Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 I started taking antiobiocs in jan last year due to rosacea. At that time I didn't have much acne it was more tiny pimples on the nose if I had flushed....I had great skin on antibiotics but after 3 months when I stopped I got acne on my forehead and started the antibiotics again. In dec I cut down to 150g tetralysal once a day, at first my skin was good but after a while my skin got worse so I increased the dose again and when it got better I decreased and so on. Now my skin is really terrible, I have acne on my cheeks and it's only seems to getting worse. Even when I had acne when I was a teenager it wasn't this bad. I have also started taking birth control pills, Desogen(on my second month) but the acen started before that and Desogen shall be good for acne. Several others have stated they got worse acne after stopping antiobiocs, why is that so ? I really want to quit taking antiobiotics when my skin cleard but how ? And why should I tapper off the antibiocs slowly other wise the acne flars up ? Could this be explanations why stopping antiobics the acne gets worse? # Antibiotics mess up the digestive system and if the gut isn't working properly the immune system isn't functiong well = acne ? # Antibiotics kills all bacteria, so the flora naturally present at the skin is not there = acne ? Please post any thougts on this subject, cause antibiotics in the long run is bad and I belive everyone on it wants to stop. And the people who has stopped and have sucsess tell the group how u did !! //Kajsa. _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Kajsa, for the best management advice re-discuss your antibiotic history with the physician or specialist that is helping you manage your skin. It's not clear to me from you post why you were placed on high dose long term antibiotics in the first place, or exactly what is happening to your face now. (That's no fault of your otherwise clear description, it's just part of the complexity of rosacea.) With " great skin " on antibiotics but such a rapid decay off antibiotics, discuss the possibility that the antibiotics are doing something other than helping your rosacea. For example, you may be treating acne that commonly co-exists on rosacean faces. There may be better ways to manage your acne, whether from rosacea or just common acne. Longterm antibiotics is not as dangerous as you suggest, but it certainly isn't optimal therapy unless there are no other choices. A percentage of such users experience significant changes in their bacterial flora, including resistant strains and other microbial infections, that complicate care esp if not recognized. The best way to avoid these complication is to use longterm oral antibiotics only when truly indicated, and to use the lowest possible dosage at a constant blood level. Changing one's doses up and down actually encourages complications. I'm not avoiding giving you advice, it's just not appropriate for me to do so -- it would involve too much guesswork. You need and deserve to be cared for properly by a skilled professional who can see your face and follow its progress over the long term. Your " # " points start off with faulty assumptions, but to answer your core question, most rosaceans on oral antibiotics find adding a topical antibiotic then stopping the orals an effective way to go; however, that would not be the way to go with common acne. I wouldn't think that rosaceans would need to taper oral antibiotics when used for short term management, but I don't know the real answer for long term use. Most rosaceans placed on long term oral antibiotics are on a low dose schedule with plans to continue indefinitely, and those with mild-moderate inflammatory features are generally prescribed antibiotics for short term use only (6-12 weeks). As an aside, some birth control pills may have their contraceptive effectiveness affected by some antibiotics such as tetracyclines, so check that out too with your doctor or pharmacist. Good luck. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > I started taking antiobiocs in jan last year due to > rosacea. At that time I didn't have much acne it was > more tiny pimples on the nose if I had flushed....I > had great skin on antibiotics but after 3 months when > I stopped I got acne on my forehead and started the > antibiotics again. In dec I cut down to 150g > tetralysal once a day, at first my skin was good but > after a while my skin got worse so I increased the > dose again and when it got better I decreased and so > on. Now my skin is really terrible, I have acne on my > cheeks and it's only seems to getting worse. Even when > I had acne when I was a teenager it wasn't this bad. I > have also started taking birth control pills, > Desogen(on my second month) but the acen started > before that and Desogen shall be good for acne. > > Several others have stated they got worse acne after > stopping antiobiocs, why is that so ? I really want to > quit taking antiobiotics when my skin cleard but how ? > And why should I tapper off the antibiocs slowly other > wise the acne flars up ? > > Could this be explanations why stopping antiobics the > acne gets worse? > > # Antibiotics mess up the digestive system and if the > gut isn't working properly the immune system isn't > functiong well = acne ? > > # Antibiotics kills all bacteria, so the flora > naturally present at the skin is not there = acne ? > > Please post any thougts on this subject, cause > antibiotics in the long run is bad and I belive > everyone on it wants to stop. > And the people who has stopped and have sucsess tell > the group how u did !! > > //Kajsa. > > > _____________________________________________________ > Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 > Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Kajsa, for the best management advice re-discuss your antibiotic history with the physician or specialist that is helping you manage your skin. It's not clear to me from you post why you were placed on high dose long term antibiotics in the first place, or exactly what is happening to your face now. (That's no fault of your otherwise clear description, it's just part of the complexity of rosacea.) With " great skin " on antibiotics but such a rapid decay off antibiotics, discuss the possibility that the antibiotics are doing something other than helping your rosacea. For example, you may be treating acne that commonly co-exists on rosacean faces. There may be better ways to manage your acne, whether from rosacea or just common acne. Longterm antibiotics is not as dangerous as you suggest, but it certainly isn't optimal therapy unless there are no other choices. A percentage of such users experience significant changes in their bacterial flora, including resistant strains and other microbial infections, that complicate care esp if not recognized. The best way to avoid these complication is to use longterm oral antibiotics only when truly indicated, and to use the lowest possible dosage at a constant blood level. Changing one's doses up and down actually encourages complications. I'm not avoiding giving you