Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 , you mean you need permission to cough in school???? and to use the bathroom? Sound draconian to me. CF school pamphlet & 504 plans If you still need to find a pamphlet for your school or care giver, try the CF Foundation. Our Cf Center has pamphlets made just for schools telling them what they need to know about CF and our kids. I believe these came from the CF Foundation and I think you can even get a print out of it off their website cff.org Hope you find what you are looking for. As a teacher I can tell you that 504 plans work. It makes accomodations (for coughing, using the restrooms, makeup work etc.) not just a personal favor but a legal necessity. You get to sit donw with your childs teachers and explain what needs to happen and why. It really does help! Believe me, when my daughter starts school she will have a 504 plan! Have a great night! Mom to hannah, almost 3 wcf and Tommy 5 1/2 w/ ashma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Dear list mates, A few moms privately wrote asking more questions about other health impaired/504 plans. I know people are often shy asking questions on lists, so I thought maybe a few others also still had questions but were shy about asking. I know if you don't yet have kids in school, then these terms sound confusing, and it's easy to understand why. In the past, I was an advocate -- helping parents and school administrators figure out accommodation issues. Some parents thought that a 504 was a program that you enroll your child and wait for the school to contact you. Some thought that getting a 504 just involved signing a form letter, which then entitled your child to every program or accomodation imaginable. Whether your child has a 504 or an Other Health Impaired (OHI) plan, you are the one creating the plan. The beauty of it is that it is customized just for your child. In a way, it tells whatever story you want it to tell about your child. There isn't any check list or form letter, unless your school gets creative and designs a form so all you have to do is fill in the blanks and sign on the dotted line. To help some moms understand, I sent them a copy of the OHI plan that I created with my son's wonderful school nurse. One mom responded that this helped her finally see what goes into a plan, and she suggested I share it with the list. I hope this makes it easier to see that you can use any wording you choose. This is your child's plan, and it is very unique to your child and his/her situation. Don't be afraid to be creative and specific! It can be as short or long as you like. My son's plan mainly dealt with the sensitivity issues of CF. I never wanted him to feel different because of CF; however, the plan was primarily written to help teachers and staff recognize a potential health crisis and know the steps to take. I didn't worry about accomodating academic issues in the plan -- he was a strong student and didn't need academic assistance or accomodations, even during the times he missed days due to hospitalization and mono. Kim Mom to (23 with asthma and cf) and (asthma no cf) Mom at heart, but educator and writer/editor by profession ------------------------------ Hi, First, I always recommend that before parents meet with school officials that they create a list, asking themselves questions such as: 1) Based upon my child's chronic health issues, will my child need any specific physical, emotional, and academic assistance and/or accommodations to help him meet expectations and goals of the school? 2) If so, what type assistance and/or accommodations will help my child function well in school? 3) In times of ill-health, how do I see the school helping my child meet his academic goals? 4) If a medical emergency arises at school, how do I want school officials to handle it? (And do I know the school's medical emergency policy?) 5) If a problem comes up that affects my child, and the school does not take immediate corrective action, do I know the steps to take -- and what timeframe I am willing to give the school in order to meet compliance? 5) What steps am I prepared to take if the school does not comply within the allotted time? Second, before the first day of school, the school nurse and I collaborated by phone to update my son's OHI plan. Then, sometime within the first 10 days after school started, I attended a meeting with the school nurse, the school counselor, the principal, and each of his teachers. Each of us were given a copy of the recently revised OHI plan. This was an opportunity for teachers to satisfy their curiosity -- ask questions about my son and CF, and for me to address any concerns. Note: Each situation is different because of your child's health, but I never held this meeting before the start of the school year because I wanted teachers to have an opportunity to meet my son without the CF label. We always waited about 10 days into the school year to have this meeting. Please note that all information in your child's file is confidential and only parties with a need-to-know basis will have access to the file. People viewing your child's records must sign the file, stating the date and reason they are viewing the file. Below is the OHI plan that the school nurse and I wrote for my son. The language is *very specific* because I was sensitive that my son *not* be singled out in class due to CF. I wanted teachers to be aware that CF wasn't an open book to -- he is private, and he would disclose whatever he felt was appropriate