Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 Snip> On another related note, I think it's important to recognize that the points of view you express seem to be limited to what " conventional medicine " believes is possible, with " conventional medicine " being at the top of some sort of hierarchy. While conventional medicine does a lot of good , it is certainly not the be all, end all. carrie > Just throwing in my 2 cents, but I have to agree with on this one. While I don't have any qualms about a Dr touting the viewpoints of conventional medicine on the board, I am concerned about the tone of the physician's posts as being " the real deal " soley bec it is traditional medicine. Quite often the posts appear to be dismissive of alternative or " non-clinical " treatments. I worry that many people visiting the board and reading these posts will continue to spin with unsuccessful conventional medical treatments rather than look at overall health improvement and try educate themselves on all treatment options, not just the ones with double blind clinical studies. Not saying that conventional meds doesn't work, but for many rosaceans, it doesn't and we seek answers and solutions in spite of the obstacles. That doesn't deserve condescension, but applause. Drs need to wake up to a new era, you are being questioned, if you don't know, admit it, open your mind, and work with us. As I've said before, this board serves as an excellent medium for getting outside of the box, let's not start drawing lines now. GT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 Snip> On another related note, I think it's important to recognize that the points of view you express seem to be limited to what " conventional medicine " believes is possible, with " conventional medicine " being at the top of some sort of hierarchy. While conventional medicine does a lot of good , it is certainly not the be all, end all. carrie > Just throwing in my 2 cents, but I have to agree with on this one. While I don't have any qualms about a Dr touting the viewpoints of conventional medicine on the board, I am concerned about the tone of the physician's posts as being " the real deal " soley bec it is traditional medicine. Quite often the posts appear to be dismissive of alternative or " non-clinical " treatments. I worry that many people visiting the board and reading these posts will continue to spin with unsuccessful conventional medical treatments rather than look at overall health improvement and try educate themselves on all treatment options, not just the ones with double blind clinical studies. Not saying that conventional meds doesn't work, but for many rosaceans, it doesn't and we seek answers and solutions in spite of the obstacles. That doesn't deserve condescension, but applause. Drs need to wake up to a new era, you are being questioned, if you don't know, admit it, open your mind, and work with us. As I've said before, this board serves as an excellent medium for getting outside of the box, let's not start drawing lines now. GT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 Snip> On another related note, I think it's important to recognize that the points of view you express seem to be limited to what " conventional medicine " believes is possible, with " conventional medicine " being at the top of some sort of hierarchy. While conventional medicine does a lot of good , it is certainly not the be all, end all. carrie > Just throwing in my 2 cents, but I have to agree with on this one. While I don't have any qualms about a Dr touting the viewpoints of conventional medicine on the board, I am concerned about the tone of the physician's posts as being " the real deal " soley bec it is traditional medicine. Quite often the posts appear to be dismissive of alternative or " non-clinical " treatments. I worry that many people visiting the board and reading these posts will continue to spin with unsuccessful conventional medical treatments rather than look at overall health improvement and try educate themselves on all treatment options, not just the ones with double blind clinical studies. Not saying that conventional meds doesn't work, but for many rosaceans, it doesn't and we seek answers and solutions in spite of the obstacles. That doesn't deserve condescension, but applause. Drs need to wake up to a new era, you are being questioned, if you don't know, admit it, open your mind, and work with us. As I've said before, this board serves as an excellent medium for getting outside of the box, let's not start drawing lines now. GT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 It is not that coneventional medicine doesn't work for rosacea, it does. It is that bad conventional medicine does not work for rosacea. I've been formulating a logical treament algorithm for inflammatory rosacea and acne. Here goes. Step one. Discontinue all topicals. Wash bid with cetaphil bar. Accutane 10 mg/d + Zithromax 500 mg loading, 250 qd. Stay out of sun religously, darkly tint automobile windows because no topical sunscreens are permissable at this time. Step two. When clear, and clearing will occur rapidly (definately within 3 months, probably much sooner) stop Zithromax, maintain Accutane 10 mg/d for a cumulative period of six months from the start date of step one. Step three. Remember the most sensitive area of your face, the spot where it was most likely to break out. Maybe its your forhead, maybe its your cheek, or perhaps your chin or jawline. Pick a small part of this sensitive area for further spot testing. Now you have a choice, you can either spot test differin gel (I say differin gel because it is a better formulation than the cream) or noritate cream, depending on your religious beliefs about topical retinoids and antibiotics. If, after two weeks, the spot is better or equal to the surrounding skin, add that topical, if not, forget your religous beliefs and spot test the other topical. Step four. Wean off Accutane with the following schedule. Three months 10 mg/d MWF. Three months 10mg/d SaSu. Then stop. Comments, suggestions, anyone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 It is not that coneventional medicine doesn't work for rosacea, it does. It is that bad conventional medicine does not work for rosacea. I've been formulating a logical treament algorithm for inflammatory rosacea and acne. Here goes. Step one. Discontinue all topicals. Wash bid with cetaphil bar. Accutane 10 mg/d + Zithromax 500 mg loading, 250 qd. Stay out of sun religously, darkly tint automobile windows because no topical sunscreens are permissable at this time. Step two. When clear, and clearing will occur rapidly (definately within 3 months, probably much sooner) stop Zithromax, maintain Accutane 10 mg/d for a cumulative period of six months from the start date of step one. Step three. Remember the most sensitive area of your face, the spot where it was most likely to break out. Maybe its your forhead, maybe its your cheek, or perhaps your chin or jawline. Pick a small part of this sensitive area for further spot testing. Now you have a choice, you can either spot test differin gel (I say differin gel because it is a better formulation than the cream) or noritate cream, depending on your religious beliefs about topical retinoids and antibiotics. If, after two weeks, the spot is better or equal to the surrounding skin, add that topical, if not, forget your religous beliefs and spot test the other topical. Step four. Wean off Accutane with the following schedule. Three months 10 mg/d MWF. Three months 10mg/d SaSu. Then stop. Comments, suggestions, anyone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 It is not that coneventional medicine doesn't work for rosacea, it does. It is that bad conventional medicine does not work for rosacea. I've been formulating a logical treament algorithm for inflammatory rosacea and acne. Here goes. Step one. Discontinue all topicals. Wash bid with cetaphil bar. Accutane 10 mg/d + Zithromax 500 mg loading, 250 qd. Stay out of sun religously, darkly tint automobile windows because no topical sunscreens are permissable at this time. Step two. When clear, and clearing will occur rapidly (definately within 3 months, probably much sooner) stop Zithromax, maintain Accutane 10 mg/d for a cumulative period of six months from the start date of step one. Step three. Remember the most sensitive area of your face, the spot where it was most likely to break out. Maybe its your forhead, maybe its your cheek, or perhaps your chin or jawline. Pick a small part of this sensitive area for further spot testing. Now you have a choice, you can either spot test differin gel (I say differin gel because it is a better formulation than the cream) or noritate cream, depending on your religious beliefs about topical retinoids and antibiotics. If, after two weeks, the spot is better or equal to the surrounding skin, add that topical, if not, forget your religous beliefs and spot test the other topical. Step four. Wean off Accutane with the following schedule. Three months 10 mg/d MWF. Three months 10mg/d SaSu. Then stop. Comments, suggestions, anyone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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