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That is so incredibly kind of you. My mom or sister will go with me when I go

to Vandy. They won't let me go anywhere by myself. It is such a blessing to

have them as it keeps my hubby from having to take off work without pay.

I had to delete most of my e-mails. I just don't have the energy to go through

them all. I hope everyone will forgive me. I'm not trying to ignore everyone.

I know many are having problems and pain. Please know you are in my prayers as

always.

I ended up in the hospital Friday night. It was a night from Hell! I had not

been doing great all day Friday but pain med, phenergan, and the new preggie

pops for nausea were keeping things tolerable. Well, about 7 p.m., I all of a

sudden felt better and had the bright idea that I was hungry. I ate part of a

piece of pizza and that was all she wrote! The horrible pain and nausea was

full blown. After 45 minutes of no improvement, we went to the ER. Arrived

there at 8 p.m. didn't get back to a room til midnight. They had four

ambulances and a few very serious walk-ins. Almost all the patients they saw

ended up being admitted and some even transferred to a bigger hospital. By the

time I got back to a room, I had thrown up a few times in the waiting room

bathroom. Most of the docs at my local ER give me med for pain and nausea right

away. This one female doc insists on waiting for the labs. Of course, this was

the doc that was there Friday! She's really sweet but will not budge on this.

Finally at 2 a.m., they got my labs back. She said all enzymes were fine but my

blood counts and potassium were very low. She was concerned about a GI bleed.

She had to do a rectal and then swore she'd give me pain med. I told her she'd

find no stool as I had not gone since the day before and prior to the little bit

of pizza had eaten almost nothing Friday. She said it was probably a good sign

that I had not had a bm Friday as a GI bleed will often cause diarrhea. Anyway,

she did the rectal and I must say was very gentle and apologetic. She found no

stool or blood. They gave me reglan and toradal. The reglan helped the nausea

instantly but the tordal made me incredibly anxious and ansy for hours. At 4:30

a.m., she came to tell me they were keeping me cause my blood counts were too

low. I never even asked how low cause I really didn't even care. I did tell

the nurse that my hematocrit, rbc, and wbc are low lots of times and no one ever

even pays attention. The nurse said the doc had pulled previous labs and it was

lower than normal. Anyway, I thought my pcp was out of town so I told them to

call the local surgeon he had referred me to on Thursday if I needed to be

admitted. I figured the surgeon had seen me in the hospital before and in his

office so at least knew my story. No, they call the local doc that anyone

without a pcp gets admitted under. I had never even heard of the guy. They get

me to the floor at 4:30 a.m. I ask for something for pain and nausea around 6

a.m. and am told there is no order. I was so exhausted I just went back to

sleep. Finally, around 9 a.m. I tell the nurse I really need something for pain

and nausea. She tells me there is no order and the doc I'm admitted under will

want to see me first. This nurse was the one that refused to give me IV meds

once my pcp ordered lortab (for when I thought oral meds would be okay). She

seemed real sweet and apologetic about no order so I just decided to ride it

out. Finally, my mom called at 11:20 a.m. and I told her the story. She said

" your stepdad and I will take care of it " . My mom called at 11:30 and said she

had called the hospital's head nurse and told them what was going on. the head

nurse looked in the computer and said there was definitely an order for pain and

nausea med for me. She assured my mom it would be taken care of. In less than

10 minutes, I had med for pain and nausea. The nurse was sweet as pie and was

even in two or three times to see how I was doing. Unfortunately, they must

have given me toradal again because I had the horrible anzy feeling again for

over 3 hours. ly, it was worse than the pain. The doc shows up about 1

p.m. Real good looking young, but basically an ...! Asks me what I'm doing

there. I give him the short version of the acute panc story with episodes of

pain/nausea both with and without elevated enzymes. He instantly says, " if the

enzymes aren't elevated, it's not the pancreas " . I didn't bother arguing with

him cause I didn't really give a shit what he thought. He said they kept me

Friday night only because my potassium was down at 2.5 (they told me all my

blood counts were low, but whatever) but that my labs looked great so he was

sending me home. THANK GOD for that! I asked if he could please just give me

something to counteract what the tordal had done and he looked at me as if I'd

lost my mind. I said, just maybe some mild valium or something. He said that

wasn't 'indicated' and he would only give me meds indicated in my case. He said

he would give me a script for a few pills for pain and nausea since he wasn't my

regular doc. I told him fine as I was seeing a pain management doc on Tuesday

anyway. He gave me a script for 6 lortab 7.5 and 10 phenergan. When I got home

I took a clonapin (.5 mg) and an ambien and slept for a few hours to get rid of

the horrible feeling the tordal caused.

