casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

[Guest guest]

Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she steals

has casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the casein lately.

It started about 2 weeks ago. It seems now she doesn't have a sensitivity but,

an actual allergy to it causing her to cough a lot sounding very congested,

giving her sinus infections, making her hyper, the congested cough was bad

enough that she almost sounded like she was wheezing. I have asthma and know

what wheezing sounds like. I have never heard her wheeze from anything ever

before. She did steal lots of casein laced foods over the last month. I thought

it would be a good test anyway to see if she has healed. I don't think she has

healed in this area due to the fact that she keeps stealing foods with casein in

it. Could it be possible that she has a worse reaction now to it than she did a

month ago? Do allergies get worse ever if you constantly exposed to it? I'm

ready to go into hybernation with her for a year to keep her away from the

people and places where she may be getting these foods. Jenn & Kali 8 months SCD

[Guest guest]

to keep her away from anyone or anyplace that she may be getting these

foods. Jenn & Kali 8 months SCD

casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

> Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she

steals has casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the

casein lately. It started about 2 weeks ago. It seems now she doesn't have a

sensitivity but, an actual allergy to it causing her to cough a lot sounding

very congested, giving her sinus infections, making her hyper, the congested

cough was bad enough that she almost sounded like she was wheezing. I have

asthma and know what wheezing sounds like. I have never heard her wheeze

from anything ever before. She did steal lots of casein laced foods over the

last month. I thought it would be a good test anyway to see if she has

healed. I don't think she has healed in this area due to the fact that she

keeps stealing foods with casein in it. Could it be possible that she has a

worse reaction now to it than she did a month ago? Do allergies get worse

ever if you constantly exposed to it? I'm ready to go into hybernation with

her for a year to keep he

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

to keep her away from anyone or anyplace that she may be getting these

foods. Jenn & Kali 8 months SCD

casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

> Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she

steals has casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the

casein lately. It started about 2 weeks ago. It seems now she doesn't have a

sensitivity but, an actual allergy to it causing her to cough a lot sounding

very congested, giving her sinus infections, making her hyper, the congested

cough was bad enough that she almost sounded like she was wheezing. I have

asthma and know what wheezing sounds like. I have never heard her wheeze

from anything ever before. She did steal lots of casein laced foods over the

last month. I thought it would be a good test anyway to see if she has

healed. I don't think she has healed in this area due to the fact that she

keeps stealing foods with casein in it. Could it be possible that she has a

worse reaction now to it than she did a month ago? Do allergies get worse

ever if you constantly exposed to it? I'm ready to go into hybernation with

her for a year to keep he

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

to keep her away from anyone or anyplace that she may be getting these

foods. Jenn & Kali 8 months SCD

casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

> Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she

steals has casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the

casein lately. It started about 2 weeks ago. It seems now she doesn't have a

sensitivity but, an actual allergy to it causing her to cough a lot sounding

very congested, giving her sinus infections, making her hyper, the congested

cough was bad enough that she almost sounded like she was wheezing. I have

asthma and know what wheezing sounds like. I have never heard her wheeze

from anything ever before. She did steal lots of casein laced foods over the

last month. I thought it would be a good test anyway to see if she has

healed. I don't think she has healed in this area due to the fact that she

keeps stealing foods with casein in it. Could it be possible that she has a

worse reaction now to it than she did a month ago? Do allergies get worse

ever if you constantly exposed to it? I'm ready to go into hybernation with

her for a year to keep he

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she steals

has

casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the casein lately.

How do you know it is not the lactose in the casein illegals that is causing

problems?

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

>

> Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she steals

has

casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the casein lately.

How do you know it is not the lactose in the casein illegals that is causing

problems?

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

>

> Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she steals

has

casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the casein lately.

How do you know it is not the lactose in the casein illegals that is causing

problems?

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

She was just tested by Dr. Buie, ped. GI for a whole bunch of things. She

doesn't have a problem with the lactose. The lactose is the milk sugar

right? She doesn't have any problems breaking down any sugars he said. He

also said that he didn't see any evidence to support why we are not giving

her gluten either. She doesn't have celiac's disease. I told him that we

have been able to take her off of the sleep and behavior meds. and that she

can focus better and is mostly potty-trained now since I put her on this

diet almost 9 months ago. I am not willing to go back to that. Maybe we have

reduced her toxic load with this diet and that's why it's working. The

wonderful thing is that it is working! He did not encourage me to take her

off the diet. Anyway, she was tested and I was told not to give her any

products with casein in it. I was just wondering if it is a possibility to

create worse allergies by being overexposed to them? Jenn & Kali 8 months

SCD ---- Original Message -----

To: pecanbread >

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:21 AM

Subject: Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

>

> >

> > Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she

steals has

> casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the casein

lately.

