Re: The use of enzymes/die off reaction

[Guest guest]

I wish I had known this before....I went straight to the full strength enzymes

for Ki Ki and she had horrible die off reaction....she even has sores on the

side of her mouth. Does anyone know what this is about or a sign of...is it die

off too? She was a mess today, crying, sick, pale, lethargic, listless and

looked horrible! Die off is the flu from H E double two picks! My husband is

miserable tonight, dizzy, nausea and is his back pain related to die off too?

Thank God I am feeling better today. My son's peanut butter/phenol binge

behavior is wearing off...thank God. He was literally bouncing off the

walls...literally! Xena our other daughter 17 months old (five months younger

than Ki Ki) has a horrible read yeasty diaper rash and hates the Nystatin Cream

because it hurts when I rub it on! Yes we are having FUN! Yet still look

forward to more rewards.....of seeing our children get better.

Even sick, KiKi acted better today as far as participating with the family and

what we where doing!!!!! She is now wanting to play/interact with her sister

XENA for the first time....yet a little aggresive! And this is being SICK with

die off!

Antoinette (SCD day 20 entire family)

Re: Question for Gertrude or anybody else about

enzymes/Anybody have problem with SCD safe peanut butter causing bizzare

behavior?

Enzymes can cause die-off in the beginning, so start small, slow

> and work up when introducing new ones. I generally use one of each

> for each meal, or smaller amounts sometimes for snacks. Sometimes, I

> use two of each for my sons, especially if I feel they had an

> illegal or whatnot. Taking enzymes are an empty stomach between

> meals will work on knocking back yeasts and various pathogens.

>

Would you have other sources of info about enzymes for non-spectrum kids?

My son has Crohn's and I wonder if this could help him. Thanks and take

care, Fay

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

I would stop the enzymes and get a hold of the book by DeFelice as soon as

you can " Enzymes for Autism and other Neurological Conditions " .

Enzymes should be started one kind at a time, an eighth a capsule a meal. It

is what recommends, and the first time, we did it the way you just did,

the second time, her way worked as a charm.

Not all enzymes are appopriate, there are so many different kinds. Not only

must we find SCD legal ones, but ones our children can tolerate. If there are

citrus sensitivities, you can get formulations without papain and bromelain.

When the body starts digesting its food properly, it leaves less food for bad

pathogens and yeasties to eat, and this causes " die off " .

Secondly, the enzymes themselves, especially peptizyde and no-fenol, will

break open some of these fungal guys (the walls are similar to vegetables) and

this causes die off.

Summer

Bunce ajbunce@...> wrote:

I wish I had known this before....I went straight to the full strength enzymes

for Ki Ki and she had horrible die off reaction....she even has sores on the

side of her mouth. Does anyone know what this is about or a sign of...is it die

off too? She was a mess today, crying, sick, pale, lethargic, listless and

looked horrible! Die off is the flu from H E double two picks! My husband is

miserable tonight, dizzy, nausea and is his back pain related to die off too?

Thank God I am feeling better today. My son's peanut butter/phenol binge

behavior is wearing off...thank God. He was literally bouncing off the

walls...literally! Xena our other daughter 17 months old (five months younger

than Ki Ki) has a horrible read yeasty diaper rash and hates the Nystatin Cream

because it hurts when I rub it on! Yes we are having FUN! Yet still look

forward to more rewards.....of seeing our children get better.

Even sick, KiKi acted better today as far as participating with the family and

what we where doing!!!!! She is now wanting to play/interact with her sister

XENA for the first time....yet a little aggresive! And this is being SICK with

die off!

Antoinette (SCD day 20 entire family)

Re: Question for Gertrude or anybody else about

enzymes/Anybody have problem with SCD safe peanut butter causing bizzare

behavior?

Enzymes can cause die-off in the beginning, so start small, slow

> and work up when introducing new ones. I generally use one of each

> for each meal, or smaller amounts sometimes for snacks. Sometimes, I

> use two of each for my sons, especially if I feel they had an

> illegal or whatnot. Taking enzymes are an empty stomach between

> meals will work on knocking back yeasts and various pathogens.

>

Would you have other sources of info about enzymes for non-spectrum kids?