IF he needed to. He has always been this way, and I respect his need and right to be treated like any other student as much as possible. Confidential Other Health Impaired Plan Student: Payne Payne is a student in your classroom. has cystic fibrosis and asthma. He is private and selective in disclosing information about his health. may need extra time getting to class, especially where stairs are involved, and should not be penalized for tardiness. He is a rule player and will not take advantage of the situation. needs to drink plenty of water. He may need to stop on the way to class or be excused from class to get a drink. Again, he can be trusted to not take advantage of the situation. At certain times of the year, 's cough may increase due to allergies. may try to stifle his cough. You might quietly approach to see if he would like to go to the restroom to cough out the phlegm or get a drink of water. [Note: Because likes to be unobtrusive, he often stifles a cough, which isn't good. The above suggests to teachers how they can unobtrusively intervene to help him. Because was an obedient kid, I knew if a teacher approached him this way, he would be open to their suggestion.] Changes in 's cough could signal an exacerbation or an emergency, these include a frequent tickling cough that may stifle, or a barking cough. An immediate emergency exists if you notice the following: Paleness, with blueness of the lips and nailbeds A cough that produces blood He tells you, " I can't breathe, " " My chest hurts, " or I need to call home. " Again, can be trusted to tell you what he needs. If he says he needs help, he does! If is able to walk, buzz the office to alert them, and have another student accompany to the office. Students familiar with 's CF and have a comforting effect on him are Mark Simpson and Lindsey. If they are in your class at this time with , you may send them to the office with , or you can request they be called from another class to wait with in the office. Their parents have given permission. " Next, a separate page at the back of the OHI gave emergency procedures: Call Mom at the following numbers: Home....... Work....... Cell........ If she is not available, call the following: Friend:......... Friend:.......... Grandmother:.......... Father:............ [Note: The reason for this order is that 's dad is a dairy farmer and was never near a phone except during the noon hour. 's paternal grandmother lived down the road from us, and was always home near her phone, but she and 's dad truly freak out in medical emergencies so are basically useless. The two friends I listed were much better with medical emergencies and could be trusted to keep a watchful eye in the ER or doctor's office until I arrived.] Based on school policy, I signed a form that was kept in the back of the OHI giving the office permission to transport by ambulance in case I wasn't available -- or in case I deemed the emergency was such that he needed immediate transport instead of me going to the school. I could really count on the school nurse; she was an angel. There were a couple times that I felt needed to stay home but he loved school so much he'd beg to go. So I'd call the nurse and tell her " We're on alert status, " and she'd immediately go into action. She would fax an alert to his teachers, counselors, and principal that basically said: Confidential (this was always in big, bold letters) ALERT (this was always printed in HUGE letters -- about 20 point font) Student: Payne 's mother called this morning to say is experiencing some respiratory distress. He is on alert status until further notice. Refer to his OHI plan, monitor for any changes in his health and follow emergency procedures if needed. If you have questions or concerns, call me or you may reach his mother at.......... The nurse would make a copy and send it home with ; I'd sign it, make a copy and send it back so we'd have clear record of the request. When 's health stabilized, I'd call her again to let her know the alert was off, and she'd make a note of the phone conversation in his file. For , the two times we used this health alert was 1) when his doctor dumped a high dose of Prednisone into and it made him sick for a week, but stubbornly refused to give up or give in, and 2) caught mono and spent about two weeks in January 1997 sleeping. He'd try to go to school but would barely make it through one class, then come home and sleep the rest of the day and night. I don't remember 's assignments during the time he had mono, but I do know the teachers gave him a long time to complete everything. Thankfully, was an A-B student; many of his teachers said that other kids would come to school with a cold and whine about not getting work done because they didn't feel well, but they said not once did they ever hear complain about his health. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Dear list mates, A few moms privately wrote asking more questions about other health impaired/504 plans. I know people are often shy asking questions on lists, so I thought maybe a few others also still had questions but were shy about asking. I know if you don't yet have kids in school, then these terms sound confusing, and it's easy to understand why. In the past, I was an advocate -- helping parents and school administrators figure out accommodation issues. Some parents thought that a 504 was a program that you enroll your child and wait for the school to contact you. Some thought that getting a 504 just involved signing a form letter, which then entitled your child to every program or accomodation imaginable. Whether your child has a 504 or an Other Health Impaired (OHI) plan, you are the one creating the plan. The beauty of it is that it is customized just for your child. In a way, it tells whatever story you want it to tell about your child. There isn't any check list or form letter, unless your school gets creative and designs a form so all you have to do is fill in the blanks and sign on the dotted line. To help some moms understand, I sent them a copy of the OHI plan that I created with my son's wonderful school nurse. One mom responded that this helped her finally see what goes into a plan, and she suggested I share it with the list. I hope this makes it easier to see that you can use any wording you choose. This is your child's plan, and it is very unique to your child and his/her situation. Don't be afraid to be creative and specific! It can be as short or long as you like. My son's plan mainly dealt with the sensitivity issues of CF. I never wanted him to feel different because of CF; however, the plan was primarily written to help teachers and staff recognize a potential health crisis and know the steps to take. I didn't worry about accomodating academic issues in the plan -- he was a strong student and didn't need academic assistance or accomodations, even during the times he missed days due to hospitalization and mono. Kim Mom to (23 with asthma and cf) and (asthma no cf) Mom at heart, but educator and writer/editor by profession ------------------------------ Hi, First, I always recommend that before parents meet with school officials that they create a list, asking themselves questions such as: 1) Based upon my child's chronic health issues, will my child need any specific physical, emotional, and academic assistance and/or accommodations to help him meet expectations and goals of the school? 2) If so, what type assistance and/or accommodations will help my child function well in school? 3) In times of ill-health, how do I see the school helping my child meet his academic goals? 4) If a medical emergency arises at school, how do I want school officials to handle it? (And do I know the school's medical emergency policy?) 5) If a problem comes up that affects my child, and the school does not take immediate corrective action, do I know the steps to take -- and what timeframe I am willing to give the school in order to meet compliance? 5) What steps am I prepared to take if the school does not comply within the allotted time? Second, before the first day of school, the school nurse and I collaborated by phone to update my son's OHI plan. Then, sometime within the first 10 days after school started, I attended a meeting with the school nurse, the school counselor, the principal, and each of his teachers. Each of us were given a copy of the recently revised OHI plan. This was an opportunity for teachers to satisfy their curiosity -- ask questions about my son and CF, and for me to address any concerns. Note: Each situation is different because of your child's health, but I never held this meeting before the start of the school year because I wanted teachers to have an opportunity to meet my son without the CF label. We always waited about 10 days into the school year to have this meeting. Please note that all information in your child's file is confidential and only parties with a need-to-know basis will have access to the file. People viewing your child's records must sign the file, stating the date and reason they are viewing the file. Below is the OHI plan that the school nurse and I wrote for my son. The language is *very specific* because I was sensitive that my son *not* be singled out in class due to CF. I wanted teachers to be aware that CF wasn't an open book to -- he is private, and he would disclose whatever he felt was appropriate IF he needed to. He has always been this way, and I respect his need and right to be treated like any other student as much as possible. Confidential Other Health Impaired Plan Student: Payne Payne is a student in your classroom. has cystic fibrosis and asthma. He is private and selective in disclosing information about his health. may need extra time getting to class, especially where stairs are involved, and should not be penalized for tardiness. He is a rule player and will not take advantage of the situation. needs to drink plenty of water. He may need to stop on the way to class or be excused from class to get a drink. Again, he can be trusted to not take advantage of the situation. At certain times of the year, 's cough may increase due to allergies. may try to stifle his cough. You might quietly approach to see if he would like to go to the restroom to cough out the phlegm or get a drink of water. [Note: Because likes to be unobtrusive, he often stifles a cough, which isn't good. The above suggests to teachers how they can unobtrusively intervene to help him. Because was an obedient kid, I knew if a teacher approached him this way, he would be open to their suggestion.] Changes in 's cough could signal an exacerbation or an emergency, these include a frequent tickling cough that may stifle, or a barking cough. An immediate emergency exists if you notice the following: Paleness, with blueness of the lips and nailbeds A cough that produces blood He tells you, " I can't breathe, " " My chest hurts, " or I need to call home. " Again, can be trusted to tell you what he needs. If he says he needs help, he does! If is able to walk, buzz the office to alert them, and have another student accompany to the office. Students familiar with 's CF and have a comforting effect on him are Mark Simpson and Lindsey. If they are in your class at this time with , you may send them to the office with , or you can request they be called from another class to wait with in the office. Their parents have given permission. " Next, a separate page at the back of the OHI gave emergency procedures: Call Mom at the following numbers: Home....... Work....... Cell........ If she is not available, call the following: Friend:......... Friend:.......... Grandmother:.......... Father:............ [Note: The reason for this order is that 's dad is a dairy farmer and was never near a phone except during the noon hour. 's paternal grandmother lived down the road from us, and was always home near her phone, but she and 's dad truly freak out in medical emergencies so are basically useless. The two friends I listed were much better with medical emergencies and could be trusted to keep a watchful eye in the ER or doctor's office until I arrived.] Based on school policy, I signed a form that was kept in the back of the OHI giving the office permission to transport by ambulance in case I wasn't available -- or in case I deemed the emergency was such that he needed immediate transport instead of me going to the school. I could really count on the school nurse; she was an angel. There were a couple times that I felt needed to stay home but he loved school so much he'd beg to go. So I'd call the nurse and tell her " We're on alert status, " and she'd immediately go into action. She would fax an alert to his teachers, counselors, and principal that basically said: Confidential (this was always in big, bold letters) ALERT (this was always printed in HUGE letters -- about 20 point font) Student: Payne 's mother called this morning to say is experiencing some respiratory distress. He is on alert status until further notice. Refer to his OHI plan, monitor for any changes in his health and follow emergency procedures if needed. If you have questions or concerns, call me or you may reach his mother at.......... The nurse would make a copy and send it home with ; I'd sign it, make a copy and send it back so we'd have clear record of the request. When 's health stabilized, I'd call her again to let her know the alert was off, and she'd make a note of the phone conversation in his file. For , the two times we used this health alert was 1) when his doctor dumped a high dose of Prednisone into and it made him sick for a week, but stubbornly refused to give up or give in, and 2) caught mono and spent about two weeks in January 1997 sleeping. He'd try to go to school but would barely make it through one class, then come home and sleep the rest of the day and night. I don't remember 's assignments during the time he had mono, but I do know the teachers gave him a long time to complete everything. Thankfully, was an A-B student; many of his teachers said that other kids would come to school with a cold and whine about not getting work done because they didn't feel well, but they said not once did they ever hear complain about his health. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 Vondie, If you have not talked to the teachers personally yet..I would start there. Did you give them the CF School Pamphlet??? If you have talked to them and still get no results I would ask for another 504 meeting with the counselor and teachers and stress that it is important and it IS THE LAW! Some teachers just refuse to be cooperative and at that point I would forget about tact and get right to the point. They are legally bound to follow the 504!!! Good luck! > , > Since you are a teacher maybe you can help me with how to deal with this. My sons have multiple teachers (8+) they change classes all day long. We only have problems with a few. The boys have a 504 plan which says they can leave class for bathroom, nurse, etc... But, we still run into some of the teachers that won't let them go to bathroom, nurse, etc.... We also have in the plan about lessening the make up work when they are gone for more than a few days, but we still run into piles of work to be made up, which by the way is VERY hard to get done in between all the treatments, etc... When they are sick the regular schedule is all messed up anyway, change in #'s of times a day, more meds, etc.... > Most of the teachers are very understanding. So, is there a tactful way of bringing up the issue without them feeling that I am attacking them? > Vondie > CF school pamphlet & 504 plans > > > If you still need to find a pamphlet for your school or care giver, > try the CF Foundation. Our Cf Center has pamphlets made just for > schools telling them what they need to know about CF and our kids. I > believe these came from the CF Foundation and I think you can even > get a print out of it off their website cff.org > > Hope you find what you are looking for. As a teacher I can tell you > that 504 plans work. It makes accomodations (for coughing, using the > restrooms, makeup work etc.) not just a personal favor but a legal > necessity. You get to sit donw with your childs teachers and explain > what needs to happen and why. It really does help! Believe me, when > my daughter starts school she will have a 504 plan! > > Have a great night! > > Mom to hannah, almost 3 wcf and Tommy 5 1/2 w/ ashma > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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