Jump to content
RemedySpot.com

Re: Stigmatization & cea

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Guest guest

Beginning with " the mutant nose of Spain " post, a thread has developed

around stigma, feeling " mutant " , deformed, ashamed, polluted, etc. There is

a lot of good literature on this in the social sciences. It shows up again

and again in cultural anthropology. Sontag wrote a book called

" Illness as Metaphor " , Erving Goffman wrote a book called " Stigma " , and

there are many others that examine how stigma works in various social

settings. Understanding a complicated problem is a good first step towards

developing unique and possibly brilliant coping strategies, or examining

already existing dysfunctional coping strategies.

Re: Water, too much?

>

>

>

> >

> >There is a customer, a young man in his late twenties or

> >early thirties, that comes in to the hardware store where I

> >work who's face is horrifically scarred and distorted. It

> >looks like he was severely burned and his face is totally

> >unrecognizable FOREVER. But he comes in, and it is a very

> >public busy place, and he comes in and does business face to

> >face in depth.

> >

> >A very brave man.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> there's this man i met

> recently

> at a screening of a children's video i was in

> and this man

> is about two and a half or three feet tall

> of course

> everyone stares at him

> treats him like a circus freak

> and yet

> he was one of the kindest

> most magnanimous

> funniest

> and most interesting humans i'd met

> in a long

> long

> time ...

>

> i bet he has a hard time

> being seen as a sexual object

> by the women he sees around him

> day to day ...

>

> and yet he keeps on

> trying.

>

>

> --

> Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

subject when replying to a digest !

>

> See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

>

> To leave the list send an email to

rosacea-support-unsubscribe

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Beginning with " the mutant nose of Spain " post, a thread has developed

around stigma, feeling " mutant " , deformed, ashamed, polluted, etc. There is

a lot of good literature on this in the social sciences. It shows up again

and again in cultural anthropology. Sontag wrote a book called

" Illness as Metaphor " , Erving Goffman wrote a book called " Stigma " , and

there are many others that examine how stigma works in various social

settings. Understanding a complicated problem is a good first step towards

developing unique and possibly brilliant coping strategies, or examining

already existing dysfunctional coping strategies.

Re: Water, too much?

>

>

>

> >

> >There is a customer, a young man in his late twenties or

> >early thirties, that comes in to the hardware store where I

> >work who's face is horrifically scarred and distorted. It

> >looks like he was severely burned and his face is totally

> >unrecognizable FOREVER. But he comes in, and it is a very

> >public busy place, and he comes in and does business face to

> >face in depth.

> >

> >A very brave man.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> there's this man i met

> recently

> at a screening of a children's video i was in

> and this man

> is about two and a half or three feet tall

> of course

> everyone stares at him

> treats him like a circus freak

> and yet

> he was one of the kindest

> most magnanimous

> funniest

> and most interesting humans i'd met

> in a long

> long

> time ...

>

> i bet he has a hard time

> being seen as a sexual object

> by the women he sees around him

> day to day ...

>

> and yet he keeps on

> trying.

>

>

> --

> Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

subject when replying to a digest !

>

> See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

>

> To leave the list send an email to

rosacea-support-unsubscribe

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Beginning with " the mutant nose of Spain " post, a thread has developed

around stigma, feeling " mutant " , deformed, ashamed, polluted, etc. There is

a lot of good literature on this in the social sciences. It shows up again

and again in cultural anthropology. Sontag wrote a book called

" Illness as Metaphor " , Erving Goffman wrote a book called " Stigma " , and

there are many others that examine how stigma works in various social

settings. Understanding a complicated problem is a good first step towards

developing unique and possibly brilliant coping strategies, or examining

already existing dysfunctional coping strategies.

Re: Water, too much?

>

>

>

> >

> >There is a customer, a young man in his late twenties or

> >early thirties, that comes in to the hardware store where I

> >work who's face is horrifically scarred and distorted. It

> >looks like he was severely burned and his face is totally

> >unrecognizable FOREVER. But he comes in, and it is a very

> >public busy place, and he comes in and does business face to

> >face in depth.

