Re: bifidus and recolonization

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Also, as a side note - because you flared after antibiotics, you could have

a yeast problem, which would be aggrivated by the honey in the baked goods.

Maybe oil of oregano would help in that area... we take protocel for yeast

and it has done wonders for us, but it's not a product that is well known on

this board... so if you want info on it I would be happy to share off board,

but the oil of oregano is well known here and many can answer questions

about it.

's last flare was due primarily to yeast after he overloaded on a bunch

of raw fruit - which is why I can comment on this. The boullari (sp?) could

be helping with the yeast, which might be why you saw improvement and then

regression after the honey sweetened baked goods. My son did not tolerate

the boullari by the way.

Robbie

Mom to UC - scd since 6/04 in full remission.

bifidus and recolonization

>I have a question regarding bifidus. I know Elaine said not to take

> supplements or make yogurt with this probiotic because it has a tendency

> to overgrow. However, bifidus is the one of the main bacteria in our

> large intestines. If we have been on broad-spectrum antibiotics, how is

> bifidus going to get down there if we only take acidophulus species?

> (Which are mostly small intestine colonizers, but do have some benefit

> in the large.) When we are breastfed, we are colonized almost entirely

> with bifidus infantalis. I'm wondering if a short course of probiotics

> including bifidus would get them in there, then switching to just

> acidopholus for long-term maintenance would be more effective.

>

> I had broad-spectrum antibiotics, and have been taking large doses of

> Lyosan, and eating a lot of yogurt, and recently started sacchromysis

> boulardii. I had an improved bowel movement 2 days ago, (after over 2

> weeks of everything but s.boullardii, which I've been taking for almost

> a week) hardly normal though, but then I ate some peanut butter cake,

> and had diarrhea the next day. This morning's BM is back to puddle

> consistency. I'm wondering if I should be supplementing with a

> probiotic that recolonizes both small and large intestine, in order to

> improve. Because without bifidus, how is our large intestine supposed

> to be normalized? Does anyone know why Elaine approved of s.boulardii?

> I don't know if the intro diet plus what I'm doing is going to have an

> effect, and am tempted to take a probiotic that provides species for

> both large and small intestines. Does anyone understand how bifidus

> gets back into our large intestine, if it is wiped out with antibiotics,

> and not recolonized? Should I just pretend like I am at the very

> beginning of the diet again, and expect that it might takes weeks, even

> months before my bacteria species are back to normal?

>

> Debora

> CD 17 years

> SCD 2 years, 5 months

> flare-up from IV broad-spectrum antibiotics

> sulfasalazine, Lyosan, intro diet, s.boullardii; very little effect

>

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> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

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