>

> How do you know it is not the lactose in the casein illegals that is

causing problems?

>

> Carol F.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

She was just tested by Dr. Buie, ped. GI for a whole bunch of things. She

doesn't have a problem with the lactose. The lactose is the milk sugar

right? She doesn't have any problems breaking down any sugars he said. He

also said that he didn't see any evidence to support why we are not giving

her gluten either. She doesn't have celiac's disease. I told him that we

have been able to take her off of the sleep and behavior meds. and that she

can focus better and is mostly potty-trained now since I put her on this

diet almost 9 months ago. I am not willing to go back to that. Maybe we have

reduced her toxic load with this diet and that's why it's working. The

wonderful thing is that it is working! He did not encourage me to take her

off the diet. Anyway, she was tested and I was told not to give her any

products with casein in it. I was just wondering if it is a possibility to

create worse allergies by being overexposed to them? Jenn & Kali 8 months

SCD ---- Original Message -----

To: pecanbread >

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:21 AM

Subject: Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

>

> >

> > Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she

steals has

> casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the casein

lately.

>

> How do you know it is not the lactose in the casein illegals that is

causing problems?

>

> Carol F.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

She was just tested by Dr. Buie, ped. GI for a whole bunch of things. She

doesn't have a problem with the lactose. The lactose is the milk sugar

right? She doesn't have any problems breaking down any sugars he said. He

also said that he didn't see any evidence to support why we are not giving

her gluten either. She doesn't have celiac's disease. I told him that we

have been able to take her off of the sleep and behavior meds. and that she

can focus better and is mostly potty-trained now since I put her on this

diet almost 9 months ago. I am not willing to go back to that. Maybe we have

reduced her toxic load with this diet and that's why it's working. The

wonderful thing is that it is working! He did not encourage me to take her

off the diet. Anyway, she was tested and I was told not to give her any

products with casein in it. I was just wondering if it is a possibility to

create worse allergies by being overexposed to them? Jenn & Kali 8 months

SCD ---- Original Message -----

To: pecanbread >

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:21 AM

Subject: Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

>

> >

> > Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she

steals has

> casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the casein

lately.

>

> How do you know it is not the lactose in the casein illegals that is

causing problems?

>

> Carol F.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Doc Buie also said she seemed to have pinworms and when I just talked to

him, he said that when he took a stool culture during the scope, the results

came out that she didn't have worms. That was oddly wrong, I believe. When I

gave her the vermox, she went through die-off and expelled the worms. I saw

them myself so, I know some of this testing cannot be accurate. I also was

treated the same way and had no die-off! Jenn & Kali 8 months SCD

Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

>

> >

> > Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she

steals has

> casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the casein

lately.

>

> How do you know it is not the lactose in the casein illegals that is

causing problems?

>

> Carol F.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Doc Buie also said she seemed to have pinworms and when I just talked to

him, he said that when he took a stool culture during the scope, the results

came out that she didn't have worms. That was oddly wrong, I believe. When I

gave her the vermox, she went through die-off and expelled the worms. I saw

them myself so, I know some of this testing cannot be accurate. I also was

treated the same way and had no die-off! Jenn & Kali 8 months SCD

Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

>

> >

> > Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she

steals has

> casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the casein

lately.

>

> How do you know it is not the lactose in the casein illegals that is

causing problems?

>

> Carol F.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Doc Buie also said she seemed to have pinworms and when I just talked to

him, he said that when he took a stool culture during the scope, the results

came out that she didn't have worms. That was oddly wrong, I believe. When I

gave her the vermox, she went through die-off and expelled the worms. I saw

them myself so, I know some of this testing cannot be accurate. I also was

treated the same way and had no die-off! Jenn & Kali 8 months SCD

Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

>

> >

> > Since my daughter decides to steal foods sometimes and most of what she

steals has

> casein in it. I've noticed some really bad reactions from the casein

lately.

>

> How do you know it is not the lactose in the casein illegals that is

causing problems?

>

> Carol F.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jen,

I know this must be very tough for you.

What are the options for keeping her away from the places she steals

food? At least for a month or two? Since she is stealing food, there

is honestly no way for you to know what is causing the allergic

reactions. Practically everything that has casein in it probably has

something else in it that she shouldn't be eating (with the exception

of a plain glass of milk, which would be the only thing that has just

casein/lactose in it). Everything else has some form of starch more

than likely.

I don't know how good her receptive language skills are, but if she

has any understanding at all, I would just tell her that she is

stealing food and that it is WRONG. I know that some will not agree

with me. But I have always been very straight-forward with my son and

just cut to the chase with him. Taking food without permission is

stealing and stealing is wrong. I would also tell her that since she

is stealing food at " (name place) " , that you cannot go there for a while.