> >

> >A very brave man.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> there's this man i met

> recently

> at a screening of a children's video i was in

> and this man

> is about two and a half or three feet tall

> of course

> everyone stares at him

> treats him like a circus freak

> and yet

> he was one of the kindest

> most magnanimous

> funniest

> and most interesting humans i'd met

> in a long

> long

> time ...

>

> i bet he has a hard time

> being seen as a sexual object

> by the women he sees around him

> day to day ...

>

> and yet he keeps on

> trying.

>

>

> --

> Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

subject when replying to a digest !

>

> See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

>

> To leave the list send an email to

rosacea-support-unsubscribe

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Hi all

Just to add a bit to this stigmatization re: rosacea.

I went on a (wait for it!) " Problem Solving Course " a few days ago. My aim

was to get help with a strategy for coping with " unsolvable " problems eg:

such as my terrible flushing problem and also my inability to have a baby no

matter how much I try. Both problems are similar in that you spend a

complete fortune seeing hundreds of doctors and trying hundreds of

treatments and at the end of the day

Result = 0

Bank Balance = - thousands of ££££££££££££££s (oh! & very in the RED!!!)

So, I wasn't looking for a cure (for once!) but just a coping strategy.

When the tutor went around the room asking for who we are and what we hoped

to gain from the course, I stated my requirement of getting a strategy to

cope with unsolvable medical problems (daren't mention " R " or " Infertility "

- as both have quite a nasty stigma attached) and she led me to believe that

" hey, yes we can help you get one of those " .

Anyway, bla, bla, bla, hours later, handouts, great attitude statements,

positive motivation, etc., etc, we hit the subject, as they called it

" Problem Sensing/Awareness " . During this subject we were taught about

identifying people with problems by the physical symptoms they may exhibit -

yes - guess what - people exhibiting " facial discolouration " have problems -

BEWARE!!!! I asked for clarification on this (as I hid a neck flush behind

my big polo neck) and she said that people with problems often blush! go

red! break out in hives! and that it was a way that we could identify

people who have problems by looking at what they were displaying physically.

I wanted to say - hey, people with rosacea have red faces, suffer from

blushing and flushing and THAT is their problem. It is not an indication of

another " mystery " problem. The Red IS the problem. But... alas I didn't

have the energy or the courage (feeling really worn out recently!).

But... what I'm trying to say here is that if the " Self Development "

organisations are educating people these identification techniques then

aren't we doomed or labelled as " that person must have a bad problem " " look

at the rash on her/his neck " " see the way he's blushed " " I don't think we

want a person with a problem working in our organisation " " must be lacking

in confidence - wonder why? " Etc., etc.

Isn't it kind of like - DISCRIMINATION to label red faces as " problem

people " - just because of the colour of our skin?

Needless to say, I felt really down on Saturday night (maybe I'm

overreacting and just tired).

I PRESCRIBED MY OWN TREATMENT: (which worked and involved NO DOCTORS)

(1) Tyson v match

(2) A few World Cup Football matches

and... to finish - the Canadian Grand Prix.

>

>To: aaa@...>, rosacea-support >,

>staceyiseman@...>

>Subject: Re: Stigmatization & cea

>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:24:40 -0700

>

>Beginning with " the mutant nose of Spain " post, a thread has developed

>around stigma, feeling " mutant " , deformed, ashamed, polluted, etc. There is

>a lot of good literature on this in the social sciences. It shows up again

>and again in cultural anthropology. Sontag wrote a book called

> " Illness as Metaphor " , Erving Goffman wrote a book called " Stigma " , and

>there are many others that examine how stigma works in various social

>settings. Understanding a complicated problem is a good first step towards

>developing unique and possibly brilliant coping strategies, or examining

>already existing dysfunctional coping strategies.

>

>

>

> Re: Water, too much?

