Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Thanks for the article. I would imagine that the majority of rosaceans who do find that they flare from foods (certainly, some rosaceans have no problems with food at all) probably fall under the category described in his book, and they do not have food allergies or celiac disease. He says most people with rosacea have normal gastrointestinal tracts. Dr. Nase does state on page 100 that a minority may have gastrointestinal difficulties such as food allergies and celiac disease. These two things which cause gastrointestinal abnormalities may cause rosacea flares and progression of rosacea. The percentage of those suffering with food allergies and celiac disease is small and in the minority, even among rosacea sufferers. He states himself that the majority of people with rosacea have normal gastrointestinal tracts, which means they don't have food allergies or celiac disease. For those of us who notice certain foods trigger flares and do not have food allergies and do not have celiac disease, it is it is brought on by: " Foods,beverages, medications and supplements contain natural dilator substances, and can release dilators after being broken down in the gastrointestinal tract. These are both normal events which occur in all humans. If these substances reach high enough concentrations, they can cause widespread dilation of blood vessels and trigger facial flushing. This form of food flushing is, by far, the most common in rosacea sufferers(normal byproducts of ingested substances causing dilation). The hyper-reactive facial blood vessels of rosacea sufferers just can't handle these substances, even at normal concentrations. Some of the most important foods, beverages, medications, supplements that can cause dilation include: Foods that contain or release histamine (a potent dilator)...;foods or supplements that contain or release dilator prostaglandins. The most common example is niacin...;eating large amounts of simple sugars...can cause glucose levels in the blood stream to rise quickly and trigger skin flushing... " (page 101 of Dr. Nase's book.) I hope I'm not beating a dead horse here, but there are major differences with a rosacean who reacts to certain trigger foods with facial flushing and bumps, and one who has food allergies and celiac disease. A person who has food allergies and celiac disease will always have them even if their blood vessels get repaired and their rosacea goes away. A person who doesn't have food allergies or celiac disease, but has rosacea and has problems with certain foods triggering flares, will not have those flares occur once the damaged blood vessels get repaired and the rosacea goes away. I think that's a major difference between the two. Take care, Matija > Greetings, > > Here's an article from the BBC web site today on a British study indicating > that, though various food " intolerances " are fairly common > (i.e. " triggers " ?), actual food allergies that involve the immune response > are rather rare: > > Food Allergy Risk Over-estimated > > Millions of people mistakenly believe they are allergic to some types of > food. Researchers have found that one in three people believe they have a > true food allergy - but less than 2% actually do.More people are > self-diagnosing that they, or indeed their children have a food allergy, > and are eliminating certain food types from their diet > > The findings, from market analyst Datamonitor, suggest that many people are > avoiding certain types of food unnecessarily, possibly depriving themselves > of valuable nutrients in the process.The researchers say that part of the > problem is people are diagnosing themselves without ever seeing their > doctor. Even when medical advise is sought, the current tests are subjective > and not particularly accurate. > > A lack of certified allergists and the closure of allergy clinics is > compounding the problem. They also warn that people who are accurately > diagnosed face the twin problems of inadequate food labelling and a lack > of effective drugs to treat the condition. > > The researchers say many people think they are suffering from a food > allergy, when what they actually have is a food intolerance. > A true food allergy is an abnormal response to a food that is triggered by > the immune system. In its most extreme form this leads to potentially > life-threatening anaphylactic shock which requires emergency treatment > with the hormone adrenaline. > > A food intolerance does not trigger a life-threatening immunological > response, but can produce symptoms such as asthma, eczema or migraines. > The most common triggers for true food allergies are peanuts, milk and > seafood. Datamonitor estimates that up to 30% of allergic reactions occur > after a patient has eaten food that has not been properly labelled. > It says food labelling laws must be enforced more strongly. > Allergies can be triggered by as little as 1/1,000th of a peanut. > > The allergy rate among children is slightly higher than it is among adults. > However, a far greater percentage of children are misdiagnosed as having a > food allergy. In addition, research shows that most children will outgrow > their allergies.Silvia Anton, Healthcare Analyst at Datamonitor said: " As > society continues to become more health conscious, more and more people are > self-diagnosing that they, or indeed their children have a food allergy, and > are eliminating certain food types from their diet. > > " Future research much focus on developing more accurate diagnostic tests so > that those with a 'true' food allergy can be effectively identified, and in > educating doctors in spotting the symptoms of food allergies " . > Muriel , chief executive of the British Allergy Foundation, agreed > with the analysis that food intolerance was confused with food allergy. > But she told BBC News Online that it was not necessarily a bad thing if > people stopped eating food that did not agree with them - even if it was > simply an intolerance, rather than an allergy. She said: " Nobody is going > to cut something out of their diet without a reason, and if the body does > not like something it is better to avoid it. " > > Cheers > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Thanks for the article. I would imagine that the majority of rosaceans who do find that they flare from foods (certainly, some rosaceans have no problems with food at all) probably fall under the category described in his book, and they do not have food allergies or celiac disease. He says most people with rosacea have normal gastrointestinal tracts. Dr. Nase does state on page 100 that a minority may have gastrointestinal difficulties such as food allergies and celiac disease. These two things which cause gastrointestinal abnormalities may cause rosacea flares and progression of rosacea. The percentage of those suffering with food allergies and celiac disease is small and in the minority, even among rosacea sufferers. He states himself that the majority of people with rosacea have normal gastrointestinal tracts, which means they don't have food allergies or celiac disease. For those of us who notice certain foods trigger flares and do not have food allergies and do not have celiac disease, it is it is brought on by: " Foods,beverages, medications and supplements contain natural dilator substances, and can release dilators after being broken down in the gastrointestinal tract. These are both normal events which occur in all humans. If these substances reach high enough concentrations, they can cause widespread dilation of blood vessels and trigger facial flushing. This form of food flushing is, by far, the most common in rosacea sufferers(normal byproducts of ingested substances causing dilation). The hyper-reactive facial blood vessels of rosacea sufferers just can't handle these substances, even at normal concentrations. Some of the most important foods, beverages, medications, supplements that can cause dilation include: Foods that contain or release histamine (a potent dilator)...;foods or supplements that contain or release dilator prostaglandins. The most common example is niacin...;eating large amounts of simple sugars...can cause glucose levels in the blood stream to rise quickly and trigger skin flushing... " (page 101 of Dr. Nase's book.) I hope I'm not beating a dead horse here, but there are major differences with a rosacean who reacts to certain trigger foods with facial flushing and bumps, and one who has food allergies and celiac disease. A person who has food allergies and celiac disease will always have them even if their blood vessels get repaired and their rosacea goes away. A person who doesn't have food allergies or celiac disease, but has rosacea and has problems with certain foods triggering flares, will not have those flares occur once the damaged blood vessels get repaired and the rosacea goes away. I think that's a major difference between the two. Take care, Matija > Greetings, > > Here's an article from the BBC web site today on a British study indicating > that, though various food " intolerances " are fairly common > (i.e. " triggers " ?), actual food allergies that involve the immune response > are rather rare: > > Food Allergy Risk Over-estimated > > Millions of people mistakenly believe they are allergic to some types of > food. Researchers have found that one in three people believe they have a > true food allergy - but less than 2% actually do.More people are > self-diagnosing that they, or indeed their children have a food allergy, > and are eliminating certain food types from their diet > > The findings, from market analyst Datamonitor, suggest that many people are > avoiding certain types of food unnecessarily, possibly depriving themselves > of valuable nutrients in the process.The researchers say that part of the > problem is people are diagnosing themselves without ever seeing their > doctor. Even when medical advise is sought, the current tests are subjective > and not particularly accurate. > > A lack of certified allergists and the closure of allergy clinics is > compounding the problem. They also warn that people who are accurately > diagnosed face the twin problems of inadequate food labelling and a lack > of effective drugs to treat the condition. > > The researchers say many people think they are suffering from a food > allergy, when what they actually have is a food intolerance. > A true food allergy is an abnormal response to a food that is triggered by > the immune system. In its most extreme form this leads to potentially > life-threatening anaphylactic shock which requires emergency treatment > with the hormone adrenaline. > > A food intolerance does not trigger a life-threatening immunological > response, but can produce symptoms such as asthma, eczema or migraines. > The most common triggers for true food allergies are peanuts, milk and > seafood. Datamonitor estimates that up to 30% of allergic reactions occur > after a patient has eaten food that has not been properly labelled. > It says food labelling laws must be enforced more strongly. > Allergies can be