She is young and this is her health and you are her mother. I hate to

sound harsh, but if she were poking herself with scissors, you'd

either lock up or remove all scissors. Eating things she cannot

digest is hurting her on the inside.

I say this with all compassion for you and your situation, but she is

never going to see the full positive results that I expect to you'll

see if she stops cheating. (especially since you've seen a positive

response, even though she cheats).

Your idea of hybernation (for a time period) is not a bad one. I know

there will be others who will say that she has to " socialize " , etc.

But I did not find that to be true. I found that as I kept

away from all of the bad influences on his behavior, that I was able

to train him myself on the appropriate way to behave. So, he spent

several years in " hybernation/isolation " from social situations, but

you would never know it now. He came out of that period with the

knowledge he needed to succeed socially, whereas before he was

clueless and all he ever " learned " in those situations was how to

imitate the most poorly behaved child in the environment.

So, my vote weighs in on the side of doing what is right for her

health and worrying less about " socialization " .

And please everyone, refrain from flaming me on this issue. I took a

lot of heat from the school and others who thought I was wrong. This

method did work for my son. No one who meets him now has any idea

that he ever had autism. My methods may seem " harsh " , but I just

continued to insist that he behave appropriately and removed him from

situations where he was not yet able to succeed in behaving properly.

It may not work for everyone, but it did work for us.

Now, whenever we are going into an unfamiliar situation (to him), I

can talk to him about it ahead of time and explain to him my

expectations. This works very well when he knows what is expected of

him. He lives up to those expectations. He also knows that if he

chooses not to follow what is expected that we will leave and go home.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Jen,

I know this must be very tough for you.

What are the options for keeping her away from the places she steals

food? At least for a month or two? Since she is stealing food, there

is honestly no way for you to know what is causing the allergic

reactions. Practically everything that has casein in it probably has

something else in it that she shouldn't be eating (with the exception

of a plain glass of milk, which would be the only thing that has just

casein/lactose in it). Everything else has some form of starch more

than likely.

I don't know how good her receptive language skills are, but if she

has any understanding at all, I would just tell her that she is

stealing food and that it is WRONG. I know that some will not agree

with me. But I have always been very straight-forward with my son and

just cut to the chase with him. Taking food without permission is

stealing and stealing is wrong. I would also tell her that since she

is stealing food at " (name place) " , that you cannot go there for a while.

She is young and this is her health and you are her mother. I hate to

sound harsh, but if she were poking herself with scissors, you'd

either lock up or remove all scissors. Eating things she cannot

digest is hurting her on the inside.

I say this with all compassion for you and your situation, but she is

never going to see the full positive results that I expect to you'll

see if she stops cheating. (especially since you've seen a positive

response, even though she cheats).

Your idea of hybernation (for a time period) is not a bad one. I know

there will be others who will say that she has to " socialize " , etc.

But I did not find that to be true. I found that as I kept

away from all of the bad influences on his behavior, that I was able

to train him myself on the appropriate way to behave. So, he spent

several years in " hybernation/isolation " from social situations, but

you would never know it now. He came out of that period with the

knowledge he needed to succeed socially, whereas before he was

clueless and all he ever " learned " in those situations was how to

imitate the most poorly behaved child in the environment.

So, my vote weighs in on the side of doing what is right for her

health and worrying less about " socialization " .

And please everyone, refrain from flaming me on this issue. I took a

lot of heat from the school and others who thought I was wrong. This

method did work for my son. No one who meets him now has any idea

that he ever had autism. My methods may seem " harsh " , but I just

continued to insist that he behave appropriately and removed him from

situations where he was not yet able to succeed in behaving properly.

It may not work for everyone, but it did work for us.

Now, whenever we are going into an unfamiliar situation (to him), I

can talk to him about it ahead of time and explain to him my

expectations. This works very well when he knows what is expected of

him. He lives up to those expectations. He also knows that if he

chooses not to follow what is expected that we will leave and go home.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Jen,

I know this must be very tough for you.

What are the options for keeping her away from the places she steals

food? At least for a month or two? Since she is stealing food, there

is honestly no way for you to know what is causing the allergic

reactions. Practically everything that has casein in it probably has

something else in it that she shouldn't be eating (with the exception

of a plain glass of milk, which would be the only thing that has just

casein/lactose in it). Everything else has some form of starch more

than likely.

I don't know how good her receptive language skills are, but if she

has any understanding at all, I would just tell her that she is

stealing food and that it is WRONG. I know that some will not agree

with me. But I have always been very straight-forward with my son and

just cut to the chase with him. Taking food without permission is

stealing and stealing is wrong. I would also tell her that since she

is stealing food at " (name place) " , that you cannot go there for a while.