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >There is a customer, a young man in his late twenties or

> > >early thirties, that comes in to the hardware store where I

> > >work who's face is horrifically scarred and distorted. It

> > >looks like he was severely burned and his face is totally

> > >unrecognizable FOREVER. But he comes in, and it is a very

> > >public busy place, and he comes in and does business face to

> > >face in depth.

> > >

> > >A very brave man.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > there's this man i met

> > recently

> > at a screening of a children's video i was in

> > and this man

> > is about two and a half or three feet tall

> > of course

> > everyone stares at him

> > treats him like a circus freak

> > and yet

> > he was one of the kindest

> > most magnanimous

> > funniest

> > and most interesting humans i'd met

> > in a long

> > long

> > time ...

> >

> > i bet he has a hard time

> > being seen as a sexual object

> > by the women he sees around him

> > day to day ...

> >

> > and yet he keeps on

> > trying.

> >

> >

> > --

> > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

>(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

>give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

>subject when replying to a digest !

> >

> > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

> >

> > To leave the list send an email to

>rosacea-support-unsubscribe

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Hi all

Just to add a bit to this stigmatization re: rosacea.

I went on a (wait for it!) " Problem Solving Course " a few days ago. My aim

was to get help with a strategy for coping with " unsolvable " problems eg:

such as my terrible flushing problem and also my inability to have a baby no

matter how much I try. Both problems are similar in that you spend a

complete fortune seeing hundreds of doctors and trying hundreds of

treatments and at the end of the day

Result = 0

Bank Balance = - thousands of ££££££££££££££s (oh! & very in the RED!!!)

So, I wasn't looking for a cure (for once!) but just a coping strategy.

When the tutor went around the room asking for who we are and what we hoped

to gain from the course, I stated my requirement of getting a strategy to

cope with unsolvable medical problems (daren't mention " R " or " Infertility "

- as both have quite a nasty stigma attached) and she led me to believe that

" hey, yes we can help you get one of those " .

Anyway, bla, bla, bla, hours later, handouts, great attitude statements,

positive motivation, etc., etc, we hit the subject, as they called it

" Problem Sensing/Awareness " . During this subject we were taught about

identifying people with problems by the physical symptoms they may exhibit -

yes - guess what - people exhibiting " facial discolouration " have problems -

BEWARE!!!! I asked for clarification on this (as I hid a neck flush behind

my big polo neck) and she said that people with problems often blush! go

red! break out in hives! and that it was a way that we could identify

people who have problems by looking at what they were displaying physically.

I wanted to say - hey, people with rosacea have red faces, suffer from

blushing and flushing and THAT is their problem. It is not an indication of

another " mystery " problem. The Red IS the problem. But... alas I didn't

have the energy or the courage (feeling really worn out recently!).

But... what I'm trying to say here is that if the " Self Development "

organisations are educating people these identification techniques then

aren't we doomed or labelled as " that person must have a bad problem " " look

at the rash on her/his neck " " see the way he's blushed " " I don't think we

want a person with a problem working in our organisation " " must be lacking

in confidence - wonder why? " Etc., etc.

Isn't it kind of like - DISCRIMINATION to label red faces as " problem

people " - just because of the colour of our skin?

Needless to say, I felt really down on Saturday night (maybe I'm

overreacting and just tired).

I PRESCRIBED MY OWN TREATMENT: (which worked and involved NO DOCTORS)

(1) Tyson v match

(2) A few World Cup Football matches

and... to finish - the Canadian Grand Prix.

>

>To: aaa@...>, rosacea-support >,

>staceyiseman@...>

>Subject: Re: Stigmatization & cea

>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:24:40 -0700

>

>Beginning with " the mutant nose of Spain " post, a thread has developed

>around stigma, feeling " mutant " , deformed, ashamed, polluted, etc. There is

>a lot of good literature on this in the social sciences. It shows up again

>and again in cultural anthropology. Sontag wrote a book called

> " Illness as Metaphor " , Erving Goffman wrote a book called " Stigma " , and

>there are many others that examine how stigma works in various social

>settings. Understanding a complicated problem is a good first step towards

>developing unique and possibly brilliant coping strategies, or examining

>already existing dysfunctional coping strategies.