From this point on, I will tell doctors I am SEVERELY allergic to Tordal. I am

pretty sure I had it before with the same effect. I just wasn't 100% sure it

was toradal. Anxiety is not listed as a side effect but I know it was the

Tordal as it happened with both doses and lasted for hours. I've had reglan

lots of times. In fact, I was on reglan twice a day for several months with no

problems so I know that's not it.

Another weird thing was that once they gave me the toradal, I only went to the

bathroom two times until after I left the hospital. They were giving me IV

fluids at 125 cc an hour and I only peed a total of 200 ccs from 2 a.m til 2

p.m. Very unusual for me. I typically go at least 1000-1600 ccs per 8 hour

shift as I usually have to empty my own overflowing speci pan!

Another thing is that toradal specifically says it can cause bleeding. Here

they were concerned about my blood counts. I am on 4 mg of coumadin a day and

they give me a med that can cause bleeding!

After I go home, I made the mistake of eating again. I had horrible diarrhea

and finally had to take immodium just so I could sleep without having to go to

the potty every few minutes!

Anyway, that was a hospital trip from hell that I hope to never repeat. I am

home now. I slept pretty well last night. I feel washed out.

I really think that I must absolutely avoid my local hospital at all cost. I

will certainly never allow them to admit me when my pcp is not around.

W

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That is so incredibly kind of you. My mom or sister will go with me when I go

to Vandy. They won't let me go anywhere by myself. It is such a blessing to

have them as it keeps my hubby from having to take off work without pay.

I had to delete most of my e-mails. I just don't have the energy to go through

them all. I hope everyone will forgive me. I'm not trying to ignore everyone.

I know many are having problems and pain. Please know you are in my prayers as

always.

I ended up in the hospital Friday night. It was a night from Hell! I had not

been doing great all day Friday but pain med, phenergan, and the new preggie

pops for nausea were keeping things tolerable. Well, about 7 p.m., I all of a

sudden felt better and had the bright idea that I was hungry. I ate part of a

piece of pizza and that was all she wrote! The horrible pain and nausea was

full blown. After 45 minutes of no improvement, we went to the ER. Arrived

there at 8 p.m. didn't get back to a room til midnight. They had four

ambulances and a few very serious walk-ins. Almost all the patients they saw

ended up being admitted and some even transferred to a bigger hospital. By the

time I got back to a room, I had thrown up a few times in the waiting room

bathroom. Most of the docs at my local ER give me med for pain and nausea right

away. This one female doc insists on waiting for the labs. Of course, this was

the doc that was there Friday! She's really sweet but will not budge on this.

Finally at 2 a.m., they got my labs back. She said all enzymes were fine but my

blood counts and potassium were very low. She was concerned about a GI bleed.