She is young and this is her health and you are her mother. I hate to

sound harsh, but if she were poking herself with scissors, you'd

either lock up or remove all scissors. Eating things she cannot

digest is hurting her on the inside.

I say this with all compassion for you and your situation, but she is

never going to see the full positive results that I expect to you'll

see if she stops cheating. (especially since you've seen a positive

response, even though she cheats).

Your idea of hybernation (for a time period) is not a bad one. I know

there will be others who will say that she has to " socialize " , etc.

But I did not find that to be true. I found that as I kept

away from all of the bad influences on his behavior, that I was able

to train him myself on the appropriate way to behave. So, he spent

several years in " hybernation/isolation " from social situations, but

you would never know it now. He came out of that period with the

knowledge he needed to succeed socially, whereas before he was

clueless and all he ever " learned " in those situations was how to

imitate the most poorly behaved child in the environment.

So, my vote weighs in on the side of doing what is right for her

health and worrying less about " socialization " .

And please everyone, refrain from flaming me on this issue. I took a

lot of heat from the school and others who thought I was wrong. This

method did work for my son. No one who meets him now has any idea

that he ever had autism. My methods may seem " harsh " , but I just

continued to insist that he behave appropriately and removed him from

situations where he was not yet able to succeed in behaving properly.

It may not work for everyone, but it did work for us.

Now, whenever we are going into an unfamiliar situation (to him), I

can talk to him about it ahead of time and explain to him my

expectations. This works very well when he knows what is expected of

him. He lives up to those expectations. He also knows that if he

chooses not to follow what is expected that we will leave and go home.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

I am very strict per say in raising K as you have described with your son.

But, the foods she steals are at school and church and with her

grandparent's on dad's side. I am so afraid that she is going to have an

anphlactic reaction when I am not there if she is given things to eat by

grandma or steals from school as she is exhibiting breathing problems also

now. Her school and I as well as her grandma and I have been all over it!

The only way I see K getting better is to take her away-just me and her. No

grandma and home-schooling is probably going to be necessary. I have thought

alot about this and it feels like my only choice. She does understand when I

speak to her. She knows stealing food is wrong at home but, since I'm not

there at school or right in the room at church to stop her and tell her it's

wrong, she feels like she gets away with it. Her behavior in the grocery

store has improved greatly because we set rules and if they aren't obeyed

then, we leave. This seems like a reasonable way of getting her to behave,

despite what others say. Are they raising my kid?-NO! I think you have a

good approach on this. I will have to try harder to be with her as much as I

can. Thanks Jody. Jenn & Kali 8 months SCD

Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

> Jen,

>

> I know this must be very tough for you.

>

> What are the options for keeping her away from the places she steals

> food? At least for a month or two? Since she is stealing food, there

> is honestly no way for you to know what is causing the allergic

> reactions. Practically everything that has casein in it probably has

> something else in it that she shouldn't be eating (with the exception

> of a plain glass of milk, which would be the only thing that has just

> casein/lactose in it). Everything else has some form of starch more

> than likely.

>

> I don't know how good her receptive language skills are, but if she

> has any understanding at all, I would just tell her that she is

> stealing food and that it is WRONG. I know that some will not agree

> with me. But I have always been very straight-forward with my son and

> just cut to the chase with him. Taking food without permission is

> stealing and stealing is wrong. I would also tell her that since she

> is stealing food at " (name place) " , that you cannot go there for a while.

>

> She is young and this is her health and you are her mother. I hate to

> sound harsh, but if she were poking herself with scissors, you'd

> either lock up or remove all scissors. Eating things she cannot

> digest is hurting her on the inside.

>

> I say this with all compassion for you and your situation, but she is

> never going to see the full positive results that I expect to you'll

> see if she stops cheating. (especially since you've seen a positive

> response, even though she cheats).

>

> Your idea of hybernation (for a time period) is not a bad one. I know

> there will be others who will say that she has to " socialize " , etc.

> But I did not find that to be true. I found that as I kept

> away from all of the bad influences on his behavior, that I was able

> to train him myself on the appropriate way to behave. So, he spent

> several years in " hybernation/isolation " from social situations, but

> you would never know it now. He came out of that period with the

> knowledge he needed to succeed socially, whereas before he was

> clueless and all he ever " learned " in those situations was how to

> imitate the most poorly behaved child in the environment.

>

> So, my vote weighs in on the side of doing what is right for her

> health and worrying less about " socialization " .

