted " to " wheat " bread, cookies and cake etc etc...is going to be happy with a SCDIET substitute until the vicious cycle of " addiction " is broken! Take care...it takes time to break this " addiction " or obsession with wheat and other grains (corn included)! When you do break this obsession.......foods taste better! Yes...even vegetables...my son use to be addicted to carbs.......believe me, like you, we had fun in the beginning. We first had to go GF due to diagnosis of Celiac Disease....it was horrible...even GF substitutes upset him....and then when we took out all grain....boy did he get upset! He cried....peed and moaned....and threatened to never eat again......guess what he did (no starving in this house)....we tried to make meal time fun...making it into a game.....once his body got over it (and I do think that it was more than just psychological...it seemed to by physiological too)....he was OK. Even as parents the cravings and the obsession was horrible to break...we had dreams of pizza and once wished we could eat are éclairs! Now he/we loves vegetables and fruit and meats (like I said...they even taste better for some reason)...he no longer goes to the refrigerator driving us all nuts like he use to/horrible tantrums and rage attacks related to food " addiction " and what ever else caused this problem in him. We have even been able to take the lock of the pantry door even for the first time in years! It does get better...and food...well even the kids learn to eat to live...instead of live to eat! Antoinette (SCD entire family day 29/Family List Of Problems: Celiac Disease, ADD, ADHD, ASD and other neurological problems related to a damage gut...yet now we are ALL healing for the first time!) Feeling overwhelmed Well, guys, It's been 2 or 3 weeks now trying to do this diet. I haven't had much luck at all. My plan WAS to replace their favorites with SCD legal substitutes (waffles, pancakes, pb&j sandwiches, crackers) but they don't like anything I make! A couple of times Wesley has tried something and didn't like it to the point of gagging and spitting it out. A few times he wouldn't even try it just because of looks...like this morning when I tried making those pecan waffles that Carol F. suggested (thanks Carol...I liked 'em at least!) I tried the Mock Whole Wheat Bread from SCD with Taste and Tradition (basically it's a giant pb cookie!!! especially with more pb&SCD Jam! mmmm) He actually took a bite of just the bread and won't eat any more...not even with the pb&j on it! I don't know what to do! He's always crying that he wants something to eat, but I don't have anything to give him! Any advice would be appreciated. Mel Not EVEN SCD yet Wes 4.5 yo PDD-NOS and ADHD Phoebe 2.5 yo nothing diagnosed, but showing some quirks Henry due in July...would like to AVOID AUTISM and gut problems! For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > and http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 > > You may not like what we did...but here it is. Tough cookies...and went through the cravings and withdrawal! We stopped trying to substitute the foods of our " old ways " : cookies, cakes, pancakes, breads and crackers...and learned how to eat differently. You've got guts girl! Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 > > You may not like what we did...but here it is. Tough cookies...and went through the cravings and withdrawal! We stopped trying to substitute the foods of our " old ways " : cookies, cakes, pancakes, breads and crackers...and learned how to eat differently. You've got guts girl! Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 > > You may not like what we did...but here it is. Tough cookies...and went through the cravings and withdrawal! We stopped trying to substitute the foods of our " old ways " : cookies, cakes, pancakes, breads and crackers...and learned how to eat differently. You've got guts girl! Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Sorry if gruff in my last message......Sometimes you just have to say it like it is! We where once like this......very overwhelmed.......it is so difficult saying good bye forever to old ways and favorite foods.......I literally collapsed once at my pantry door in tears wondering what I could feed myself and KiKI that would not make us sick....just cried hysterically/see we are not alone!.......... But you know....when you start to feel better for the first time in your life.......you see your ASD daughter talk, laugh, assert herself and smile.....run across the floor and learn how to dance for the first time....and sleep through the night without a delirium seizure. Your ADD and ADHD husband and son, stop having rage attacks and tantrums....and your adopted daughter even shows signs of relief! it makes it all worth it to say GOOD BYE! GOOD BY AND GOOD RIDDENS I say! We all need to hang in there! It does get easier...and I even need to hear this sometimes...and will have my own day of being overwhelmed and will need you guys........I highly doubt if I don't have a few of those days coming my way.........after all we are only on day 29! Antoinette (DAY 29 entire family SCD! (Family Problems: Celiac Disease, Leaky Gut, Malabsorption Syndrome, Multiple sensitivities, multiple allergies, ADD, ADHD, ASD, depression, rage attacks, tantrums, mood swings, cerebral palsy/hyperekplexia.......and already doing so much better on day 29!) Re: Feeling overwhelmed > > You may not like what we did...but here it is. Tough cookies...and went through the cravings and withdrawal! We stopped trying to substitute the foods of our " old ways " : cookies, cakes, pancakes, breads and crackers...and learned how to eat differently. You've got guts girl! Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Sorry if gruff in my last message......Sometimes you just have to say it like it is! We where once like this......very overwhelmed.......it is so difficult saying good bye forever to old ways and favorite foods.......I literally collapsed once at my pantry door in tears wondering what I could feed myself and KiKI that would not make us sick....just cried hysterically/see we are not alone!.......... But you know....when you start to feel better for the first time in your life.......you see your ASD daughter talk, laugh, assert herself and smile.....run across the floor and learn how to dance for the first time....and sleep through the night without a delirium seizure. Your ADD and ADHD husband and son, stop having rage attacks and tantrums....and your adopted daughter even shows signs of relief! it makes it all worth it to say GOOD BYE! GOOD BY AND GOOD RIDDENS I say! We all need to hang in there! It does get easier...and I even need to hear this sometimes...and will have my own day of being overwhelmed and will need you guys........I highly doubt if I don't have a few of those days coming my way.........after all we are only on day 29! Antoinette (DAY 29 entire family SCD! (Family Problems: Celiac Disease, Leaky Gut, Malabsorption Syndrome, Multiple sensitivities, multiple allergies, ADD, ADHD, ASD, depression, rage attacks, tantrums, mood swings, cerebral palsy/hyperekplexia.......and already doing so much better on day 29!) Re: Feeling overwhelmed > > You may not like what we did...but here it is. Tough cookies...and went through the cravings and withdrawal! We stopped trying to substitute the foods of our " old ways " : cookies, cakes, pancakes, breads and crackers...and learned how to eat differently. You've got guts girl! Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Sorry if gruff in my last message......Sometimes you just have to say it like it is! We where once like this......very overwhelmed.......it is so difficult saying good bye forever to old ways and favorite foods.......I literally collapsed once at my pantry door in tears wondering what I could feed myself and KiKI that would not make us sick....just cried hysterically/see we are not alone!.......... But you know....when you start to feel better for the first time in your life.......you see your ASD daughter talk, laugh, assert herself and smile.....run across the floor and learn how to dance for the first time....and sleep through the night without a delirium seizure. Your ADD and ADHD husband and son, stop having rage attacks and tantrums....and your adopted daughter even shows signs of relief! it makes it all worth it to say GOOD BYE! GOOD BY AND GOOD RIDDENS I say! We all need to hang in there! It does get easier...and I even need to hear this sometimes...and will have my own day of being overwhelmed and will need you guys........I highly doubt if I don't have a few of those days coming my way.........after all we are only on day 29! Antoinette (DAY 29 entire family SCD! (Family Problems: Celiac Disease, Leaky Gut, Malabsorption Syndrome, Multiple sensitivities, multiple allergies, ADD, ADHD, ASD, depression, rage attacks, tantrums, mood swings, cerebral palsy/hyperekplexia.......and already doing so much better on day 29!) Re: Feeling overwhelmed > > You may not like what we did...but here it is. Tough cookies...and went through the cravings and withdrawal! We stopped trying to substitute the foods of our " old ways " : cookies, cakes, pancakes, breads and crackers...and learned how to eat differently. You've got guts girl! Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Not gruff at all...so basically what you're saying is you made the chicken soup and the hamburger, jello, eggs and juice and said...that's what you get. If you don't eat it, you'll be hungry...? It hurts me just thinking about it! I know it's good for them, but it just breaks my heart when they cry that they are hungry and I say they can't have whatever it is that they want...not to mention the stress of the tantrums!...my husband has been working VERY late every night (try midnight) and so I have NO help with it WHATSOEVER! There's noone with me reminding me to be strong and not give in. Anyway...I was just looking for specific advice on how everyone implemented the intro when their children were addicted to all the stuff they couldn't have and wouldn't even TOUCH (literally) the foods on the diet. That and I'm having a little pity party over here. --Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Not gruff at all...so basically what you're saying is you made the chicken soup and the hamburger, jello, eggs and juice and said...that's what you get. If you don't eat it, you'll be hungry...? It hurts me just thinking about it! I know it's good for them, but it just breaks my heart when they cry that they are hungry and I say they can't have whatever it is that they want...not to mention the stress of the tantrums!...my husband has been working