My son has Crohn's and I wonder if this could help him. Thanks and take

care, Fay

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

I would stop the enzymes and get a hold of the book by DeFelice as soon as

you can " Enzymes for Autism and other Neurological Conditions " .

Enzymes should be started one kind at a time, an eighth a capsule a meal. It

is what recommends, and the first time, we did it the way you just did,

the second time, her way worked as a charm.

Not all enzymes are appopriate, there are so many different kinds. Not only

must we find SCD legal ones, but ones our children can tolerate. If there are

citrus sensitivities, you can get formulations without papain and bromelain.

When the body starts digesting its food properly, it leaves less food for bad

pathogens and yeasties to eat, and this causes " die off " .

Secondly, the enzymes themselves, especially peptizyde and no-fenol, will

break open some of these fungal guys (the walls are similar to vegetables) and

this causes die off.

Summer

Bunce ajbunce@...> wrote:

I wish I had known this before....I went straight to the full strength enzymes

for Ki Ki and she had horrible die off reaction....she even has sores on the

side of her mouth. Does anyone know what this is about or a sign of...is it die

off too? She was a mess today, crying, sick, pale, lethargic, listless and

looked horrible! Die off is the flu from H E double two picks! My husband is

miserable tonight, dizzy, nausea and is his back pain related to die off too?

Thank God I am feeling better today. My son's peanut butter/phenol binge

behavior is wearing off...thank God. He was literally bouncing off the

walls...literally! Xena our other daughter 17 months old (five months younger

than Ki Ki) has a horrible read yeasty diaper rash and hates the Nystatin Cream

because it hurts when I rub it on! Yes we are having FUN! Yet still look

forward to more rewards.....of seeing our children get better.

Even sick, KiKi acted better today as far as participating with the family and

what we where doing!!!!! She is now wanting to play/interact with her sister

XENA for the first time....yet a little aggresive! And this is being SICK with

die off!

Antoinette (SCD day 20 entire family)

Re: Question for Gertrude or anybody else about

enzymes/Anybody have problem with SCD safe peanut butter causing bizzare

behavior?

Enzymes can cause die-off in the beginning, so start small, slow

> and work up when introducing new ones. I generally use one of each

> for each meal, or smaller amounts sometimes for snacks. Sometimes, I

> use two of each for my sons, especially if I feel they had an

> illegal or whatnot. Taking enzymes are an empty stomach between

> meals will work on knocking back yeasts and various pathogens.

>

Would you have other sources of info about enzymes for non-spectrum kids?

My son has Crohn's and I wonder if this could help him. Thanks and take

care, Fay

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Dear Gertrude:

Thank you so much for your postings, they are great! I wanted to ask you,

how long did you wait between stoping the enzymes and restarting them the

second time around?

I am asking because it sounds like I am doing the same thing you did the

first time, I think I am giving too much and plan to make some changes.

Wanted to hear you experience when stopped them, etc.

thanks

maria

mom to fiol 15mo asd

>

> I would stop the enzymes and get a hold of the book by DeFelice as

> soon as you can " Enzymes for Autism and other Neurological Conditions " .

>

> Enzymes should be started one kind at a time, an eighth a capsule a meal.

> It is what recommends, and the first time, we did it the way you just

> did, the second time, her way worked as a charm.

>

> Not all enzymes are appopriate, there are so many different kinds. Not

> only must we find SCD legal ones, but ones our children can tolerate. If

> there are citrus sensitivities, you can get formulations without papain and

> bromelain.

>

> When the body starts digesting its food properly, it leaves less food for

> bad pathogens and yeasties to eat, and this causes " die off " .

>

> Secondly, the enzymes themselves, especially peptizyde and no-fenol, will

> break open some of these fungal guys (the walls are similar to vegetables)

> and this causes die off.