>

> And please everyone, refrain from flaming me on this issue. I took a

> lot of heat from the school and others who thought I was wrong. This

> method did work for my son. No one who meets him now has any idea

> that he ever had autism. My methods may seem " harsh " , but I just

> continued to insist that he behave appropriately and removed him from

> situations where he was not yet able to succeed in behaving properly.

> It may not work for everyone, but it did work for us.

>

> Now, whenever we are going into an unfamiliar situation (to him), I

> can talk to him about it ahead of time and explain to him my

> expectations. This works very well when he knows what is expected of

> him. He lives up to those expectations. He also knows that if he

> chooses not to follow what is expected that we will leave and go home.

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am very strict per say in raising K as you have described with your son.

But, the foods she steals are at school and church and with her

grandparent's on dad's side. I am so afraid that she is going to have an

anphlactic reaction when I am not there if she is given things to eat by

grandma or steals from school as she is exhibiting breathing problems also

now. Her school and I as well as her grandma and I have been all over it!

The only way I see K getting better is to take her away-just me and her. No

grandma and home-schooling is probably going to be necessary. I have thought

alot about this and it feels like my only choice. She does understand when I

speak to her. She knows stealing food is wrong at home but, since I'm not

there at school or right in the room at church to stop her and tell her it's

wrong, she feels like she gets away with it. Her behavior in the grocery

store has improved greatly because we set rules and if they aren't obeyed

then, we leave. This seems like a reasonable way of getting her to behave,

despite what others say. Are they raising my kid?-NO! I think you have a

good approach on this. I will have to try harder to be with her as much as I

can. Thanks Jody. Jenn & Kali 8 months SCD

Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

> Jen,

>

> I know this must be very tough for you.

>

> What are the options for keeping her away from the places she steals

> food? At least for a month or two? Since she is stealing food, there

> is honestly no way for you to know what is causing the allergic

> reactions. Practically everything that has casein in it probably has

> something else in it that she shouldn't be eating (with the exception

> of a plain glass of milk, which would be the only thing that has just

> casein/lactose in it). Everything else has some form of starch more

> than likely.

>

> I don't know how good her receptive language skills are, but if she

> has any understanding at all, I would just tell her that she is

> stealing food and that it is WRONG. I know that some will not agree

> with me. But I have always been very straight-forward with my son and

> just cut to the chase with him. Taking food without permission is

> stealing and stealing is wrong. I would also tell her that since she

> is stealing food at " (name place) " , that you cannot go there for a while.

>

> She is young and this is her health and you are her mother. I hate to

> sound harsh, but if she were poking herself with scissors, you'd

> either lock up or remove all scissors. Eating things she cannot

> digest is hurting her on the inside.

>

> I say this with all compassion for you and your situation, but she is

> never going to see the full positive results that I expect to you'll

> see if she stops cheating. (especially since you've seen a positive

> response, even though she cheats).

>

> Your idea of hybernation (for a time period) is not a bad one. I know

> there will be others who will say that she has to " socialize " , etc.

> But I did not find that to be true. I found that as I kept

> away from all of the bad influences on his behavior, that I was able

> to train him myself on the appropriate way to behave. So, he spent

> several years in " hybernation/isolation " from social situations, but

> you would never know it now. He came out of that period with the

> knowledge he needed to succeed socially, whereas before he was

> clueless and all he ever " learned " in those situations was how to

> imitate the most poorly behaved child in the environment.

>

> So, my vote weighs in on the side of doing what is right for her

> health and worrying less about " socialization " .

>

> And please everyone, refrain from flaming me on this issue. I took a

> lot of heat from the school and others who thought I was wrong. This

> method did work for my son. No one who meets him now has any idea

> that he ever had autism. My methods may seem " harsh " , but I just

> continued to insist that he behave appropriately and removed him from

> situations where he was not yet able to succeed in behaving properly.

> It may not work for everyone, but it did work for us.

>

> Now, whenever we are going into an unfamiliar situation (to him), I

> can talk to him about it ahead of time and explain to him my

> expectations. This works very well when he knows what is expected of

> him. He lives up to those expectations. He also knows that if he

> chooses not to follow what is expected that we will leave and go home.

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am very strict per say in raising K as you have described with your son.

But, the foods she steals are at school and church and with her

grandparent's on dad's side. I am so afraid that she is going to have an

anphlactic reaction when I am not there if she is given things to eat by

grandma or steals from school as she is exhibiting breathing problems also

now. Her school and I as well as her grandma and I have been all over it!

The only way I see K getting better is to take her away-just me and her. No

grandma and home-schooling is probably going to be necessary. I have thought

alot about this and it feels like my only choice. She does understand when I

speak to her. She knows stealing food is wrong at home but, since I'm not

there at school or right in the room at church to stop her and tell her it's

wrong, she feels like she gets away with it. Her behavior in the grocery

store has improved greatly because we set rules and if they aren't obeyed

then, we leave. This seems like a reasonable way of getting her to behave,

despite what others say. Are they raising my kid?-NO! I think you have a

good approach on this. I will have to try harder to be with her as much as I

can. Thanks Jody. Jenn & Kali 8 months SCD

Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

> Jen,

>

> I know this must be very tough for you.