VERY late every night (try midnight) and so I have NO help with it WHATSOEVER! There's noone with me reminding me to be strong and not give in. Anyway...I was just looking for specific advice on how everyone implemented the intro when their children were addicted to all the stuff they couldn't have and wouldn't even TOUCH (literally) the foods on the diet. That and I'm having a little pity party over here. --Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 > > > That and I'm having a little pity party over here. > Mel, sweetie You have to break eggs to make omelets! This deprivation you envsion is for a period of three days. Pretend the doctor told them to eat this way for a medical procedure. If it really becomes unbearable, move on. You'll probably still do OK and the sky won't fall. SCD is not an easy path but it's a very good one for most of us. You have our empathy and understanding in this venture. Carol F. SCD 6 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 > > > That and I'm having a little pity party over here. > Mel, sweetie You have to break eggs to make omelets! This deprivation you envsion is for a period of three days. Pretend the doctor told them to eat this way for a medical procedure. If it really becomes unbearable, move on. You'll probably still do OK and the sky won't fall. SCD is not an easy path but it's a very good one for most of us. You have our empathy and understanding in this venture. Carol F. SCD 6 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 > > > That and I'm having a little pity party over here. > Mel, sweetie You have to break eggs to make omelets! This deprivation you envsion is for a period of three days. Pretend the doctor told them to eat this way for a medical procedure. If it really becomes unbearable, move on. You'll probably still do OK and the sky won't fall. SCD is not an easy path but it's a very good one for most of us. You have our empathy and understanding in this venture. Carol F. SCD 6 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Well just think of it this way. What if these were the only foods you could buy for whatever reason. Would you feel the same way? What if you thought of it as these foods make them healthy and the other foods do not. In a way, many of the foods DO hurt our kids so it is not far off the chain. My son threw a tantrum the first time I offered him different foods. He warmed up to it slowly. Things are always changing.one day they will love something the next day they hate it. He will battle something he likes for no apparent reason, lol. Just have about 3 things you can offer him that are somewhat different. Like eggs scrambled, chicken pancakes, hamburgers, grape juice jell, soup..or give two choices " Do you want pancakes or eggs scrambled? " " Do you want hamburgers or soup? " Kids like two choices and it gives them control over the situation. Unless your son is like mine who always asks " Mommy I want THREE choices! " lol. You could even show him the refrigerator. " Here are your choices, this is what we have. " Most likely there will be at least ONE thing they will eat. I hate to say it but I have told him those little lies about food being " all gone. " Whether he cares or not depends on his mood. I would take everything out of the house. We did.it really helps. We don't eat anything he can't have in front of him. If we are out and about and he sees it, we say " that is so and so's food, not for Kai " and he seems to be ok with that. Hope this helps! Kelli SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06 _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of memoryalbumcreations Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:43 PM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Feeling overwhelmed Not gruff at all...so basically what you're saying is you made the chicken soup and the hamburger, jello, eggs and juice and said...that's what you get. If you don't eat it, you'll be hungry...? It hurts me just thinking about it! I know it's good for them, but it just breaks my heart when they cry that they are hungry and I say they can't have whatever it is that they want...not to mention the stress of the tantrums!...my husband has been working VERY late every night (try midnight) and so I have NO help with it WHATSOEVER! There's noone with me reminding me to be strong and not give in. Anyway...I was just looking for specific advice on how everyone implemented the intro when their children were addicted to all the stuff they couldn't have and wouldn't even TOUCH (literally) the foods on the diet. That and I'm having a little pity party over here. --Mel For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Well just think of it this way. What if these were the only foods you could buy for whatever reason. Would you feel the same way? What if you thought of it as these foods make them healthy and the other foods do not. In a way, many of the foods DO hurt our kids so it is not far off the chain. My son threw a tantrum the first time I offered him different foods. He warmed up to it slowly. Things are always changing.one day they will love something the next day they hate it. He will battle something he likes for no apparent reason, lol. Just have about 3 things you can offer him that are somewhat different. Like eggs scrambled, chicken pancakes, hamburgers, grape