Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Hi , I take Vitamin B3 in the form of niacinamide. (Niacin, as you know, causes flushing. Niacinamide does not cause flushing.) I take about 500 mg daily (sometimes I take 250 mg if I feel like it). It has helped my skin immensely. If you do decide to take it, let us know if it works out well for you. Take care, Matija > I lost the thread somehow, how much vitamin b and which ones do you take. > > > > L. Lee > Reference Services Mgr./ Webmaster > Mobile Public Library > 701 Government St. > Mobile AL 36602 > http://www.mplonline.org > > e-mail splong@a... > ph. > fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Hi , I take Vitamin B3 in the form of niacinamide. (Niacin, as you know, causes flushing. Niacinamide does not cause flushing.) I take about 500 mg daily (sometimes I take 250 mg if I feel like it). It has helped my skin immensely. If you do decide to take it, let us know if it works out well for you. Take care, Matija > I lost the thread somehow, how much vitamin b and which ones do you take. > > > > L. Lee > Reference Services Mgr./ Webmaster > Mobile Public Library > 701 Government St. > Mobile AL 36602 > http://www.mplonline.org > > e-mail splong@a... > ph. > fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Hi , I take Vitamin B3 in the form of niacinamide. (Niacin, as you know, causes flushing. Niacinamide does not cause flushing.) I take about 500 mg daily (sometimes I take 250 mg if I feel like it). It has helped my skin immensely. If you do decide to take it, let us know if it works out well for you. Take care, Matija > I lost the thread somehow, how much vitamin b and which ones do you take. > > > > L. Lee > Reference Services Mgr./ Webmaster > Mobile Public Library > 701 Government St. > Mobile AL 36602 > http://www.mplonline.org > > e-mail splong@a... > ph. > fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Adam, In my opinion, the Tagamet is the most effective parts of the regime. I don't use the aspirin anymore. When I forget to take the Tagamet, my cheeks are a bright red and feel like they're burning. I don't know what an oral H2 suppressor has to do with rosacea (maybe Dr. Marjorie or Dr. Sy would know?), but it really helps reduce flaring. Hope that helps! Matija > Matija, > > This is a question for you. I was wondering if over the last few > years you have had the chance to experiment at all with Dr. Sy's > flushing reduction regimen. The reason I ask is because I am > wondering if you might know which part of the regimen is the most > effective.. the aspirin or the rest of it. Since I have been > doing Photoderm I have been unable to try any new > products/regimens for my skin. However I have been writing down > everything that seems interesting on a list of things to try when > Photoderm is over. I have 21 products on that list now, and at > the top of it is Sy's regimen, cea-LTD, and Vitacure > (basically large doses of panothenic acid). However I've tried > Aspirin in the past. It seems to work wonders for several hours, > then it wears off, and when it does I end up substantially more > red than when I started. So I'm wondering how effective the > regimen might be if I just avoid the aspirin. > > Thanks > > Adam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Matija, Do you ever use the generic version of Tagamet (cimetidine 200 mg)? Is there a difference in terms of effectiveness of generics vs. brand names? The generic is considerably lower in price. Do you still use the Chlor-Trimeton 4 mg (4 hour) at bed time? Have you ever tried that generic? Michele --- ruizdelvizo ruizdelvizo@...> wrote: > Adam, > > In my opinion, the Tagamet is the most effective > parts of the regime. > I don't use the aspirin anymore. When I forget to > take the Tagamet, > my cheeks are a bright red and feel like they're > burning. I don't > know what an oral H2 suppressor has to do with > rosacea (maybe Dr. > Marjorie or Dr. Sy would know?), but it really helps > reduce flaring. > > Hope that helps! > Matija > > > > > Matija, > > > > This is a question for you. I was wondering if > over the last few > > years you have had the chance to experiment at all > with Dr. Sy's > > flushing reduction regimen. The reason I ask is > because I am > > wondering if you might know which part of the > regimen is the most > > effective.. the aspirin or the rest of it. Since > I have been > > doing Photoderm I have been unable to try any new > > products/regimens for my skin. However I have > been writing down > > everything that seems interesting on a list of > things to try when > > Photoderm is over. I have 21 products on that > list now, and at > > the top of it is Sy's regimen, cea-LTD, > and Vitacure > > (basically large doses of panothenic acid). > However I've tried > > Aspirin in the past. It seems to work wonders for > several hours, > > then it wears off, and when it does I end up > substantially more > > red than when I started. So I'm wondering how > effective the > > regimen might be if I just avoid the aspirin. > > > > Thanks > > > > Adam > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > published book. > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Matija, Do you ever use the generic version of Tagamet (cimetidine 200 mg)? Is there a difference in terms of effectiveness of generics vs. brand names? The generic is considerably lower in price. Do you still use the Chlor-Trimeton 4 mg (4 hour) at bed time? Have you ever tried that generic? Michele --- ruizdelvizo ruizdelvizo@...