>

> What are the options for keeping her away from the places she steals

> food? At least for a month or two? Since she is stealing food, there

> is honestly no way for you to know what is causing the allergic

> reactions. Practically everything that has casein in it probably has

> something else in it that she shouldn't be eating (with the exception

> of a plain glass of milk, which would be the only thing that has just

> casein/lactose in it). Everything else has some form of starch more

> than likely.

>

> I don't know how good her receptive language skills are, but if she

> has any understanding at all, I would just tell her that she is

> stealing food and that it is WRONG. I know that some will not agree

> with me. But I have always been very straight-forward with my son and

> just cut to the chase with him. Taking food without permission is

> stealing and stealing is wrong. I would also tell her that since she

> is stealing food at " (name place) " , that you cannot go there for a while.

>

> She is young and this is her health and you are her mother. I hate to

> sound harsh, but if she were poking herself with scissors, you'd

> either lock up or remove all scissors. Eating things she cannot

> digest is hurting her on the inside.

>

> I say this with all compassion for you and your situation, but she is

> never going to see the full positive results that I expect to you'll

> see if she stops cheating. (especially since you've seen a positive

> response, even though she cheats).

>

> Your idea of hybernation (for a time period) is not a bad one. I know

> there will be others who will say that she has to " socialize " , etc.

> But I did not find that to be true. I found that as I kept

> away from all of the bad influences on his behavior, that I was able

> to train him myself on the appropriate way to behave. So, he spent

> several years in " hybernation/isolation " from social situations, but

> you would never know it now. He came out of that period with the

> knowledge he needed to succeed socially, whereas before he was

> clueless and all he ever " learned " in those situations was how to

> imitate the most poorly behaved child in the environment.

>

> So, my vote weighs in on the side of doing what is right for her

> health and worrying less about " socialization " .

>

> And please everyone, refrain from flaming me on this issue. I took a

> lot of heat from the school and others who thought I was wrong. This

> method did work for my son. No one who meets him now has any idea

> that he ever had autism. My methods may seem " harsh " , but I just

> continued to insist that he behave appropriately and removed him from

> situations where he was not yet able to succeed in behaving properly.

> It may not work for everyone, but it did work for us.

>

> Now, whenever we are going into an unfamiliar situation (to him), I

> can talk to him about it ahead of time and explain to him my

> expectations. This works very well when he knows what is expected of

> him. He lives up to those expectations. He also knows that if he

> chooses not to follow what is expected that we will leave and go home.

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

She does still steal food at home sometimes but, it's more like the PB

brownies and almond slivers. How can I redirect that? I can ask her to try

to ask for it as I do but, that's about it. I won't take it away if it is

SCD legal. Jenn

Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

>

>

> > Jen,

> >

> > I know this must be very tough for you.

> >

> > What are the options for keeping her away from the places she steals

> > food? At least for a month or two? Since she is stealing food, there

> > is honestly no way for you to know what is causing the allergic

> > reactions. Practically everything that has casein in it probably has

> > something else in it that she shouldn't be eating (with the exception

> > of a plain glass of milk, which would be the only thing that has just

> > casein/lactose in it). Everything else has some form of starch more

> > than likely.

> >

> > I don't know how good her receptive language skills are, but if she

> > has any understanding at all, I would just tell her that she is

> > stealing food and that it is WRONG. I know that some will not agree

> > with me. But I have always been very straight-forward with my son and

> > just cut to the chase with him. Taking food without permission is

> > stealing and stealing is wrong. I would also tell her that since she

> > is stealing food at " (name place) " , that you cannot go there for a

while.

> >

> > She is young and this is her health and you are her mother. I hate to

> > sound harsh, but if she were poking herself with scissors, you'd

> > either lock up or remove all scissors. Eating things she cannot

> > digest is hurting her on the inside.

> >

> > I say this with all compassion for you and your situation, but she is

> > never going to see the full positive results that I expect to you'll

> > see if she stops cheating. (especially since you've seen a positive

> > response, even though she cheats).

> >

> > Your idea of hybernation (for a time period) is not a bad one. I know

> > there will be others who will say that she has to " socialize " , etc.

> > But I did not find that to be true. I found that as I kept

> > away from all of the bad influences on his behavior, that I was able

> > to train him myself on the appropriate way to behave. So, he spent

> > several years in " hybernation/isolation " from social situations, but

> > you would never know it now. He came out of that period with the

> > knowledge he needed to succeed socially, whereas before he was

> > clueless and all he ever " learned " in those situations was how to

> > imitate the most poorly behaved child in the environment.

