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> > > > > Human growth hormones have an effect of smoothing skin out

> and

> > > > making

> > > > > it thicker.I wonder how Gh would help if using post laser

> > > treatment

> > > > > to help the skin the heal? What kind of effect would it

have

> on

> > > > > rosacea? Has anyone here gone thropugh Human growth hormone

> > > therapy?

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on 4/14/02 8:47 AM, nightrun2200 at nightrun2200@... wrote:

> again I feel Gh is safe if monotored properly at any age!!! Blood

> tests will reveal all and the positive effects can be wonderful.Ok as

> far as the melanotan well

For anyone that may be interested in reading a bit more about HGH (and

melatonin too), check out this book:

" Natural Hormone Balance for Women "

By Uzzi Reiss, md, ob gyn

He's been treating with HGH for years with excellent results evidently. He

also feels that it is safe if used properly, etc. He says he himself has

used it for years. To me this is one of those area that one must be cautious

in, however if you're interested in the subject of hormone treatment in

general this book is informative. (He has others as well that don't focus on

female hormones.)

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Just to let you know, someone in my family had a slow-growing tumor

in them for over 25 years. The reason the doctors knew this was

because they had taken out a malignant tumor at the same site 25

years before. The doc who did the first surgery didn't catch all the

cancer cells and left some in. If this person had taken HGH perhaps

the tumor would have grown faster and become more aggressive and

metastasized. If that was the case, the person would have died.

Cancer is not something you want to fool around with. That particular

cancer (breast cancer) is not one you can catch with a blood test.

Even if you can catch something with a blood test (prostate cancer,

leukemia, non-Hodgkins lymphoma), how often will you take the tests

and will your insurance pay for them if you're the one who wanted to

take the HGH in the first place? Probably not. These types of blood

tests are very expensive. As well, cancer can be extremely aggressive

and spread fast. Once a month testing may not be enough to catch

whatever disease you're looking for. It might be too late.

This is not a good idea. I have a lot of cancer in my family. I've

seen people die painful deaths and have seen young lives cut short.

Don't take anything that may have the slightest chance in causing

malignant cells to grow and multiply. If you're cavalier with your

health, it may cost you more than you bargained for in the long run.

Take care,

Matija

>

> > again I feel Gh is safe if monotored properly at any age!!! Blood

> > tests will reveal all and the positive effects can be wonderful.

>

> You're aware that " blood tests " can't reveal what we don't know to

> look for, and they sure can't reveal cancer that will develop 10

> years in the future.

>

> > Ok as

> > far as the melanotan well

> > I spoke personally to a patient involved in the clinical trials

and

> > only a small percentage of trial participants flusshed and even

> > then it was only for a few minutes,

>

> For non-rosaceans it may be only a minor flush. But for many

> rosaceans, a minor flush often turns into a major flush, if not an

> actual trigger.

>

> Nightrun, can you explain why you think melatonin products may be

> helpful to rosaceans? Are you thinking that tanned skin is less

> sensitive to the sun, and so better for rosaceans than using

> sunblock -- and melatonin is one way to obtain tanned skin without

> being out in the sun? (I understand the theoretical link between

> tanned skin and protecting against skin cancer, but not rosacea.)

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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Just to let you know, someone in my family had a slow-growing tumor

in them for over 25 years. The reason the doctors knew this was

because they had taken out a malignant tumor at the same site 25

years before. The doc who did the first surgery didn't catch all the

cancer cells and left some in. If this person had taken HGH perhaps

the tumor would have grown faster and become more aggressive and

metastasized. If that was the case, the person would have died.

Cancer is not something you want to fool around with. That particular

cancer (breast cancer) is not one you can catch with a blood test.

Even if you can catch something with a blood test (prostate cancer,

leukemia, non-Hodgkins lymphoma), how often will you take the tests

and will your insurance pay for them if you're the one who wanted to

take the HGH in the first place? Probably not. These types of blood

tests are very expensive. As well, cancer can be extremely aggressive

and spread fast. Once a month testing may not be enough to catch

whatever disease you're looking for. It might be too late.

This is not a good idea. I have a lot of cancer in my family. I've

seen people die painful deaths and have seen young lives cut short.

Don't take anything that may have the slightest chance in causing

malignant cells to grow and multiply. If you're cavalier with your

health, it may cost you more than you bargained for in the long run.

Take care,

Matija

>

> > again I feel Gh is safe if monotored properly at any age!!! Blood

> > tests will reveal all and the positive effects can be wonderful.

>

> You're aware that " blood tests " can't reveal what we don't know to

> look for, and they sure can't reveal cancer that will develop 10

> years in the future.

>

> > Ok as

> > far as the melanotan well

> > I spoke personally to a patient involved in the clinical trials

and

> > only a small percentage of trial participants flusshed and even

> > then it was only for a few minutes,

>

> For non-rosaceans it may be only a minor flush. But for many

> rosaceans, a minor flush often turns into a major flush, if not an

> actual trigger.

>

> Nightrun, can you explain why you think melatonin products may be

> helpful to rosaceans? Are you thinking that tanned skin is less

> sensitive to the sun, and so better for rosaceans than using

> sunblock -- and melatonin is one way to obtain tanned skin without

> being out in the sun? (I understand the theoretical link between

> tanned skin and protecting against skin cancer, but not rosacea.)

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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Just to let you know, someone in my family had a slow-growing tumor

in them for over 25 years. The reason the doctors knew this was

because they had taken out a malignant tumor at the same site 25

years before. The doc who did the first surgery didn't catch all the

cancer cells and left some in. If this person had taken HGH perhaps

the tumor would have grown faster and become more aggressive and

metastasized. If that was the case, the person would have died.

Cancer is not something you want to fool around with. That particular

cancer (breast cancer) is not one you can catch with a blood test.

Even if you can catch something with a blood test (prostate cancer,

leukemia, non-Hodgkins lymphoma), how often will you take the tests

and will your insurance pay for them if you're the one who wanted to

take the HGH in the first place? Probably not. These types of blood

tests are very expensive. As well, cancer can be extremely aggressive

and spread fast. Once a month testing may not be enough to catch

whatever disease you're looking for. It might be too late.

This is not a good idea. I have a lot of cancer in my family. I've

seen people die painful deaths and have seen young lives cut short.

Don't take anything that may have the slightest chance in causing

malignant cells to grow and multiply. If you're cavalier with your

health, it may cost you more than you bargained for in the long run.

Take care,

Matija

>

> > again I feel Gh is safe if monotored properly at any age!!! Blood

> > tests will reveal all and the positive effects can be wonderful.

>

> You're aware that " blood tests " can't reveal what we don't know to

> look for, and they sure can't reveal cancer that will develop 10

> years in the future.

>

> > Ok as

> > far as the melanotan well

> > I spoke personally to a patient involved in the clinical trials

and

> > only a small percentage of trial participants flusshed and even

> > then it was only for a few minutes,

>

> For non-rosaceans it may be only a minor flush. But for many

> rosaceans, a minor flush often turns into a major flush, if not an

> actual trigger.

>

> Nightrun, can you explain why you think melatonin products may be

> helpful to rosaceans? Are you thinking that tanned skin is less

> sensitive to the sun, and so better for rosaceans than using

> sunblock -- and melatonin is one way to obtain tanned skin without

> being out in the sun? (I understand the theoretical link between

> tanned skin and protecting against skin cancer, but not rosacea.)

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

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