>

>

>

> Re: Water, too much?

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >There is a customer, a young man in his late twenties or

> > >early thirties, that comes in to the hardware store where I

> > >work who's face is horrifically scarred and distorted. It

> > >looks like he was severely burned and his face is totally

> > >unrecognizable FOREVER. But he comes in, and it is a very

> > >public busy place, and he comes in and does business face to

> > >face in depth.

> > >

> > >A very brave man.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > there's this man i met

> > recently

> > at a screening of a children's video i was in

> > and this man

> > is about two and a half or three feet tall

> > of course

> > everyone stares at him

> > treats him like a circus freak

> > and yet

> > he was one of the kindest

> > most magnanimous

> > funniest

> > and most interesting humans i'd met

> > in a long

> > long

> > time ...

> >

> > i bet he has a hard time

> > being seen as a sexual object

> > by the women he sees around him

> > day to day ...

> >

> > and yet he keeps on

> > trying.

> >

> >

> > --

> > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

>(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

>give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

>subject when replying to a digest !

> >

> > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

> >

> > To leave the list send an email to

>rosacea-support-unsubscribe

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Hi all

Just to add a bit to this stigmatization re: rosacea.

I went on a (wait for it!) " Problem Solving Course " a few days ago. My aim

was to get help with a strategy for coping with " unsolvable " problems eg:

such as my terrible flushing problem and also my inability to have a baby no

matter how much I try. Both problems are similar in that you spend a

complete fortune seeing hundreds of doctors and trying hundreds of

treatments and at the end of the day

Result = 0

Bank Balance = - thousands of ££££££££££££££s (oh! & very in the RED!!!)

So, I wasn't looking for a cure (for once!) but just a coping strategy.

When the tutor went around the room asking for who we are and what we hoped

to gain from the course, I stated my requirement of getting a strategy to

cope with unsolvable medical problems (daren't mention " R " or " Infertility "

- as both have quite a nasty stigma attached) and she led me to believe that

" hey, yes we can help you get one of those " .

Anyway, bla, bla, bla, hours later, handouts, great attitude statements,

positive motivation, etc., etc, we hit the subject, as they called it

" Problem Sensing/Awareness " . During this subject we were taught about

identifying people with problems by the physical symptoms they may exhibit -

yes - guess what - people exhibiting " facial discolouration " have problems -

BEWARE!!!! I asked for clarification on this (as I hid a neck flush behind

my big polo neck) and she said that people with problems often blush! go

red! break out in hives! and that it was a way that we could identify

people who have problems by looking at what they were displaying physically.

I wanted to say - hey, people with rosacea have red faces, suffer from

blushing and flushing and THAT is their problem. It is not an indication of

another " mystery " problem. The Red IS the problem. But... alas I didn't

have the energy or the courage (feeling really worn out recently!).

But... what I'm trying to say here is that if the " Self Development "

organisations are educating people these identification techniques then

aren't we doomed or labelled as " that person must have a bad problem " " look

at the rash on her/his neck " " see the way he's blushed " " I don't think we

want a person with a problem working in our organisation " " must be lacking

in confidence - wonder why? " Etc., etc.

Isn't it kind of like - DISCRIMINATION to label red faces as " problem

people " - just because of the colour of our skin?

Needless to say, I felt really down on Saturday night (maybe I'm

overreacting and just tired).

I PRESCRIBED MY OWN TREATMENT: (which worked and involved NO DOCTORS)

(1) Tyson v match

(2) A few World Cup Football matches

and... to finish - the Canadian Grand Prix.

>

>To: aaa@...>, rosacea-support >,

>staceyiseman@...>

>Subject: Re: Stigmatization & cea

>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:24:40 -0700

>

>Beginning with " the mutant nose of Spain " post, a thread has developed

>around stigma, feeling " mutant " , deformed, ashamed, polluted, etc. There is

>a lot of good literature on this in the social sciences. It shows up again

>and again in cultural anthropology. Sontag wrote a book called

> " Illness as Metaphor " , Erving Goffman wrote a book called " Stigma " , and

>there are many others that examine how stigma works in various social

>settings. Understanding a complicated problem is a good first step towards

>developing unique and possibly brilliant coping strategies, or examining

>already existing dysfunctional coping strategies.