>

> Summer

>

> Bunce ajbunce@...> wrote:

> I wish I had known this before....I went straight to the full strength

> enzymes for Ki Ki and she had horrible die off reaction....she even has

> sores on the side of her mouth. Does anyone know what this is about or a

> sign of...is it die off too? She was a mess today, crying, sick, pale,

> lethargic, listless and looked horrible! Die off is the flu from H E double

> two picks! My husband is miserable tonight, dizzy, nausea and is his back

> pain related to die off too? Thank God I am feeling better today. My son's

> peanut butter/phenol binge behavior is wearing off...thank God. He was

> literally bouncing off the walls...literally! Xena our other daughter 17

> months old (five months younger than Ki Ki) has a horrible read yeasty

> diaper rash and hates the Nystatin Cream because it hurts when I rub it

> on! Yes we are having FUN! Yet still look forward to more rewards.....of

> seeing our children get better.

>

> Even sick, KiKi acted better today as far as participating with the family

> and what we where doing!!!!! She is now wanting to play/interact with her

> sister XENA for the first time....yet a little aggresive! And this is being

> SICK with die off!

>

> Antoinette (SCD day 20 entire family)

> Re: Question for Gertrude or anybody else about

> enzymes/Anybody have problem with SCD safe peanut butter causing bizzare

> behavior?

>

>

> Enzymes can cause die-off in the beginning, so start small, slow

> > and work up when introducing new ones. I generally use one of each

> > for each meal, or smaller amounts sometimes for snacks. Sometimes, I

> > use two of each for my sons, especially if I feel they had an

> > illegal or whatnot. Taking enzymes are an empty stomach between

> > meals will work on knocking back yeasts and various pathogens.

> >

> Would you have other sources of info about enzymes for non-spectrum kids?

> My son has Crohn's and I wonder if this could help him. Thanks and take

> care, Fay

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Gertrude:

Thank you so much for your postings, they are great! I wanted to ask you,

how long did you wait between stoping the enzymes and restarting them the

second time around?

I am asking because it sounds like I am doing the same thing you did the

first time, I think I am giving too much and plan to make some changes.

Wanted to hear you experience when stopped them, etc.

thanks

maria

mom to fiol 15mo asd

>

> I would stop the enzymes and get a hold of the book by DeFelice as

> soon as you can " Enzymes for Autism and other Neurological Conditions " .

>

> Enzymes should be started one kind at a time, an eighth a capsule a meal.

> It is what recommends, and the first time, we did it the way you just

> did, the second time, her way worked as a charm.

>

> Not all enzymes are appopriate, there are so many different kinds. Not

> only must we find SCD legal ones, but ones our children can tolerate. If

> there are citrus sensitivities, you can get formulations without papain and

> bromelain.

>

> When the body starts digesting its food properly, it leaves less food for

> bad pathogens and yeasties to eat, and this causes " die off " .

>

> Secondly, the enzymes themselves, especially peptizyde and no-fenol, will

> break open some of these fungal guys (the walls are similar to vegetables)

> and this causes die off.

>

> Summer

>

> Bunce ajbunce@...> wrote:

> I wish I had known this before....I went straight to the full strength

> enzymes for Ki Ki and she had horrible die off reaction....she even has

> sores on the side of her mouth. Does anyone know what this is about or a

> sign of...is it die off too? She was a mess today, crying, sick, pale,

> lethargic, listless and looked horrible! Die off is the flu from H E double

> two picks! My husband is miserable tonight, dizzy, nausea and is his back

> pain related to die off too? Thank God I am feeling better today. My son's

> peanut butter/phenol binge behavior is wearing off...thank God. He was

> literally bouncing off the walls...literally! Xena our other daughter 17

> months old (five months younger than Ki Ki) has a horrible read yeasty

> diaper rash and hates the Nystatin Cream because it hurts when I rub it

> on! Yes we are having FUN! Yet still look forward to more rewards.....of

> seeing our children get better.

>

> Even sick, KiKi acted better today as far as participating with the family

> and what we where doing!!!!! She is now wanting to play/interact with her

> sister XENA for the first time....yet a little aggresive! And this is being

> SICK with die off!

>

> Antoinette (SCD day 20 entire family)

> Re: Question for Gertrude or anybody else about

> enzymes/Anybody have problem with SCD safe peanut butter causing bizzare

> behavior?