> >

> > So, my vote weighs in on the side of doing what is right for her

> > health and worrying less about " socialization " .

> >

> > And please everyone, refrain from flaming me on this issue. I took a

> > lot of heat from the school and others who thought I was wrong. This

> > method did work for my son. No one who meets him now has any idea

> > that he ever had autism. My methods may seem " harsh " , but I just

> > continued to insist that he behave appropriately and removed him from

> > situations where he was not yet able to succeed in behaving properly.

> > It may not work for everyone, but it did work for us.

> >

> > Now, whenever we are going into an unfamiliar situation (to him), I

> > can talk to him about it ahead of time and explain to him my

> > expectations. This works very well when he knows what is expected of

> > him. He lives up to those expectations. He also knows that if he

> > chooses not to follow what is expected that we will leave and go home.

> >

> >

> > Jody

> > mom to -7 and -9

> > SCD 1/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

She does still steal food at home sometimes but, it's more like the PB

brownies and almond slivers. How can I redirect that? I can ask her to try

to ask for it as I do but, that's about it. I won't take it away if it is

SCD legal. Jenn

Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

>

>

> > Jen,

> >

> > I know this must be very tough for you.

> >

> > What are the options for keeping her away from the places she steals

> > food? At least for a month or two? Since she is stealing food, there

> > is honestly no way for you to know what is causing the allergic

> > reactions. Practically everything that has casein in it probably has

> > something else in it that she shouldn't be eating (with the exception

> > of a plain glass of milk, which would be the only thing that has just

> > casein/lactose in it). Everything else has some form of starch more

> > than likely.

> >

> > I don't know how good her receptive language skills are, but if she

> > has any understanding at all, I would just tell her that she is

> > stealing food and that it is WRONG. I know that some will not agree

> > with me. But I have always been very straight-forward with my son and

> > just cut to the chase with him. Taking food without permission is

> > stealing and stealing is wrong. I would also tell her that since she

> > is stealing food at " (name place) " , that you cannot go there for a

while.

> >

> > She is young and this is her health and you are her mother. I hate to

> > sound harsh, but if she were poking herself with scissors, you'd

> > either lock up or remove all scissors. Eating things she cannot

> > digest is hurting her on the inside.

> >

> > I say this with all compassion for you and your situation, but she is

> > never going to see the full positive results that I expect to you'll

> > see if she stops cheating. (especially since you've seen a positive

> > response, even though she cheats).

> >

> > Your idea of hybernation (for a time period) is not a bad one. I know

> > there will be others who will say that she has to " socialize " , etc.

> > But I did not find that to be true. I found that as I kept

> > away from all of the bad influences on his behavior, that I was able

> > to train him myself on the appropriate way to behave. So, he spent

> > several years in " hybernation/isolation " from social situations, but

> > you would never know it now. He came out of that period with the

> > knowledge he needed to succeed socially, whereas before he was

> > clueless and all he ever " learned " in those situations was how to

> > imitate the most poorly behaved child in the environment.

> >

> > So, my vote weighs in on the side of doing what is right for her

> > health and worrying less about " socialization " .

> >

> > And please everyone, refrain from flaming me on this issue. I took a

> > lot of heat from the school and others who thought I was wrong. This

> > method did work for my son. No one who meets him now has any idea

> > that he ever had autism. My methods may seem " harsh " , but I just

> > continued to insist that he behave appropriately and removed him from

> > situations where he was not yet able to succeed in behaving properly.

> > It may not work for everyone, but it did work for us.

> >

> > Now, whenever we are going into an unfamiliar situation (to him), I

> > can talk to him about it ahead of time and explain to him my

> > expectations. This works very well when he knows what is expected of

> > him. He lives up to those expectations. He also knows that if he

> > chooses not to follow what is expected that we will leave and go home.

> >

> >

> > Jody

> > mom to -7 and -9

> > SCD 1/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

She does still steal food at home sometimes but, it's more like the PB

brownies and almond slivers. How can I redirect that? I can ask her to try

to ask for it as I do but, that's about it. I won't take it away if it is

SCD legal. Jenn

Re: casein intolerance changing to real allergy...?

>

>

> > Jen,

> >

> > I know this must be very tough for you.

> >

> > What are the options for keeping her away from the places she steals

> > food? At least for a month or two? Since she is stealing food, there

> > is honestly no way for you to know what is causing the allergic

> > reactions. Practically everything that has casein in it probably has

> > something else in it that she shouldn't be eating (with the exception

> > of a plain glass of milk, which would be the only thing that has just

> > casein/lactose in it). Everything else has some form of starch more

> > than likely.

