Re: Mediterranean diet / flushing

[Guest guest]

Yes, tomatoes are triggers for me as is wine. Dairy

products seem to be a problem for a lot of R people,

and certainly for me they are no good. Alene, to help

control your flushes you may want to fan yourself when

you feel one coming on. That's what I do and for the

most part it really helps. Also I have found putting

an ice pack on the back of my neck helps keep flushes

down. Last night after drinking a cup of herb tea with

Vit B in it (I was testing) I started to flush. I

immediately put the ice pack on the back of my neck

and it calmed down. I start off the day in good, pale

shape but as the day wears on I start to decline,

particularly after lunch. I'm on a strict diet, so

it's not the food, it's the action of eating. Just the

chewing motion make me flush! That's new - just

started a couple of weeks ago. Anyway, when I come

back to work after lunch I put an ice pack on and it

does the trick.

Warm cars on sunny days are killers for me - air

conditioning and SPF fabric masks and hats help a bit,

but there's not much to be done when you're trapped in

a car. I wonder if we Celtic types should move back to

Ireland where is nice and cool!

Cheers -

--- Alena Coufalova alena@...> wrote:

> Matija mentioned that there seemed to be a large

> number of people affected

> by rosacea on the island her family came from. It is

> true that they probably

> ate typical Mediterranean diet which is considered

> to be quite healthy; on

> the other hand, I was also thinking they were

> receiving a large dose of

> sunshine, at a time when there was no sunscreen or

> sunblock available.

> There are also two other factors - red wine is very

> popular in Croatia, and

> I would assume that tomatoes were significantly

> represented in their diet.

> When I was diaganosed with rosacea 8 years ago, my

> derm told me that

> tomatoes are triggers. Yet I did not see them

> mention in any of the archive

> files. Is it still true? Are tomatoes triggers? I

> also believe that the list

> I was given at that time, mentioned chocolate (which

> I can live very easily

> without, unlike most people) and ice cream. Can

> anyone comment on this?

> (and by the way, Matija, I think that the Adriatic

> coast is one of the most

> beautiful places on this Earth).

>

> Since my flare up, I am back on tetracycline (less

> than a week) and I stuck

> to my cabbage regimen every night, with the

> exception of one, when laziness

> got the better of me). Already on Saturday, I could

> say that the one cheek

> and the chin are completely back to their normal

> colour - no sign of

> redness. My left cheek, which was significantly

> worse, is still showing a

> circular patchin the middle, about an inch in

> diameter, which seems to be

> the epicentrum of my rosacea. No more breakouts

> though, the skin is smooth

> though the patch is still visible. I am not wearing

> any foundation at all.

> I wish I could figure how to control flushing. I am

> not sure if I mentioned

> this in my last post, but I am usually very cold at

> work (sit at the

> computer all day) and in spite of wearing a thick

> sweater, I have " attacks "

> when I am very cold, my hands are so frozen I can

> barely type, yet my cheeks

> are burning. This typically happens early in the day

> and get better later

> on. On those ocassions, the red in my face becomes

> more noticable.

> especially in the patch on the left cheek.

> Same thing happened to me on Saturday - I was in my

> car, there was a nice

> sunshine, the car was nicely warm but not overheated

> - all of sudden I could

> feel the fire in my cheeks and when I looked in the

> mirror, the patch on my

> left cheek was not red, but almost purplish.

> However, these episodes come

> and go, but I wish I could control them better.

> Otherwise, my skin has none

> of those sensations that troubled me a week ago -

> the burning, the tingling,

> the itching.

>

> Alena

>

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[Guest guest]

i've been thinking too about the " mediterranean

diet " and in addition to the sunshine, red

wine(or alcohol at all) comments, I think that

that way of eating could potentially be quite

high in carbohydrates. i have not found it is

simply just sugar, but " sugars " in the food that

makes the difference in how my skin looks For

example, most dairy products are high in

" sugars " .

i would, just out of curiousity, be interested in

what a typical week's menu for these Croatians

would be!

just a though,

carrie

--- Alena Coufalova alena@...> wrote:

> Matija mentioned that there seemed to be a

> large number of people affected

> by rosacea on the island her family came from.

> It is true that they probably

> ate typical Mediterranean diet which is

> considered to be quite healthy; on

> the other hand, I was also thinking they were

> receiving a large dose of

> sunshine, at a time when there was no

> sunscreen or sunblock available.

> There are also two other factors - red wine is

> very popular in Croatia, and

> I would assume that tomatoes were significantly

> represented in their diet.