juice jell, soup..or give two choices " Do you want pancakes or eggs scrambled? " " Do you want hamburgers or soup? " Kids like two choices and it gives them control over the situation. Unless your son is like mine who always asks " Mommy I want THREE choices! " lol. You could even show him the refrigerator. " Here are your choices, this is what we have. " Most likely there will be at least ONE thing they will eat. I hate to say it but I have told him those little lies about food being " all gone. " Whether he cares or not depends on his mood. I would take everything out of the house. We did.it really helps. We don't eat anything he can't have in front of him. If we are out and about and he sees it, we say " that is so and so's food, not for Kai " and he seems to be ok with that. Hope this helps! Kelli SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06 _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of memoryalbumcreations Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:43 PM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Feeling overwhelmed Not gruff at all...so basically what you're saying is you made the chicken soup and the hamburger, jello, eggs and juice and said...that's what you get. If you don't eat it, you'll be hungry...? It hurts me just thinking about it! I know it's good for them, but it just breaks my heart when they cry that they are hungry and I say they can't have whatever it is that they want...not to mention the stress of the tantrums!...my husband has been working VERY late every night (try midnight) and so I have NO help with it WHATSOEVER! There's noone with me reminding me to be strong and not give in. Anyway...I was just looking for specific advice on how everyone implemented the intro when their children were addicted to all the stuff they couldn't have and wouldn't even TOUCH (literally) the foods on the diet. That and I'm having a little pity party over here. --Mel For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Well just think of it this way. What if these were the only foods you could buy for whatever reason. Would you feel the same way? What if you thought of it as these foods make them healthy and the other foods do not. In a way, many of the foods DO hurt our kids so it is not far off the chain. My son threw a tantrum the first time I offered him different foods. He warmed up to it slowly. Things are always changing.one day they will love something the next day they hate it. He will battle something he likes for no apparent reason, lol. Just have about 3 things you can offer him that are somewhat different. Like eggs scrambled, chicken pancakes, hamburgers, grape juice jell, soup..or give two choices " Do you want pancakes or eggs scrambled? " " Do you want hamburgers or soup? " Kids like two choices and it gives them control over the situation. Unless your son is like mine who always asks " Mommy I want THREE choices! " lol. You could even show him the refrigerator. " Here are your choices, this is what we have. " Most likely there will be at least ONE thing they will eat. I hate to say it but I have told him those little lies about food being " all gone. " Whether he cares or not depends on his mood. I would take everything out of the house. We did.it really helps. We don't eat anything he can't have in front of him. If we are out and about and he sees it, we say " that is so and so's food, not for Kai " and he seems to be ok with that. Hope this helps! Kelli SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06 _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of memoryalbumcreations Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:43 PM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Feeling overwhelmed Not gruff at all...so basically what you're saying is you made the chicken soup and the hamburger, jello, eggs and juice and said...that's what you get. If you don't eat it, you'll be hungry...? It hurts me just thinking about it! I know it's good for them, but it just breaks my heart when they cry that they are hungry and I say they can't have whatever it is that they want...not to mention the stress of the tantrums!...my husband has been working VERY late every night (try midnight) and so I have NO help with it WHATSOEVER! There's noone with me reminding me to be strong and not give in. Anyway...I was just looking for specific advice on how everyone implemented the intro when their children were addicted to all the stuff they couldn't have and wouldn't even TOUCH (literally) the foods on the diet. That and I'm having a little pity party over here. --Mel For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Thanks for that perspective...It helps a little to keep in mind that the foods he wants ARE hurting him. When you first started, did you ever have a time when Kai didn't eat ANYTHING (I mean literally) and then was hungry all night? Or did he just put up a fight and when he finally realized he wasn't getting anything else he took a bite of the food you DID give him? Thanks for all the advice everyone...I don't know why I just can't get my head around this! I really want to do it and BELIEVE in it very much! --Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Thanks for that perspective...It helps a little to keep in mind that the foods he wants ARE hurting him. When you first started, did you ever have