>

>

> Enzymes can cause die-off in the beginning, so start small, slow

> > and work up when introducing new ones. I generally use one of each

> > for each meal, or smaller amounts sometimes for snacks. Sometimes, I

> > use two of each for my sons, especially if I feel they had an

> > illegal or whatnot. Taking enzymes are an empty stomach between

> > meals will work on knocking back yeasts and various pathogens.

> >

> Would you have other sources of info about enzymes for non-spectrum kids?

> My son has Crohn's and I wonder if this could help him. Thanks and take

> care, Fay

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Gertrude:

Thank you so much for your postings, they are great! I wanted to ask you,

how long did you wait between stoping the enzymes and restarting them the

second time around?

I am asking because it sounds like I am doing the same thing you did the

first time, I think I am giving too much and plan to make some changes.

Wanted to hear you experience when stopped them, etc.

thanks

maria

mom to fiol 15mo asd

>

> I would stop the enzymes and get a hold of the book by DeFelice as

> soon as you can " Enzymes for Autism and other Neurological Conditions " .

>

> Enzymes should be started one kind at a time, an eighth a capsule a meal.

> It is what recommends, and the first time, we did it the way you just

> did, the second time, her way worked as a charm.

>

> Not all enzymes are appopriate, there are so many different kinds. Not

> only must we find SCD legal ones, but ones our children can tolerate. If

> there are citrus sensitivities, you can get formulations without papain and

> bromelain.

>

> When the body starts digesting its food properly, it leaves less food for

> bad pathogens and yeasties to eat, and this causes " die off " .

>

> Secondly, the enzymes themselves, especially peptizyde and no-fenol, will

> break open some of these fungal guys (the walls are similar to vegetables)

> and this causes die off.

>

> Summer

>

> Bunce ajbunce@...> wrote:

> I wish I had known this before....I went straight to the full strength

> enzymes for Ki Ki and she had horrible die off reaction....she even has

> sores on the side of her mouth. Does anyone know what this is about or a

> sign of...is it die off too? She was a mess today, crying, sick, pale,

> lethargic, listless and looked horrible! Die off is the flu from H E double

> two picks! My husband is miserable tonight, dizzy, nausea and is his back

> pain related to die off too? Thank God I am feeling better today. My son's

> peanut butter/phenol binge behavior is wearing off...thank God. He was

> literally bouncing off the walls...literally! Xena our other daughter 17

> months old (five months younger than Ki Ki) has a horrible read yeasty

> diaper rash and hates the Nystatin Cream because it hurts when I rub it

> on! Yes we are having FUN! Yet still look forward to more rewards.....of

> seeing our children get better.

>

> Even sick, KiKi acted better today as far as participating with the family

> and what we where doing!!!!! She is now wanting to play/interact with her

> sister XENA for the first time....yet a little aggresive! And this is being

> SICK with die off!

>

> Antoinette (SCD day 20 entire family)

> Re: Question for Gertrude or anybody else about

> enzymes/Anybody have problem with SCD safe peanut butter causing bizzare

> behavior?

>

>

> Enzymes can cause die-off in the beginning, so start small, slow

> > and work up when introducing new ones. I generally use one of each

> > for each meal, or smaller amounts sometimes for snacks. Sometimes, I

> > use two of each for my sons, especially if I feel they had an

> > illegal or whatnot. Taking enzymes are an empty stomach between

> > meals will work on knocking back yeasts and various pathogens.

> >

> Would you have other sources of info about enzymes for non-spectrum kids?

> My son has Crohn's and I wonder if this could help him. Thanks and take

> care, Fay

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I wish I had known this before....I went straight to the full strength enzymes

for Ki Ki

and she had horrible die off reaction.

Please everyone, learn hpw to trim posts when replying. All sorts of HTML code

and

extraneous material attaches if you do not.

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

>

> I wish I had known this before....I went straight to the full strength enzymes

for Ki Ki

and she had horrible die off reaction.

Please everyone, learn hpw to trim posts when replying. All sorts of HTML code

and

extraneous material attaches if you do not.

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

>

> I wish I had known this before....I went straight to the full strength enzymes

for Ki Ki

and she had horrible die off reaction.

Please everyone, learn hpw to trim posts when replying. All sorts of HTML code

and

extraneous material attaches if you do not.

Carol F.