Re: Question for Gertrude or anybody else about enzymes/Anybody have problem with SCD safe peanut butter causing bizzare behavior?

[Guest guest]

Gertrude,

This explains so much!!!!!! God Bless you for telling us this. We have only

started using the enzymes for our daughter KiKi and myself...not knowing that he

needed them since his growth is fine. They are so expensive...but we will do

what we have to do. Does my husband and adopted daughter need enzymes also?

Adopted daughter is coming out of cerebral palsy (hyperekplexia) and my

husband...well he is ADD also?

Antoinette (Entire Family SCD day 18)

Re: Anybody have problem with SCD safe peanut butter

causing bizzare behavior?

Out of all the nuts and nutbutters, peanut butter is the worst for autistic or

adhd children. There's two fold problems.

1) High Phenols

2) aflatoxins

Aflatoxins are the byproducts of a fungus that prefers peanuts. They strain

the body in the excretion, using body reserves of glutathione, stressing the

liver, and strain the whole body like any toxin or heavy metal exposure.

And of course, high phenols. At least with almonds, even though medium

phenolic content, as the body starts healing, over time there will be a bigger

tolerance. Almonds are easily digested otherwise.

We have been using Houston's No-Fenol enzymes, which have helped

tremendously this past year with increasing my son's tolerance for higher phenol

food. Actually, my sons are fine with almonds in moderation now, but we went 8

months with no peanuts (there is no known allergy or sensitivity here), and upon

reintroduction nothing happened, but the second time and on, Hunter started

reacting with hyperactivity as before.

Are you using digestive enzymes? They will help slowly heal these phenol

issues, amongst other attributes.

Summer

kikijabunce ajbunce@...> wrote:

My son has ate half a jar of peanut butter.....we didn't know he

had...he is sneaky. He is now bounceing of the walls....not

listening...back to ADHD like behavior.....

Thanks to the list serve we realized that almonds where not going to

work for us.....now peanuts? What do you guys know? We don't think

we have an allergy......?

Thanks Antoinette,

SCD entire family day 18

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Antoinette,

If it makes you feel any better, my oldest is the sneakiest food stealer

ever...I completely understand this! lol

What enzymes are you taking? Have you read the book " Enzymes for Autism and

Other Neurological Conditions " by DeFelice?

With leaky gut, there are generally less enzymes being produced by the body,

adding additional burden and greater chance of ongoing developing food

sensitivties as a whole.

Finding the right enzyme is the trick. Sometimes some people will have a

reaction to those enzymes that contain bromelain or papain, especially if super

sensitive to citrus. Other enzymes are made by the body, and should be no

problem, depending on the company who makes it.

We are on many enzymes. We take Houston's Peptizyde, HN-Zyme Prime, and

No-Fenol. We have been using the last couple of months BioGestAid II from Still

Water Nutrtionals as a trial, from a local lab. We are also experimenting with

Enzyme Medicas " Virastop " .

Experiementation aside, it was the three Houston's that have worked all the

miracles on us. www.houstonni.com

I just was letting you know what our enzyme history was. I am always keeping

an eye out for other great enzymes, but money prevents me for diving into too

much experimentation. Remember, enzymes build up over time in the body, their

positive effects become more apparent after some time. Die off can happen too.

I can't tell you enough what enzymes have done for us! It is not just staying

away from phenols, it is healing the ability to eat these foods!

They are expensive overall, though, but after I witnessed how they improve

leaky gut, work on yeast issues and phenol issues, they are a necessary

intervention for us. Everytime we eat, we make sure we take them. For a small

snack, we might use part of a capsule.

Both my children and myself use enzymes. I have friends, with no medical

problems who use enzymes just for their ability to scavenge some free radicals

from food.

Read the book! There is also another yahoo chat...enzymes and autism. Great

place, I don't post there, but I check in every once and awhile.

You know, I cannot answer if the rest of your family could use enzymes, but if

you think so, and they react well to it, then go for it! It is only going to

decrease some gut bugs and increase absorption and clean waste material out of

the blood, no bad side effects unless you take too much and have a huge die off!

Summer

Gertrude,

This explains so much!!!!!! God Bless you for telling us this. We have only

started using the enzymes for our daughter KiKi and myself...not knowing that he

needed them since his growth is fine. They are so expensive...but we will do

what we have to do. Does my husband and adopted daughter need enzymes also?