She had to do a rectal and then swore she'd give me pain med. I told her she'd

find no stool as I had not gone since the day before and prior to the little bit

of pizza had eaten almost nothing Friday. She said it was probably a good sign

that I had not had a bm Friday as a GI bleed will often cause diarrhea. Anyway,

she did the rectal and I must say was very gentle and apologetic. She found no

stool or blood. They gave me reglan and toradal. The reglan helped the nausea

instantly but the tordal made me incredibly anxious and ansy for hours. At 4:30

a.m., she came to tell me they were keeping me cause my blood counts were too

low. I never even asked how low cause I really didn't even care. I did tell

the nurse that my hematocrit, rbc, and wbc are low lots of times and no one ever

even pays attention. The nurse said the doc had pulled previous labs and it was

lower than normal. Anyway, I thought my pcp was out of town so I told them to

call the local surgeon he had referred me to on Thursday if I needed to be

admitted. I figured the surgeon had seen me in the hospital before and in his

office so at least knew my story. No, they call the local doc that anyone

without a pcp gets admitted under. I had never even heard of the guy. They get

me to the floor at 4:30 a.m. I ask for something for pain and nausea around 6

a.m. and am told there is no order. I was so exhausted I just went back to

sleep. Finally, around 9 a.m. I tell the nurse I really need something for pain

and nausea. She tells me there is no order and the doc I'm admitted under will

want to see me first. This nurse was the one that refused to give me IV meds

once my pcp ordered lortab (for when I thought oral meds would be okay). She

seemed real sweet and apologetic about no order so I just decided to ride it

out. Finally, my mom called at 11:20 a.m. and I told her the story. She said

" your stepdad and I will take care of it " . My mom called at 11:30 and said she

had called the hospital's head nurse and told them what was going on. the head

nurse looked in the computer and said there was definitely an order for pain and

nausea med for me. She assured my mom it would be taken care of. In less than

10 minutes, I had med for pain and nausea. The nurse was sweet as pie and was

even in two or three times to see how I was doing. Unfortunately, they must

have given me toradal again because I had the horrible anzy feeling again for

over 3 hours. ly, it was worse than the pain. The doc shows up about 1

p.m. Real good looking young, but basically an ...! Asks me what I'm doing

there. I give him the short version of the acute panc story with episodes of

pain/nausea both with and without elevated enzymes. He instantly says, " if the

enzymes aren't elevated, it's not the pancreas " . I didn't bother arguing with

him cause I didn't really give a shit what he thought. He said they kept me

Friday night only because my potassium was down at 2.5 (they told me all my

blood counts were low, but whatever) but that my labs looked great so he was

sending me home. THANK GOD for that! I asked if he could please just give me

something to counteract what the tordal had done and he looked at me as if I'd

lost my mind. I said, just maybe some mild valium or something. He said that

wasn't 'indicated' and he would only give me meds indicated in my case. He said

he would give me a script for a few pills for pain and nausea since he wasn't my

regular doc. I told him fine as I was seeing a pain management doc on Tuesday

anyway. He gave me a script for 6 lortab 7.5 and 10 phenergan. When I got home

I took a clonapin (.5 mg) and an ambien and slept for a few hours to get rid of

the horrible feeling the tordal caused.

From this point on, I will tell doctors I am SEVERELY allergic to Tordal. I am

pretty sure I had it before with the same effect. I just wasn't 100% sure it

was toradal. Anxiety is not listed as a side effect but I know it was the

Tordal as it happened with both doses and lasted for hours. I've had reglan

lots of times. In fact, I was on reglan twice a day for several months with no

problems so I know that's not it.

Another weird thing was that once they gave me the toradal, I only went to the

bathroom two times until after I left the hospital. They were giving me IV

fluids at 125 cc an hour and I only peed a total of 200 ccs from 2 a.m til 2

p.m. Very unusual for me. I typically go at least 1000-1600 ccs per 8 hour

shift as I usually have to empty my own overflowing speci pan!

Another thing is that toradal specifically says it can cause bleeding. Here

they were concerned about my blood counts. I am on 4 mg of coumadin a day and

they give me a med that can cause bleeding!

After I go home, I made the mistake of eating again. I had horrible diarrhea

and finally had to take immodium just so I could sleep without having to go to

the potty every few minutes!

Anyway, that was a hospital trip from hell that I hope to never repeat. I am

home now. I slept pretty well last night. I feel washed out.

I really think that I must absolutely avoid my local hospital at all cost. I

will certainly never allow them to admit me when my pcp is not around.

W

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That is so incredibly kind of you. My mom or sister will go with me when I go

to Vandy. They won't let me go anywhere by myself. It is such a blessing to

have them as it keeps my hubby from having to take off work without pay.

I had to delete most of my e-mails. I just don't have the energy to go through

them all. I hope everyone will forgive me. I'm not trying to ignore everyone.