advice, it's just not appropriate for me to do so -- it would involve too much guesswork. You need and deserve to be cared for properly by a skilled professional who can see your face and follow its progress over the long term. Your " # " points start off with faulty assumptions, but to answer your core question, most rosaceans on oral antibiotics find adding a topical antibiotic then stopping the orals an effective way to go; however, that would not be the way to go with common acne. I wouldn't think that rosaceans would need to taper oral antibiotics when used for short term management, but I don't know the real answer for long term use. Most rosaceans placed on long term oral antibiotics are on a low dose schedule with plans to continue indefinitely, and those with mild-moderate inflammatory features are generally prescribed antibiotics for short term use only (6-12 weeks). As an aside, some birth control pills may have their contraceptive effectiveness affected by some antibiotics such as tetracyclines, so check that out too with your doctor or pharmacist. Good luck. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > I started taking antiobiocs in jan last year due to > rosacea. At that time I didn't have much acne it was > more tiny pimples on the nose if I had flushed....I > had great skin on antibiotics but after 3 months when > I stopped I got acne on my forehead and started the > antibiotics again. In dec I cut down to 150g > tetralysal once a day, at first my skin was good but > after a while my skin got worse so I increased the > dose again and when it got better I decreased and so > on. Now my skin is really terrible, I have acne on my > cheeks and it's only seems to getting worse. Even when > I had acne when I was a teenager it wasn't this bad. I > have also started taking birth control pills, > Desogen(on my second month) but the acen started > before that and Desogen shall be good for acne. > > Several others have stated they got worse acne after > stopping antiobiocs, why is that so ? I really want to > quit taking antiobiotics when my skin cleard but how ? > And why should I tapper off the antibiocs slowly other > wise the acne flars up ? > > Could this be explanations why stopping antiobics the > acne gets worse? > > # Antibiotics mess up the digestive system and if the > gut isn't working properly the immune system isn't > functiong well = acne ? > > # Antibiotics kills all bacteria, so the flora > naturally present at the skin is not there = acne ? > > Please post any thougts on this subject, cause > antibiotics in the long run is bad and I belive > everyone on it wants to stop. > And the people who has stopped and have sucsess tell > the group how u did !! > > //Kajsa. > > > _____________________________________________________ > Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 > Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Kajsa, for the best management advice re-discuss your antibiotic history with the physician or specialist that is helping you manage your skin. It's not clear to me from you post why you were placed on high dose long term antibiotics in the first place, or exactly what is happening to your face now. (That's no fault of your otherwise clear description, it's just part of the complexity of rosacea.) With " great skin " on antibiotics but such a rapid decay off antibiotics, discuss the possibility that the antibiotics are doing something other than helping your rosacea. For example, you may be treating acne that commonly co-exists on rosacean faces. There may be better ways to manage your acne, whether from rosacea or just common acne. Longterm antibiotics is not as dangerous as you suggest, but it certainly isn't optimal therapy unless there are no other choices. A percentage of such users experience significant changes in their bacterial flora, including resistant strains and other microbial infections, that complicate care esp if not recognized. The best way to avoid these complication is to use longterm oral antibiotics only when truly indicated, and to use the lowest possible dosage at a constant blood level. Changing one's doses up and down actually encourages complications. I'm not avoiding giving you advice, it's just not appropriate for me to do so -- it would involve too much guesswork. You need and deserve to be cared for properly by a skilled professional who can see your face and follow its progress over the long term. Your " # " points start off with faulty assumptions, but to answer your core question, most rosaceans on oral antibiotics find adding a topical antibiotic then stopping the orals an effective way to go; however, that would not be the way to go with common acne. I wouldn't think that rosaceans would need to taper oral antibiotics when used for short term management, but I don't know the real answer for long term use. Most rosaceans placed on long term oral antibiotics are on a low dose schedule with plans to continue indefinitely, and those with mild-moderate inflammatory features are generally prescribed antibiotics for short term use only (6-12 weeks). As an aside, some birth control pills may have their contraceptive effectiveness affected by some antibiotics such as tetracyclines, so check that out too with your doctor or pharmacist. Good luck. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > I started taking antiobiocs in jan last year due to > rosacea. At that time I didn't have much acne it was > more tiny pimples on the nose if I had flushed....I > had great skin on antibiotics but after 3 months when > I stopped I got acne on my forehead and started the > antibiotics again. In dec I cut down to 150g > tetralysal once a day, at first my skin was good but > after a while my skin got worse so I increased the > dose again and when it got better I decreased and so > on. Now my skin is really terrible, I have acne on my > cheeks and it's only seems to getting worse. Even when > I had acne when I was a teenager it wasn't this bad. I > have also started taking birth control pills, > Desogen(on my second month) but the acen started > before that and Desogen shall be good for acne. > > Several others have stated they got worse acne after > stopping antiobiocs, why is that so ? I really want to > quit taking antiobiotics when my skin cleard but how ? > And why should I tapper off the antibiocs slowly other > wise the acne flars up ? > > Could this be explanations why stopping antiobics the > acne gets worse? > > # Antibiotics mess up the digestive system and if the > gut isn't working properly the immune system isn't > functiong well = acne ? > > # Antibiotics kills all bacteria, so the flora > naturally present at the skin is not there = acne ? > > Please post any thougts on this subject, cause > antibiotics in the long run is bad and I belive > everyone on it wants to stop. > And the people who has stopped and have sucsess tell > the group how u did !! > > //Kajsa. > > > _____________________________________________________ > Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 > Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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