Adopted daughter is coming out of cerebral palsy (hyperekplexia) and my

husband...well he is ADD also?

Antoinette (Entire Family SCD day 18)

Re: Anybody have problem with SCD safe peanut butter

causing bizzare behavior?

Out of all the nuts and nutbutters, peanut butter is the worst for autistic or

adhd children. There's two fold problems.

1) High Phenols

2) aflatoxins

Aflatoxins are the byproducts of a fungus that prefers peanuts. They strain

the body in the excretion, using body reserves of glutathione, stressing the

liver, and strain the whole body like any toxin or heavy metal exposure.

And of course, high phenols. At least with almonds, even though medium

phenolic content, as the body starts healing, over time there will be a bigger

tolerance. Almonds are easily digested otherwise.

We have been using Houston's No-Fenol enzymes, which have helped

tremendously this past year with increasing my son's tolerance for higher phenol

food. Actually, my sons are fine with almonds in moderation now, but we went 8

months with no peanuts (there is no known allergy or sensitivity here), and upon

reintroduction nothing happened, but the second time and on, Hunter started

reacting with hyperactivity as before.

Are you using digestive enzymes? They will help slowly heal these phenol

issues, amongst other attributes.

Summer

kikijabunce ajbunce@...> wrote:

My son has ate half a jar of peanut butter.....we didn't know he

had...he is sneaky. He is now bounceing of the walls....not

listening...back to ADHD like behavior.....

Thanks to the list serve we realized that almonds where not going to

work for us.....now peanuts? What do you guys know? We don't think

we have an allergy......?

Thanks Antoinette,

SCD entire family day 18

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Summer;

I also use Houston's Peptizyde and No-Fenol. I was thinking about adding

Zyme-Prime to the mix. In your experience, all 3 enzyme formulations together

get the best result? And how many capsules per meal of each enzyme do you take?

Hope this isn't too off topic...

Thanks,

Kim :-)

Pre SCD (3 yo ASD, 2 yo NT)

[Guest guest]

Summer;

I also use Houston's Peptizyde and No-Fenol. I was thinking about adding

Zyme-Prime to the mix. In your experience, all 3 enzyme formulations together

get the best result? And how many capsules per meal of each enzyme do you take?

Hope this isn't too off topic...

Thanks,

Kim :-)

Pre SCD (3 yo ASD, 2 yo NT)

[Guest guest]

Summer;

I also use Houston's Peptizyde and No-Fenol. I was thinking about adding

Zyme-Prime to the mix. In your experience, all 3 enzyme formulations together

get the best result? And how many capsules per meal of each enzyme do you take?

Hope this isn't too off topic...

Thanks,

Kim :-)

Pre SCD (3 yo ASD, 2 yo NT)

[Guest guest]

Enzymes can cause die-off in the beginning, so start small, slow

> and work up when introducing new ones. I generally use one of each

> for each meal, or smaller amounts sometimes for snacks. Sometimes, I

> use two of each for my sons, especially if I feel they had an

> illegal or whatnot. Taking enzymes are an empty stomach between

> meals will work on knocking back yeasts and various pathogens.

>

Would you have other sources of info about enzymes for non-spectrum kids?

My son has Crohn's and I wonder if this could help him. Thanks and take

care, Fay

[Guest guest]

Enzymes can cause die-off in the beginning, so start small, slow

> and work up when introducing new ones. I generally use one of each

> for each meal, or smaller amounts sometimes for snacks. Sometimes, I

> use two of each for my sons, especially if I feel they had an

> illegal or whatnot. Taking enzymes are an empty stomach between

> meals will work on knocking back yeasts and various pathogens.

>

Would you have other sources of info about enzymes for non-spectrum kids?

My son has Crohn's and I wonder if this could help him. Thanks and take

care, Fay

[Guest guest]

Enzymes can cause die-off in the beginning, so start small, slow

> and work up when introducing new ones. I generally use one of each

> for each meal, or smaller amounts sometimes for snacks. Sometimes, I

> use two of each for my sons, especially if I feel they had an

> illegal or whatnot. Taking enzymes are an empty stomach between

> meals will work on knocking back yeasts and various pathogens.

>

Would you have other sources of info about enzymes for non-spectrum kids?

My son has Crohn's and I wonder if this could help him. Thanks and take

care, Fay