>

>

>

> Re: Water, too much?

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >There is a customer, a young man in his late twenties or

> > >early thirties, that comes in to the hardware store where I

> > >work who's face is horrifically scarred and distorted. It

> > >looks like he was severely burned and his face is totally

> > >unrecognizable FOREVER. But he comes in, and it is a very

> > >public busy place, and he comes in and does business face to

> > >face in depth.

> > >

> > >A very brave man.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > there's this man i met

> > recently

> > at a screening of a children's video i was in

> > and this man

> > is about two and a half or three feet tall

> > of course

> > everyone stares at him

> > treats him like a circus freak

> > and yet

> > he was one of the kindest

> > most magnanimous

> > funniest

> > and most interesting humans i'd met

> > in a long

> > long

> > time ...

> >

> > i bet he has a hard time

> > being seen as a sexual object

> > by the women he sees around him

> > day to day ...

> >

> > and yet he keeps on

> > trying.

> >

> >

> > --

> > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

>(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

>give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

>subject when replying to a digest !

> >

> > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

> >

> > To leave the list send an email to

>rosacea-support-unsubscribe

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

A few months ago, I attended a family dinner and noticed that many of my

middle-aged cousins, and most of my aunts and uncles on my mother's side, are

suffering rosacea to one degree or another.

Beyond this being a disease, I couldn't help thinking that like it or not, it's

a part of who I am. I sure wish I didn't have rosacea, but the fact that my

ancestors somehow dealt with it impresses me a lot.

I'm sure they often felt ugly, horrible, suffered bouts of depression -- or

worse. But the fact they lived their lives the best they could, got on with it,

and didn't give up provides me a great deal of strength.

This strength allows me to respond to rude questions from strangers by telling

them that the reasons for my awful sunburn, red ears or red nose are none of

their effing business.

Leigh Hanlon

Chicago, USA

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Hi. I have participated in many " Personal Development " courses and not

one taught this strategy you have told us about. In fact, most courses

and seminars taught strategies on how to befriend people, how to influence

them and not how to find ways to " pre-judge " them.

I am curious as to the organization that put this " Problem Solving Course "

together as I would like to contact them and educate them on cea. This

sort of " strategy " they are promoting is, in my opinion, useless and insulting

to me - regardless of my cea condition.

-

Re: Stigmatization & cea

>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:24:40 -0700

>

>Beginning with " the mutant nose of Spain " post, a thread has developed

>around stigma, feeling " mutant " , deformed, ashamed, polluted, etc. There is

>a lot of good literature on this in the social sciences. It shows up again

>and again in cultural anthropology. Sontag wrote a book called

> " Illness as Metaphor " , Erving Goffman wrote a book called " Stigma " , and

>there are many others that examine how stigma works in various social

>settings. Understanding a complicated problem is a good first step towards

>developing unique and possibly brilliant coping strategies, or examining

>already existing dysfunctional coping strategies.

>

>

>

> Re: Water, too much?

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >There is a customer, a young man in his late twenties or

> > >early thirties, that comes in to the hardware store where I

> > >work who's face is horrifically scarred and distorted. It

> > >looks like he was severely burned and his face is totally

> > >unrecognizable FOREVER. But he comes in, and it is a very

> > >public busy place, and he comes in and does business face to

> > >face in depth.

> > >

> > >A very brave man.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > there's this man i met

> > recently

> > at a screening of a children's video i was in

> > and this man

> > is about two and a half or three feet tall

> > of course

> > everyone stares at him

> > treats him like a circus freak

> > and yet

> > he was one of the kindest

> > most magnanimous

> > funniest

> > and most interesting humans i'd met

> > in a long

> > long

> > time ...