> wrote: > Adam, > > In my opinion, the Tagamet is the most effective > parts of the regime. > I don't use the aspirin anymore. When I forget to > take the Tagamet, > my cheeks are a bright red and feel like they're > burning. I don't > know what an oral H2 suppressor has to do with > rosacea (maybe Dr. > Marjorie or Dr. Sy would know?), but it really helps > reduce flaring. > > Hope that helps! > Matija > > > > > Matija, > > > > This is a question for you. I was wondering if > over the last few > > years you have had the chance to experiment at all > with Dr. Sy's > > flushing reduction regimen. The reason I ask is > because I am > > wondering if you might know which part of the > regimen is the most > > effective.. the aspirin or the rest of it. Since > I have been > > doing Photoderm I have been unable to try any new > > products/regimens for my skin. However I have > been writing down > > everything that seems interesting on a list of > things to try when > > Photoderm is over. I have 21 products on that > list now, and at > > the top of it is Sy's regimen, cea-LTD, > and Vitacure > > (basically large doses of panothenic acid). > However I've tried > > Aspirin in the past. It seems to work wonders for > several hours, > > then it wears off, and when it does I end up > substantially more > > red than when I started. So I'm wondering how > effective the > > regimen might be if I just avoid the aspirin. > > > > Thanks > > > > Adam > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > published book. > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Michele, Yes, I still take the Chlor-Trimeton 4 mg. Also, I do buy the generics of both the Tagamet and Chlor-Trimeton. I've noticed no difference except for the price. Do you use this regime yourself? If so, does it work for you too? Take care, Matija > > > Matija, > > > > > > This is a question for you. I was wondering if > > over the last few > > > years you have had the chance to experiment at all > > with Dr. Sy's > > > flushing reduction regimen. The reason I ask is > > because I am > > > wondering if you might know which part of the > > regimen is the most > > > effective.. the aspirin or the rest of it. Since > > I have been > > > doing Photoderm I have been unable to try any new > > > products/regimens for my skin. However I have > > been writing down > > > everything that seems interesting on a list of > > things to try when > > > Photoderm is over. I have 21 products on that > > list now, and at > > > the top of it is Sy's regimen, cea-LTD, > > and Vitacure > > > (basically large doses of panothenic acid). > > However I've tried > > > Aspirin in the past. It seems to work wonders for > > several hours, > > > then it wears off, and when it does I end up > > substantially more > > > red than when I started. So I'm wondering how > > effective the > > > regimen might be if I just avoid the aspirin. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must > > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > > published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Michele, Yes, I still take the Chlor-Trimeton 4 mg. Also, I do buy the generics of both the Tagamet and Chlor-Trimeton. I've noticed no difference except for the price. Do you use this regime yourself? If so, does it work for you too? Take care, Matija > > > Matija, > > > > > > This is a question for you. I was wondering if > > over the last few > > > years you have had the chance to experiment at all > > with Dr. Sy's > > > flushing reduction regimen. The reason I ask is > > because I am > > > wondering if you might know which part of the > > regimen is the most > > > effective.. the aspirin or the rest of it. Since > > I have been > > > doing Photoderm I have been unable to try any new > > > products/regimens for my skin. However I have > > been writing down > > > everything that seems interesting on a list of > > things to try when > > > Photoderm is over. I have 21 products on that > > list now, and at > > > the top of it is Sy's regimen, cea-LTD, > > and Vitacure > > > (basically large doses of panothenic acid). > > However I've tried > > > Aspirin in the past. It seems to work wonders for > > several hours, > > > then it wears off, and when it does I end up > > substantially more > > > red than when I started. So I'm wondering how > > effective the > > > regimen might be if I just avoid the aspirin. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must > > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > > published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Michele, Yes, I still take the Chlor-Trimeton 4 mg. Also, I do buy the generics of both the Tagamet and Chlor-Trimeton. I've noticed no difference except for the price. Do you use this regime yourself? If so, does it work for you too? Take care, Matija > > > Matija, > > > > > > This is a question for you. I was wondering if > > over the last few > > > years you have had the chance to experiment at all > > with Dr. Sy's > > > flushing reduction regimen. The reason I ask is > > because I am > > > wondering if you might know which part of the > > regimen is the most > > > effective.. the aspirin or the rest of it. Since > > I have been > > > doing Photoderm I have been unable to try any new > > > products/regimens for my skin. However I have > > been writing down > > > everything that seems interesting on a list of > > things to try when > > > Photoderm is over. I have 21 products on that > > list now, and at > > > the top of it is Sy's regimen, cea-LTD, > > and Vitacure > > > (basically large doses of panothenic acid). > > However I've tried > > > Aspirin in the past. It seems to work wonders for > > several hours, > > > then it wears off, and when it does I end up > > substantially more > > > red than when I started. So I'm wondering how > > effective the > > > regimen might be if I just avoid the aspirin. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must > > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > > published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Hi Matija, Yes I've been using this regime, and I feel it works. I also eliminated caffeine--my favorite drink WAS Diet Coke--now it's cold H2O. After quitting the Diet Coke, I drank a can at work and noticed I was flushing shortly after. Otherwise, the only other flush " buttons " for me *seem* to be heat and stress and of course spicey foods. Still trying to figure it all out! Take care - Michele --- ruizdelvizo ruizdelvizo@...> wrote: > Michele, > > Yes, I still take the Chlor-Trimeton 4 mg. Also, I > do buy the > generics of both the Tagamet and Chlor-Trimeton. > I've noticed no > difference except for the price. > > Do you use this regime yourself? If so, does it work > for you too? > > Take care, > Matija > > > > > > Matija, > > > > > > > > This is a question for you. I was wondering > if > > > over the last few > > > > years you have had the chance to experiment at > all > > > with Dr. Sy's > > > > flushing reduction regimen. The reason I ask > is > > > because I am > > > > wondering if you might know which part of the > > > regimen is the most > > > > effective.. the aspirin or the rest of it. > Since > > > I have been > > > > doing Photoderm I have been unable to try any > new > > > > products/regimens for my skin. However I have > > > been writing down > > > > everything that seems interesting on a list of > > > things to try when > > > > Photoderm is over. I have 21 products on that > > > list now, and at > > > > the top of it is Sy's regimen, > cea-LTD, > > > and Vitacure > > > > (basically large doses of panothenic acid). > > > However I've tried > > > > Aspirin in the past. It seems to work wonders > for > > > several hours, > > > > then it wears off, and when it does I end up > > > substantially more > > > > red than when I started. So I'm wondering how > > > effective the > > > > regimen might be if I just avoid the aspirin. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please read the list highlights before posting > to > > > the whole group > (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > > > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > > > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You > must > > > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his > recently > > > published book. > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Hi Matija, Yes I've been using this regime, and I feel it works. I also eliminated caffeine--my favorite drink WAS Diet Coke--now it's cold H2O. After quitting the Diet Coke, I drank a can at work and noticed I was flushing shortly after. Otherwise, the only other flush " buttons " for me *seem* to be heat and stress and of course spicey foods. Still trying to figure it all out! Take care - Michele --- ruizdelvizo ruizdelvizo@...> wrote: > Michele, > > Yes, I still take the Chlor-Trimeton 4 mg. Also, I > do buy the > generics of both the Tagamet and Chlor-Trimeton. > I've noticed no > difference except for the price. > > Do you use this regime yourself? If so, does it work > for you too? > > Take care, > Matija > > > > > > Matija, > > > > > > > > This is a question for you. I was wondering > if > > > over the last few > > > > years you have had the chance to experiment at > all > > > with Dr. Sy's > > > > flushing reduction regimen. The reason I ask > is > > > because I am > > > > wondering if you might know which part of the > > > regimen is the most > > > > effective.. the aspirin or the rest of it. > Since > > > I have been > > > > doing Photoderm I have been unable to try any > new > > > > products/regimens for my skin. However I have > > > been writing down > > > > everything that seems interesting on a list of > > > things to try when > > > > Photoderm is over. I have 21 products on that > > > list now, and at > > > > the top of it is Sy's regimen, > cea-LTD, > > > and Vitacure > > > > (basically large doses of panothenic acid). > > > However I've tried > > > > Aspirin in the past. It seems to work wonders > for > > > several hours, > > > > then it wears off, and when it does I end up > > > substantially more > > > > red than when I started. So I'm wondering how > > > effective the > > > > regimen might be if I just avoid the aspirin. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please read the list highlights before posting > to > > > the whole group > (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > > > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > > > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You > must > > > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his > recently > > > published book. > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Hi Matija, Yes I've been using this regime, and I feel it works. I also eliminated caffeine--my favorite drink WAS Diet Coke--now it's cold H2O. After quitting the Diet Coke, I drank a can at work and noticed I was flushing shortly after. Otherwise, the only other flush " buttons " for me *seem* to be heat and stress and of course spicey foods. Still trying to figure it all out! Take care - Michele --- ruizdelvizo ruizdelvizo@...> wrote: > Michele, > > Yes, I still take the Chlor-Trimeton 4 mg. Also, I > do buy the > generics of both the Tagamet and Chlor-Trimeton. > I've noticed no > difference except for the price. > > Do you use this regime yourself? If so, does it work > for you too? > > Take care, > Matija > > > > > > Matija, > > > > > > > > This is a question for you. I was wondering > if > > > over the last few > > > > years you have had the chance to experiment at > all > > > with Dr. Sy's > > > > flushing reduction regimen. The reason I ask > is > > > because I am > > > > wondering if you might know which part of the > > > regimen is the most > > > > effective.. the aspirin or the rest of it. > Since > > > I have been > > > > doing Photoderm I have been unable to try any > new > > > > products/regimens for my skin. However I have > > > been writing down > > > > everything that seems interesting on a list of > > > things to try when > > > > Photoderm is over. I have 21 products on that > > > list now, and at > > > > the top of it is Sy's regimen, > cea-LTD, > > > and Vitacure > > > > (basically large doses of panothenic acid). > > > However I've tried > > > > Aspirin in the past. It seems to work wonders > for > > > several hours, > > > > then it wears off, and when it does I end up > > > substantially more > > > > red than when I started. So I'm wondering how > > > effective the > > > > regimen might be if I just avoid the aspirin. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please read the list highlights before posting > to > > > the whole group > (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). > > > Your post will be delayed if you don't give a > > > meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You > must > > > change the subject when replying to a digest ! > > > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his > recently > > > published book. > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2002 Report Share Posted May 29, 2002 Matija I hope you do not mind me directing a question to you personally. You mentionned that stress is a problem. I wonder if you also suffer from edema during periods of even mild stress or mild anxiety even though the skin may be still pale in color? During extreme stress my face burns, turns fiery red and obviously has extreme accompanying edema. I would be inteested to hear if even mild stress is an edema trigger Thanks kindly B ruizdelvizo ruizdelvizo@...> wrote: I live in San Francisco, but have visited cities areas in the US on vacation and for work. I find that when I'm on vacation, my skin is great regardless if I'm in New York City or in a rural area. If I'm working in a low or high pollution area, my skin is still not at its best. Stress has got to be my biggest trigger. Take care, Matija > > In a message dated 5/28/02 1:44:48 PM, rgd40@e... writes: > > <> > I KNOW many other items play a part but I want to get an idea what > areas of the country we are from and if any correlation can be seen. > I am looking specifically at water and it's possible roll. We wash > with it and I have noticed that my skin is better in certain areas. > I also have the time and desire to do this. I have a map on my wall > and my computer is on and waiting. Yes I will post the results and > any conclusions I reach but give me time and please only ONE email I > can not reply or keep updating over 2000 members ( I am also going on > vacation the next few weeks). Remember please keep it simple like the > example and thanks for your help. > > > Buzz Dehning rgd@a... > > > > > -->> > > hey buzz > let me post a response > not for myself > but for my sister -- > > she was diagnosed with rosacea > while living in toronto > a big > dirty > city > in canada > if you are not familiar with it > > she has dry skin > > she moved to davis california > a small town > an hour from sacramento > a green town > where the air pollution is much lower > and her rosacea cleared up > cleared up > cleared up > she doesn't use any topicals > nothing at all > and her skin is > primo. > > when she came back > to toronto > for a short visit > her skin was > visibly > less happy .... > redness > a few bumps > forehead swelling etc. > > stacey > > i just have oily skin > not really any flushing > just the bumps > and severe peeling > but right now it's all under control > clear and > radiant. > (i live in > lovely > downtown > toronto) -- Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the subject when replying to a digest ! See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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