a time when Kai didn't eat ANYTHING (I mean literally) and then was hungry all night? Or did he just put up a fight and when he finally realized he wasn't getting anything else he took a bite of the food you DID give him? Thanks for all the advice everyone...I don't know why I just can't get my head around this! I really want to do it and BELIEVE in it very much! --Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Thanks for that perspective...It helps a little to keep in mind that the foods he wants ARE hurting him. When you first started, did you ever have a time when Kai didn't eat ANYTHING (I mean literally) and then was hungry all night? Or did he just put up a fight and when he finally realized he wasn't getting anything else he took a bite of the food you DID give him? Thanks for all the advice everyone...I don't know why I just can't get my head around this! I really want to do it and BELIEVE in it very much! --Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Kai would have a tantrum and say " I don't want it its yucky! " like 50 million times, lol. Then he would do something else. And if he was hungry I would come back with my two choices. He is big on " maybe later " and that is what I say with everything from not wanting to try something to going on the potty. There was always SOMETHING he wanted though.like the jello and hamburger is usually chosen if he was very hungry. My son is extremely persistent but not a particularly picky eater. Just a pain in the butt most of the time, lol. It is just like anything with kids. Do you remember when he first tried foods? My daughter hated everything the first try and I would try again and again and eventually she might dig it. (obviously sometimes they never like it). It is just different tastes and textures. Things like chicken pancakes made on the griddle are good bets.as are hamburgers and jello. I used to make meatballs into shapes like hearts or triangles. There are cookie cutters that you could use with the jello.just use more gelatin to make it stiffer. I understand your worry. I had the same worries. My son can make me crazy sometimes.its like I am almost scared of him and the havoc he is going to cause. I want him to be healthy but the tantrums.oy, they are hellicious! But he likes to surprise me and he has. He loves the food on SCD now and seriously, I would have never expected it. Kelli SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06 _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of memoryalbumcreations Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:59 PM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Feeling overwhelmed Thanks for that perspective...It helps a little to keep in mind that the foods he wants ARE hurting him. When you first started, did you ever have a time when Kai didn't eat ANYTHING (I mean literally) and then was hungry all night? Or did he just put up a fight and when he finally realized he wasn't getting anything else he took a bite of the food you DID give him? Thanks for all the advice everyone...I don't know why I just can't get my head around this! I really want to do it and BELIEVE in it very much! --Mel For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Kai would have a tantrum and say " I don't want it its yucky! " like 50 million times, lol. Then he would do something else. And if he was hungry I would come back with my two choices. He is big on " maybe later " and that is what I say with everything from not wanting to try something to going on the potty. There was always SOMETHING he wanted though.like the jello and hamburger is usually chosen if he was very hungry. My son is extremely persistent but not a particularly picky eater. Just a pain in the butt most of the time, lol. It is just like anything with kids. Do you remember when he first tried foods? My daughter hated everything the first try and I would try again and again and eventually she might dig it. (obviously sometimes they never like it). It is just different tastes and textures. Things like chicken pancakes made on the griddle are good bets.as are hamburgers and jello. I used to make meatballs into shapes like hearts or triangles. There are cookie cutters that you could use with the jello.just use more gelatin to make it stiffer. I understand your worry. I had the same worries. My son can make me crazy sometimes.its like I am almost scared of him and the havoc he is going to cause. I want him to be healthy but the tantrums.oy, they are hellicious! But he likes to surprise me and he has. He loves the food on SCD now and seriously, I would have never expected it. Kelli SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06 _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of memoryalbumcreations Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:59 PM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Feeling overwhelmed Thanks for that perspective...It helps a little to keep in mind that the foods he wants ARE hurting him. When you first started, did you ever have a time when Kai didn't eat ANYTHING (I mean literally) and then was hungry all night? Or did he just put up a fight and when he finally realized he wasn't getting anything else he took a bite of the food you DID give him? Thanks for all the advice everyone...I don't know why I just can't get my head around this! I really want