triggered by as little as 1/1,000th of a peanut. > > The allergy rate among children is slightly higher than it is among adults. > However, a far greater percentage of children are misdiagnosed as having a > food allergy. In addition, research shows that most children will outgrow > their allergies.Silvia Anton, Healthcare Analyst at Datamonitor said: " As > society continues to become more health conscious, more and more people are > self-diagnosing that they, or indeed their children have a food allergy, and > are eliminating certain food types from their diet. > > " Future research much focus on developing more accurate diagnostic tests so > that those with a 'true' food allergy can be effectively identified, and in > educating doctors in spotting the symptoms of food allergies " . > Muriel , chief executive of the British Allergy Foundation, agreed > with the analysis that food intolerance was confused with food allergy. > But she told BBC News Online that it was not necessarily a bad thing if > people stopped eating food that did not agree with them - even if it was > simply an intolerance, rather than an allergy. She said: " Nobody is going > to cut something out of their diet without a reason, and if the body does > not like something it is better to avoid it. " > > Cheers > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Thanks for the article. I would imagine that the majority of rosaceans who do find that they flare from foods (certainly, some rosaceans have no problems with food at all) probably fall under the category described in his book, and they do not have food allergies or celiac disease. He says most people with rosacea have normal gastrointestinal tracts. Dr. Nase does state on page 100 that a minority may have gastrointestinal difficulties such as food allergies and celiac disease. These two things which cause gastrointestinal abnormalities may cause rosacea flares and progression of rosacea. The percentage of those suffering with food allergies and celiac disease is small and in the minority, even among rosacea sufferers. He states himself that the majority of people with rosacea have normal gastrointestinal tracts, which means they don't have food allergies or celiac disease. For those of us who notice certain foods trigger flares and do not have food allergies and do not have celiac disease, it is it is brought on by: " Foods,beverages, medications and supplements contain natural dilator substances, and can release dilators after being broken down in the gastrointestinal tract. These are both normal events which occur in all humans. If these substances reach high enough concentrations, they can cause widespread dilation of blood vessels and trigger facial flushing. This form of food flushing is, by far, the most common in rosacea sufferers(normal byproducts of ingested substances causing dilation). The hyper-reactive facial blood vessels of rosacea sufferers just can't handle these substances, even at normal concentrations. Some of the most important foods, beverages, medications, supplements that can cause dilation include: Foods that contain or release histamine (a potent dilator)...;foods or supplements that contain or release dilator prostaglandins. The most common example is niacin...;eating large amounts of simple sugars...can cause glucose levels in the blood stream to rise quickly and trigger skin flushing... " (page 101 of Dr. Nase's book.) I hope I'm not beating a dead horse here, but there are major differences with a rosacean who reacts to certain trigger foods with facial flushing and bumps, and one who has food allergies and celiac disease. A person who has food allergies and celiac disease will always have them even if their blood vessels get repaired and their rosacea goes away. A person who doesn't have food allergies or celiac disease, but has rosacea and has problems with certain foods triggering flares, will not have those flares occur once the damaged blood vessels get repaired and the rosacea goes away. I think that's a major difference between the two. Take care, Matija > Greetings, > > Here's an article from the BBC web site today on a British study indicating > that, though various food " intolerances " are fairly common > (i.e. " triggers " ?), actual food allergies that involve the immune response > are rather rare: > > Food Allergy Risk Over-estimated > > Millions of people mistakenly believe they are allergic to some types of > food. Researchers have found that one in three people believe they have a > true food allergy - but less than 2% actually do.More people are > self-diagnosing that they, or indeed their children have a food allergy, > and are eliminating certain food types from their diet > > The findings, from market analyst Datamonitor, suggest that many people are > avoiding certain types of food unnecessarily, possibly depriving themselves > of valuable nutrients in the process.The researchers say that part of the > problem is people are diagnosing themselves without ever seeing their > doctor. Even when medical advise is sought, the current tests are subjective > and not particularly accurate. > > A lack of certified allergists and the closure of allergy clinics is > compounding the problem. They also warn that people who are accurately > diagnosed face the twin problems of inadequate food labelling and a lack > of effective drugs to treat the condition. > > The researchers say many people think they are suffering from a food > allergy, when what they actually have is a food intolerance. > A true food allergy is an abnormal response to a food