> >

> > i bet he has a hard time

> > being seen as a sexual object

> > by the women he sees around him

> > day to day ...

> >

> > and yet he keeps on

> > trying.

> >

> >

> > --

> > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

>(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

>give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

>subject when replying to a digest !

> >

> > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

> >

> > To leave the list send an email to

>rosacea-support-unsubscribe

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

If your " tutor " really was professing that red skin/flushing was a marker of

a deeper problem, then he or she needs to receive a verbal spanking.

Selfhelp gurus, in my estimation, are seldom worthy of the attention and

money they ask for. It sounds as though you were understandably annoyed.

I'll try to find some useful links online that deal with social stigma. To

be fair, much of the most brilliant stuff is created by " outsiders " of some

sort or another. There is no simple formula for coping with a stigmatizing

feature (such as rosacea, having black skin in the south during slavery).

It's a very personal thing. Many aren't able to cope with it in a " healthy

way. " Some might become reclusive and, say, focus a remarkable amount of

energy on music, or work. Some might develop a keen sense of humor and

coolheadedness that can transform a perceived defect into a godsend. Some

might become dedicated medical researchers looking for a cure. Some just

give up. etc etc etc

I'll try to post some links soon.

Re: Water, too much?

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >There is a customer, a young man in his late twenties or

> > > >early thirties, that comes in to the hardware store where I

> > > >work who's face is horrifically scarred and distorted. It

> > > >looks like he was severely burned and his face is totally

> > > >unrecognizable FOREVER. But he comes in, and it is a very

> > > >public busy place, and he comes in and does business face to

> > > >face in depth.

> > > >

> > > >A very brave man.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > there's this man i met

> > > recently

> > > at a screening of a children's video i was in

> > > and this man

> > > is about two and a half or three feet tall

> > > of course

> > > everyone stares at him

> > > treats him like a circus freak

> > > and yet

> > > he was one of the kindest

> > > most magnanimous

> > > funniest

> > > and most interesting humans i'd met

> > > in a long

> > > long

> > > time ...

> > >

> > > i bet he has a hard time

> > > being seen as a sexual object

> > > by the women he sees around him

> > > day to day ...

> > >

> > > and yet he keeps on

> > > trying.

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

> >(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

> >give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

> >subject when replying to a digest !

> > >

> > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

> > >

> > > To leave the list send an email to

> >rosacea-support-unsubscribe

> > >

> > >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

>When I was out in the dating world, there were some guys who probably

>didn't talk to me because I had skin problems. There were some guys

>who did though. My rosacea waxed and waned in my 20s. I met guys when

>my skin was bad and when it looked ok. I never had a boyfriend

>comment in a rude or mean way about my skin when it would suddenly

>and inexplicably get bad as it seemed to. They would say maybe you

>should see a derm or use Clearasil if it bothers you. They still

>wanted to go out with me. One of my boyfriends recommended his derm

>who cleared up his skin. (He had pimple-free skin so I never would

>have guessed.)

>

>Dating is hard enough as it is without having to complicate it with

>rosacea. I have found that guys seemed more interested in me when I

>was feeling more confident in myself and friendly towards them.

>

>On a final note, did you happen to catch the TV documentary the

>Hamptons the other week? (I don't know if you live in the US, so that

>point may be moot.) There was an attorney who was fast approaching 30

>and wanted to get a husband quickly. She had clear skin and looked

>like a model. She also seemed like a very sweet person and

>extroverted so shyness wouldn't get in her way. Anyway, in one scene

>she was talking about how difficult it was to meet guys at this

>resort town where NYC's rich and " want to be rich " hang out. She said

>she gave her phone number out to lots of guys she met at clubs and

>would feel crushed when they didn't call her for a date. She does

>hook up with someone finally, but through a blind date.

>

>Anyway, you are right that we are all beautiful. There are lots of

>people out there who recognize that too!