to do it and BELIEVE in it very much! --Mel For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Kai would have a tantrum and say " I don't want it its yucky! " like 50 million times, lol. Then he would do something else. And if he was hungry I would come back with my two choices. He is big on " maybe later " and that is what I say with everything from not wanting to try something to going on the potty. There was always SOMETHING he wanted though.like the jello and hamburger is usually chosen if he was very hungry. My son is extremely persistent but not a particularly picky eater. Just a pain in the butt most of the time, lol. It is just like anything with kids. Do you remember when he first tried foods? My daughter hated everything the first try and I would try again and again and eventually she might dig it. (obviously sometimes they never like it). It is just different tastes and textures. Things like chicken pancakes made on the griddle are good bets.as are hamburgers and jello. I used to make meatballs into shapes like hearts or triangles. There are cookie cutters that you could use with the jello.just use more gelatin to make it stiffer. I understand your worry. I had the same worries. My son can make me crazy sometimes.its like I am almost scared of him and the havoc he is going to cause. I want him to be healthy but the tantrums.oy, they are hellicious! But he likes to surprise me and he has. He loves the food on SCD now and seriously, I would have never expected it. Kelli SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06 _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of memoryalbumcreations Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:59 PM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Feeling overwhelmed Thanks for that perspective...It helps a little to keep in mind that the foods he wants ARE hurting him. When you first started, did you ever have a time when Kai didn't eat ANYTHING (I mean literally) and then was hungry all night? Or did he just put up a fight and when he finally realized he wasn't getting anything else he took a bite of the food you DID give him? Thanks for all the advice everyone...I don't know why I just can't get my head around this! I really want to do it and BELIEVE in it very much! --Mel For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Feeling overwhelmed. Oh, Yes. I think I have had a wave, some times title wave, of feeling overwhelmed almost everyday since we started on this diet. One of the things I make myself do is remember back to what life was 3 months ago. This helps. It has gotten easier. I have gotten some things that everyone will eat and I guess the anxiety of my two little people not eating everything has lessened. I KNOW that this is helping our child. Some days I feel like there is something that I am missing though. I talked to a naturopath person today hoping that I would possible find a support and she was worse than most of the Drs. I have talked to.(Didn't listen and had her own agenda to preach.) The main thing that I tell myself is to just keep going. You can do this. Sandy M. Whole family SCD for 9 + wks in support of 5 yr old who rages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 My daughter would rummage through the cupboards screaming at the top of her lungs. She wanted french fries!! Cake!! Something. She managed to find a container of tic tacs in my husbands desk and ate the whole thing. Finally after a week or so, she calmed down a lot. Now she will eat things she hasnt eaten since she was a baby...she is picky how I cook her meat, picky about the baked goods, but she will eat just about any veggie or fruit I give her. Rather than the pathogens dictating what they need, her healing body is dictating. That first week I had to bribe her to eat chicken soup. Now she craves it. Hang in there. Our whole family is on this diet at home-there are not illegals there (my husband has non SCD business lunches, but he's not sick like the rest of us) I hope they will want to stay on it the rest of their life (well, I'd like to add back milk and eggs someday-both my daughters and I are intolerant...my 7 year old severely) Grain free, sugar free really is the most healthy way to eat. You're giving your child a great gift. Kerri~mother of Holli 7 yr old constipation and rages...etc Re: Feeling overwhelmed > Not gruff at all...so basically what you're saying is you made the > chicken soup and the hamburger, jello, eggs and juice and > said...that's what you get. If you don't eat it, you'll be hungry...? > It hurts me just thinking about it! I know it's good for them, but it > just breaks my heart when they cry that they are hungry and I say they > can't have whatever it is that they want...not to mention the stress > of the tantrums!...my husband has been working VERY late every night > (try midnight) and so I have NO help with it WHATSOEVER! There's > noone with me reminding me to be strong and not give in. Anyway...I > was just looking for specific advice on how everyone implemented the > intro when their children were addicted to all the stuff they couldn't > have and wouldn't even TOUCH (literally) the foods on the diet. > > That and I'm having a little pity party over here. > > --Mel > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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