that is triggered by > the immune system. In its most extreme form this leads to potentially > life-threatening anaphylactic shock which requires emergency treatment > with the hormone adrenaline. > > A food intolerance does not trigger a life-threatening immunological > response, but can produce symptoms such as asthma, eczema or migraines. > The most common triggers for true food allergies are peanuts, milk and > seafood. Datamonitor estimates that up to 30% of allergic reactions occur > after a patient has eaten food that has not been properly labelled. > It says food labelling laws must be enforced more strongly. > Allergies can be triggered by as little as 1/1,000th of a peanut. > > The allergy rate among children is slightly higher than it is among adults. > However, a far greater percentage of children are misdiagnosed as having a > food allergy. In addition, research shows that most children will outgrow > their allergies.Silvia Anton, Healthcare Analyst at Datamonitor said: " As > society continues to become more health conscious, more and more people are > self-diagnosing that they, or indeed their children have a food allergy, and > are eliminating certain food types from their diet. > > " Future research much focus on developing more accurate diagnostic tests so > that those with a 'true' food allergy can be effectively identified, and in > educating doctors in spotting the symptoms of food allergies " . > Muriel , chief executive of the British Allergy Foundation, agreed > with the analysis that food intolerance was confused with food allergy. > But she told BBC News Online that it was not necessarily a bad thing if > people stopped eating food that did not agree with them - even if it was > simply an intolerance, rather than an allergy. She said: " Nobody is going > to cut something out of their diet without a reason, and if the body does > not like something it is better to avoid it. " > > Cheers > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 As a consumer, it is my experience that mainstream physicians consider only IgE responses to be allergies (the type to produce anaphylactic response within an hour), so these articles/letters are perhaps a bit misleading to people who don't realize this. I have qualms about reading about the hazards of " avoiding certain types of food unnecessarily, possibly depriving themselves of valuable nutrients in the process " . Sounds like fear mongering to me. There are so many food choices available nowadays that even removing something as commonplace as dairy isn't difficult and certainly doesn't lead to compromising anyone's health because of nutrient deficiency. Calcium fortified juices and soy milks abound. Similarly there are so many products now available designed for celiac individuals which will work perfectly for individuals wishing to test out whether wheat is the source of their skin problems. It seems to me (and doubtless many others) that if physicians wish to turn a blind eye to delayed food allergy, summarily dismissing it as food intolerance and implying it isn't worthy of their investigation, then the onus must lie with the patient to find their own allergens. The article acknowledges that " food intolerance does not trigger a life threatening immunological response, but can produce symptoms such as asthma, eczema or migraines " . Interesting since it wasn't long ago that eczema was considered to be a dermatological condition with no link whatsoever to food. Given the significant change in perspective in recent years, it perhaps isn't much of a leap to consider that some day soon other dermatological conditions like rosacea will also show that link It appears to be clearly defined that certain foods containing high natural levels of histamine can act as potential triggers of rosacea. In view of that, it would appear to be folly to ignore that an allergic response can cause the release of histamine from within cells. And there are numerous other cellular reactions which could potentially cause, so one need not focus solely on histamine. Finally, I find it intriguing to read about further research into " true " allergy identification tests in this article when it also says that only 2% of the population experience it. Reliable IgE tests exist. Perhaps some day soon the allergy researchers will take on the task of identifying exactly what is occurring in the body when delayed food allergies take place and developing a method (any method!) of identifying delayed food allergy. My apologies if my letter is a little disjointed. I've tried to make my thoughts coherent while amusing a six year old. Also, thanks to J Gleason for the letter mentioning IgG mediated allergic response. I've also heard that secretory IgA may be a factor in some delayed type allergic responses. (bits and pieces from the original post) >More people are > self-diagnosing that they, or indeed their children have a food allergy, > and are eliminating certain food types from their diet > The findings, from market analyst Datamonitor, suggest that many people are > avoiding certain types of food unnecessarily, possibly depriving themselves > of valuable nutrients in the process. > A food intolerance does not trigger a life-threatening immunological > response, but can produce symptoms such as asthma, eczema or migraines. >She said: " Nobody is going > to cut something out of their diet without a reason, and if the body does > not like something it is better to avoid it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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