>Take care,

>Matija

>

matija

i found this post to be

both

heart warming

and

touching.

when my face was bad

(read: covered in pustules,

skin coming off in sheets, raw, oozing

in other words: disgusting!

i could barely look in the mirror

without puking)

the very nice man in my life said:

" you are beautiful "

and kissed me

until we steamed up the windows.

the only comment he ever made was:

that looks sore. is there anything i can do for you?

it's really

wonderful

that some people

(young adam included)

have the x-ray eyes to see the inside beauty in other people

stacey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

>When I was out in the dating world, there were some guys who probably

>didn't talk to me because I had skin problems. There were some guys

>who did though. My rosacea waxed and waned in my 20s. I met guys when

>my skin was bad and when it looked ok. I never had a boyfriend

>comment in a rude or mean way about my skin when it would suddenly

>and inexplicably get bad as it seemed to. They would say maybe you

>should see a derm or use Clearasil if it bothers you. They still

>wanted to go out with me. One of my boyfriends recommended his derm

>who cleared up his skin. (He had pimple-free skin so I never would

>have guessed.)

>

>Dating is hard enough as it is without having to complicate it with

>rosacea. I have found that guys seemed more interested in me when I

>was feeling more confident in myself and friendly towards them.

>

>On a final note, did you happen to catch the TV documentary the

>Hamptons the other week? (I don't know if you live in the US, so that

>point may be moot.) There was an attorney who was fast approaching 30

>and wanted to get a husband quickly. She had clear skin and looked

>like a model. She also seemed like a very sweet person and

>extroverted so shyness wouldn't get in her way. Anyway, in one scene

>she was talking about how difficult it was to meet guys at this

>resort town where NYC's rich and " want to be rich " hang out. She said

>she gave her phone number out to lots of guys she met at clubs and

>would feel crushed when they didn't call her for a date. She does

>hook up with someone finally, but through a blind date.

>

>Anyway, you are right that we are all beautiful. There are lots of

>people out there who recognize that too!

>Take care,

>Matija

>

matija

i found this post to be

both

heart warming

and

touching.

when my face was bad

(read: covered in pustules,

skin coming off in sheets, raw, oozing

in other words: disgusting!

i could barely look in the mirror

without puking)

the very nice man in my life said:

" you are beautiful "

and kissed me

until we steamed up the windows.

the only comment he ever made was:

that looks sore. is there anything i can do for you?

it's really

wonderful

that some people

(young adam included)

have the x-ray eyes to see the inside beauty in other people

stacey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

>> Isn't it kind of like - DISCRIMINATION to label red faces

as " problem

> people " - just because of the colour of our skin?

>

>Yes!!! This has definitely happened to me!!

Remember, everyone: We are not all beautiful enough to be a

girlfriend of Adam's. But we are all beautiful in our own way.. "

Jillian

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Jillian,

When I was out in the dating world, there were some guys who probably

didn't talk to me because I had skin problems. There were some guys

who did though. My rosacea waxed and waned in my 20s. I met guys when

my skin was bad and when it looked ok. I never had a boyfriend

comment in a rude or mean way about my skin when it would suddenly

and inexplicably get bad as it seemed to. They would say maybe you

should see a derm or use Clearasil if it bothers you. They still

wanted to go out with me. One of my boyfriends recommended his derm

who cleared up his skin. (He had pimple-free skin so I never would

have guessed.)

Dating is hard enough as it is without having to complicate it with

rosacea. I have found that guys seemed more interested in me when I

was feeling more confident in myself and friendly towards them.

On a final note, did you happen to catch the TV documentary the

Hamptons the other week? (I don't know if you live in the US, so that

point may be moot.) There was an attorney who was fast approaching 30

and wanted to get a husband quickly. She had clear skin and looked

like a model. She also seemed like a very sweet person and

extroverted so shyness wouldn't get in her way. Anyway, in one scene

she was talking about how difficult it was to meet guys at this

resort town where NYC's rich and " want to be rich " hang out. She said

she gave her phone number out to lots of guys she met at clubs and

would feel crushed when they didn't call her for a date. She does

hook up with someone finally, but through a blind date.