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[Guest guest]

i've been thinking too about the " mediterranean

diet " and in addition to the sunshine, red

wine(or alcohol at all) comments, I think that

that way of eating could potentially be quite

high in carbohydrates. i have not found it is

simply just sugar, but " sugars " in the food that

makes the difference in how my skin looks For

example, most dairy products are high in

" sugars " .

i would, just out of curiousity, be interested in

what a typical week's menu for these Croatians

would be!

just a though,

carrie

--- Alena Coufalova alena@...> wrote:

> Matija mentioned that there seemed to be a

> large number of people affected

> by rosacea on the island her family came from.

> It is true that they probably

> ate typical Mediterranean diet which is

> considered to be quite healthy; on

> the other hand, I was also thinking they were

> receiving a large dose of

> sunshine, at a time when there was no

> sunscreen or sunblock available.

> There are also two other factors - red wine is

> very popular in Croatia, and

> I would assume that tomatoes were significantly

> represented in their diet.

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[Guest guest]

I can't eat raw tomatoes, or other foods in their

family. No raw onions, raw peppers, raw eggplant, etc.

Suzi

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[Guest guest]

I can't eat raw tomatoes, or other foods in their

family. No raw onions, raw peppers, raw eggplant, etc.

Suzi

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[Guest guest]

I can't eat raw tomatoes, or other foods in their

family. No raw onions, raw peppers, raw eggplant, etc.

Suzi

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[Guest guest]

Hi Alena,

Yes, there were tomatoes, but only available in season for a month or

two. I have to ask my mom if they canned tomato sauce or if they

dried tomatoes. About red wine, I remember having homemade wine when

I was there and it was white. I remember you could buy red wine at

the store, but I never remember having or seeing homemade red wine.

I'll have to ask my mom or dad. About the wine itself, the custom is

to have half a glass with dinner and fill the other half of the glass

with water. If you're thirsty for more, you have to have water or

you'll get chided for drinking too much. You're not supposed to have

more than that. I don't know if the custom was because they didn't

have much of it in the old days to go around or if it's societal

pressure against too much drinking.

My family is from the NW part of the country, by the islands of Pag

and Losinj for those who know where those are (and I realize those

references are very obscure). It's sunny and hot (around 80-85 during

the summers), but the other seasons are fairly cool. When it's winter

it snows and the days are very short.

Women and children had to work out in the fields. Men didn't have to

work much - hunting or fishing - but not every day. Also, people

stayed indoors and took naps from after lunch to about 3-4pm.

About tomatoes being a trigger, they aren't for me, but are for some.

I think you just have to test them out for yourself to see.

Thanks for the compliment about the Adriatic coast. It is very

beautiful. I wish I could be there right now.

Take care,

Matija

> Matija mentioned that there seemed to be a large number of people

affected

> by rosacea on the island her family came from. It is true that they

probably

> ate typical Mediterranean diet which is considered to be quite

healthy; on

> the other hand, I was also thinking they were receiving a large

dose of

> sunshine, at a time when there was no sunscreen or sunblock

available.

> There are also two other factors - red wine is very popular in

Croatia, and

> I would assume that tomatoes were significantly represented in

their diet.

> When I was diaganosed with rosacea 8 years ago, my derm told me that

> tomatoes are triggers. Yet I did not see them mention in any of the

archive

> files. Is it still true? Are tomatoes triggers? I also believe that

the list

> I was given at that time, mentioned chocolate (which I can live

very easily

> without, unlike most people) and ice cream. Can anyone comment on

this?

> (and by the way, Matija, I think that the Adriatic coast is one of

the most

> beautiful places on this Earth).

>

> Since my flare up, I am back on tetracycline (less than a week) and

I stuck

> to my cabbage regimen every night, with the exception of one, when

laziness

> got the better of me). Already on Saturday, I could say that the

one cheek

> and the chin are completely back to their normal colour - no sign of

> redness. My left cheek, which was significantly worse, is still

showing a

> circular patchin the middle, about an inch in diameter, which seems

to be

> the epicentrum of my rosacea. No more breakouts though, the skin is

smooth

> though the patch is still visible. I am not wearing any foundation

at all.

> I wish I could figure how to control flushing. I am not sure if I

mentioned

> this in my last post, but I am usually very cold at work (sit at the

> computer all day) and in spite of wearing a thick sweater, I

have " attacks "

> when I am very cold, my hands are so frozen I can barely type, yet

my cheeks

> are burning. This typically happens early in the day and get better

later

> on. On those ocassions, the red in my face becomes more noticable.

> especially in the patch on the left cheek.

> Same thing happened to me on Saturday - I was in my car, there was

a nice

> sunshine, the car was nicely warm but not overheated - all of

sudden I could

> feel the fire in my cheeks and when I looked in the mirror, the

patch on my

> left cheek was not red, but almost purplish. However, these

episodes come

> and go, but I wish I could control them better. Otherwise, my skin

has none

> of those sensations that troubled me a week ago - the burning, the

tingling,

> the itching.

>

> Alena