I know many are having problems and pain. Please know you are in my prayers as

always.

I ended up in the hospital Friday night. It was a night from Hell! I had not

been doing great all day Friday but pain med, phenergan, and the new preggie

pops for nausea were keeping things tolerable. Well, about 7 p.m., I all of a

sudden felt better and had the bright idea that I was hungry. I ate part of a

piece of pizza and that was all she wrote! The horrible pain and nausea was

full blown. After 45 minutes of no improvement, we went to the ER. Arrived

there at 8 p.m. didn't get back to a room til midnight. They had four

ambulances and a few very serious walk-ins. Almost all the patients they saw

ended up being admitted and some even transferred to a bigger hospital. By the

time I got back to a room, I had thrown up a few times in the waiting room

bathroom. Most of the docs at my local ER give me med for pain and nausea right

away. This one female doc insists on waiting for the labs. Of course, this was

the doc that was there Friday! She's really sweet but will not budge on this.

Finally at 2 a.m., they got my labs back. She said all enzymes were fine but my

blood counts and potassium were very low. She was concerned about a GI bleed.

She had to do a rectal and then swore she'd give me pain med. I told her she'd

find no stool as I had not gone since the day before and prior to the little bit

of pizza had eaten almost nothing Friday. She said it was probably a good sign

that I had not had a bm Friday as a GI bleed will often cause diarrhea. Anyway,

she did the rectal and I must say was very gentle and apologetic. She found no

stool or blood. They gave me reglan and toradal. The reglan helped the nausea

instantly but the tordal made me incredibly anxious and ansy for hours. At 4:30

a.m., she came to tell me they were keeping me cause my blood counts were too

low. I never even asked how low cause I really didn't even care. I did tell

the nurse that my hematocrit, rbc, and wbc are low lots of times and no one ever

even pays attention. The nurse said the doc had pulled previous labs and it was

lower than normal. Anyway, I thought my pcp was out of town so I told them to

call the local surgeon he had referred me to on Thursday if I needed to be

admitted. I figured the surgeon had seen me in the hospital before and in his

office so at least knew my story. No, they call the local doc that anyone

without a pcp gets admitted under. I had never even heard of the guy. They get

me to the floor at 4:30 a.m. I ask for something for pain and nausea around 6

a.m. and am told there is no order. I was so exhausted I just went back to

sleep. Finally, around 9 a.m. I tell the nurse I really need something for pain

and nausea. She tells me there is no order and the doc I'm admitted under will

want to see me first. This nurse was the one that refused to give me IV meds

once my pcp ordered lortab (for when I thought oral meds would be okay). She

seemed real sweet and apologetic about no order so I just decided to ride it

out. Finally, my mom called at 11:20 a.m. and I told her the story. She said

" your stepdad and I will take care of it " . My mom called at 11:30 and said she

had called the hospital's head nurse and told them what was going on. the head

nurse looked in the computer and said there was definitely an order for pain and

nausea med for me. She assured my mom it would be taken care of. In less than

10 minutes, I had med for pain and nausea. The nurse was sweet as pie and was

even in two or three times to see how I was doing. Unfortunately, they must

have given me toradal again because I had the horrible anzy feeling again for

over 3 hours. ly, it was worse than the pain. The doc shows up about 1

p.m. Real good looking young, but basically an ...! Asks me what I'm doing

there. I give him the short version of the acute panc story with episodes of

pain/nausea both with and without elevated enzymes. He instantly says, " if the

enzymes aren't elevated, it's not the pancreas " . I didn't bother arguing with

him cause I didn't really give a shit what he thought. He said they kept me

Friday night only because my potassium was down at 2.5 (they told me all my

blood counts were low, but whatever) but that my labs looked great so he was

sending me home. THANK GOD for that! I asked if he could please just give me

something to counteract what the tordal had done and he looked at me as if I'd

lost my mind. I said, just maybe some mild valium or something. He said that

wasn't 'indicated' and he would only give me meds indicated in my case. He said

he would give me a script for a few pills for pain and nausea since he wasn't my

regular doc. I told him fine as I was seeing a pain management doc on Tuesday

anyway. He gave me a script for 6 lortab 7.5 and 10 phenergan. When I got home

I took a clonapin (.5 mg) and an ambien and slept for a few hours to get rid of

the horrible feeling the tordal caused.