Anyway, you are right that we are all beautiful. There are lots of

people out there who recognize that too!

Take care,

Matija

> >> Isn't it kind of like - DISCRIMINATION to label red faces

> as " problem

> > people " - just because of the colour of our skin?

> >

> >Yes!!! This has definitely happened to me!!

>

> Remember, everyone: We are not all beautiful enough to be a

> girlfriend of Adam's. But we are all beautiful in our own way.. "

>

> Jillian

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Jillian,

When I was out in the dating world, there were some guys who probably

didn't talk to me because I had skin problems. There were some guys

who did though. My rosacea waxed and waned in my 20s. I met guys when

my skin was bad and when it looked ok. I never had a boyfriend

comment in a rude or mean way about my skin when it would suddenly

and inexplicably get bad as it seemed to. They would say maybe you

should see a derm or use Clearasil if it bothers you. They still

wanted to go out with me. One of my boyfriends recommended his derm

who cleared up his skin. (He had pimple-free skin so I never would

have guessed.)

Dating is hard enough as it is without having to complicate it with

rosacea. I have found that guys seemed more interested in me when I

was feeling more confident in myself and friendly towards them.

On a final note, did you happen to catch the TV documentary the

Hamptons the other week? (I don't know if you live in the US, so that

point may be moot.) There was an attorney who was fast approaching 30

and wanted to get a husband quickly. She had clear skin and looked

like a model. She also seemed like a very sweet person and

extroverted so shyness wouldn't get in her way. Anyway, in one scene

she was talking about how difficult it was to meet guys at this

resort town where NYC's rich and " want to be rich " hang out. She said

she gave her phone number out to lots of guys she met at clubs and

would feel crushed when they didn't call her for a date. She does

hook up with someone finally, but through a blind date.

Anyway, you are right that we are all beautiful. There are lots of

people out there who recognize that too!

Take care,

Matija

> >> Isn't it kind of like - DISCRIMINATION to label red faces

> as " problem

> > people " - just because of the colour of our skin?

> >

> >Yes!!! This has definitely happened to me!!

>

> Remember, everyone: We are not all beautiful enough to be a

> girlfriend of Adam's. But we are all beautiful in our own way.. "

>

> Jillian

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Jillian,

When I was out in the dating world, there were some guys who probably

didn't talk to me because I had skin problems. There were some guys

who did though. My rosacea waxed and waned in my 20s. I met guys when

my skin was bad and when it looked ok. I never had a boyfriend

comment in a rude or mean way about my skin when it would suddenly

and inexplicably get bad as it seemed to. They would say maybe you

should see a derm or use Clearasil if it bothers you. They still

wanted to go out with me. One of my boyfriends recommended his derm

who cleared up his skin. (He had pimple-free skin so I never would

have guessed.)

Dating is hard enough as it is without having to complicate it with

rosacea. I have found that guys seemed more interested in me when I

was feeling more confident in myself and friendly towards them.

On a final note, did you happen to catch the TV documentary the

Hamptons the other week? (I don't know if you live in the US, so that

point may be moot.) There was an attorney who was fast approaching 30

and wanted to get a husband quickly. She had clear skin and looked

like a model. She also seemed like a very sweet person and

extroverted so shyness wouldn't get in her way. Anyway, in one scene

she was talking about how difficult it was to meet guys at this

resort town where NYC's rich and " want to be rich " hang out. She said

she gave her phone number out to lots of guys she met at clubs and

would feel crushed when they didn't call her for a date. She does

hook up with someone finally, but through a blind date.

Anyway, you are right that we are all beautiful. There are lots of

people out there who recognize that too!

Take care,

Matija

> >> Isn't it kind of like - DISCRIMINATION to label red faces

> as " problem

> > people " - just because of the colour of our skin?

> >

> >Yes!!! This has definitely happened to me!!

>

> Remember, everyone: We are not all beautiful enough to be a

> girlfriend of Adam's. But we are all beautiful in our own way.. "

>

> Jillian

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...