> >

> > I don't know how good her receptive language skills are, but if she

> > has any understanding at all, I would just tell her that she is

> > stealing food and that it is WRONG. I know that some will not agree

> > with me. But I have always been very straight-forward with my son and

> > just cut to the chase with him. Taking food without permission is

> > stealing and stealing is wrong. I would also tell her that since she

> > is stealing food at " (name place) " , that you cannot go there for a

while.

> >

> > She is young and this is her health and you are her mother. I hate to

> > sound harsh, but if she were poking herself with scissors, you'd

> > either lock up or remove all scissors. Eating things she cannot

> > digest is hurting her on the inside.

> >

> > I say this with all compassion for you and your situation, but she is

> > never going to see the full positive results that I expect to you'll

> > see if she stops cheating. (especially since you've seen a positive

> > response, even though she cheats).

> >

> > Your idea of hybernation (for a time period) is not a bad one. I know

> > there will be others who will say that she has to " socialize " , etc.

> > But I did not find that to be true. I found that as I kept

> > away from all of the bad influences on his behavior, that I was able

> > to train him myself on the appropriate way to behave. So, he spent

> > several years in " hybernation/isolation " from social situations, but

> > you would never know it now. He came out of that period with the

> > knowledge he needed to succeed socially, whereas before he was

> > clueless and all he ever " learned " in those situations was how to

> > imitate the most poorly behaved child in the environment.

> >

> > So, my vote weighs in on the side of doing what is right for her

> > health and worrying less about " socialization " .

> >

> > And please everyone, refrain from flaming me on this issue. I took a

> > lot of heat from the school and others who thought I was wrong. This

> > method did work for my son. No one who meets him now has any idea

> > that he ever had autism. My methods may seem " harsh " , but I just

> > continued to insist that he behave appropriately and removed him from

> > situations where he was not yet able to succeed in behaving properly.

> > It may not work for everyone, but it did work for us.

> >

> > Now, whenever we are going into an unfamiliar situation (to him), I

> > can talk to him about it ahead of time and explain to him my

> > expectations. This works very well when he knows what is expected of

> > him. He lives up to those expectations. He also knows that if he

> > chooses not to follow what is expected that we will leave and go home.

> >

> >

> > Jody

> > mom to -7 and -9

> > SCD 1/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

All kids try to get away with things when their parents aren't looking.

I have even heard the neighborhood kids telling my boys that it's okay

to " (whatever) " as long as I don't catch them.

It's very, very hard to keep a child who is on a restricted diet from

cheating. There are a few options. Put a t-shirt/dress on her that

is a very bright color- a day-glow color. Then go to each adult in

the room, point out who she is and that she needs to be watched at ALL

times. Go to whoever the leader is (teacher or minister) and explain

to them that if she is not watched 100% of the time, that you will

either have to attend with her or she will not be able to attend. She

is getting physically ill from what she is sneaking. You need to make

it clear that you are not being an over-protective, pain in the neck.

This is a serious medical issue.

You asked if allergies get worse with each exposure. Yes, they can

with true allergies.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

All kids try to get away with things when their parents aren't looking.

I have even heard the neighborhood kids telling my boys that it's okay

to " (whatever) " as long as I don't catch them.

It's very, very hard to keep a child who is on a restricted diet from

cheating. There are a few options. Put a t-shirt/dress on her that

is a very bright color- a day-glow color. Then go to each adult in

the room, point out who she is and that she needs to be watched at ALL

times. Go to whoever the leader is (teacher or minister) and explain

to them that if she is not watched 100% of the time, that you will

either have to attend with her or she will not be able to attend. She

is getting physically ill from what she is sneaking. You need to make

it clear that you are not being an over-protective, pain in the neck.

This is a serious medical issue.

You asked if allergies get worse with each exposure. Yes, they can

with true allergies.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

All kids try to get away with things when their parents aren't looking.

I have even heard the neighborhood kids telling my boys that it's okay

to " (whatever) " as long as I don't catch them.

It's very, very hard to keep a child who is on a restricted diet from

cheating. There are a few options. Put a t-shirt/dress on her that

is a very bright color- a day-glow color. Then go to each adult in

the room, point out who she is and that she needs to be watched at ALL

times. Go to whoever the leader is (teacher or minister) and explain

to them that if she is not watched 100% of the time, that you will

either have to attend with her or she will not be able to attend. She

is getting physically ill from what she is sneaking. You need to make

it clear that you are not being an over-protective, pain in the neck.

This is a serious medical issue.

You asked if allergies get worse with each exposure. Yes, they can

with true allergies.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03