From this point on, I will tell doctors I am SEVERELY allergic to Tordal. I am

pretty sure I had it before with the same effect. I just wasn't 100% sure it

was toradal. Anxiety is not listed as a side effect but I know it was the

Tordal as it happened with both doses and lasted for hours. I've had reglan

lots of times. In fact, I was on reglan twice a day for several months with no

problems so I know that's not it.

Another weird thing was that once they gave me the toradal, I only went to the

bathroom two times until after I left the hospital. They were giving me IV

fluids at 125 cc an hour and I only peed a total of 200 ccs from 2 a.m til 2

p.m. Very unusual for me. I typically go at least 1000-1600 ccs per 8 hour

shift as I usually have to empty my own overflowing speci pan!

Another thing is that toradal specifically says it can cause bleeding. Here

they were concerned about my blood counts. I am on 4 mg of coumadin a day and

they give me a med that can cause bleeding!

After I go home, I made the mistake of eating again. I had horrible diarrhea

and finally had to take immodium just so I could sleep without having to go to

the potty every few minutes!

Anyway, that was a hospital trip from hell that I hope to never repeat. I am

home now. I slept pretty well last night. I feel washed out.

I really think that I must absolutely avoid my local hospital at all cost. I

will certainly never allow them to admit me when my pcp is not around.

W

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I'm so sorry to see that you had a horrible trip to your local ER. I hope that

you are feeling better and your current meds take care of you until you get to

see your pain management doc on tues. Don't you just love the doc that say " it

can't be your pancreas, because there is no elevation. " These are the ones that

I would like tom kick right squarely in the butt. Anyway take it easy and I

hope your flare-up is over for the worst part of it.

Take Care,

Louie in WV

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I'm so sorry to see that you had a horrible trip to your local ER. I hope that

you are feeling better and your current meds take care of you until you get to

see your pain management doc on tues. Don't you just love the doc that say " it

can't be your pancreas, because there is no elevation. " These are the ones that

I would like tom kick right squarely in the butt. Anyway take it easy and I

hope your flare-up is over for the worst part of it.

Take Care,

Louie in WV

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I'm so sorry to see that you had a horrible trip to your local ER. I hope that

you are feeling better and your current meds take care of you until you get to

see your pain management doc on tues. Don't you just love the doc that say " it

can't be your pancreas, because there is no elevation. " These are the ones that

I would like tom kick right squarely in the butt. Anyway take it easy and I

hope your flare-up is over for the worst part of it.

Take Care,

Louie in WV

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>>> W,

I'm so sorry to see that you had a horrible trip to your local ER...Louie>>>

Louie

I am doing better today. I have been able to eat some and my pain is being

pretty well controlled by the pain meds.

I am going to go to the hospital Monday and get copies of all my recent labs.

I'm also going to see if I can actually get copies of my charts with the

nurses' notes, doctor's orders, etc. It just seems odd that my last three

hospitalizations have each gotten worse in regard to the nurses giving me my

pain med. I want to find out what is at the root of the problem and nip it in

the bud.

W

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I'm so sorry you had the hospital visit from hell and hope

you are feeling better by now (I'm still catching up on my

posts from this weekend, so sorry the reply is so late).

Kimber

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Kimber

Vallejo, CA

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Southwest and California Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

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I'm so sorry you had the hospital visit from hell and hope

you are feeling better by now (I'm still catching up on my

posts from this weekend, so sorry the reply is so late).

Kimber

--

Kimber

Vallejo, CA

hominid2@...

Southwest and California Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

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I'm so sorry you had the hospital visit from hell and hope

you are feeling better by now (I'm still catching up on my

posts from this weekend, so sorry the reply is so late).

Kimber

--

Kimber

Vallejo, CA

hominid2@...

Southwest and California Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

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