Disillusionment with this board

March 20, 2002

Have there been any studies about the effects of blood-letting

on rosacea? I'm willing to try it.

Just kidding. I agree with your post. People are so frustrated

that they seem willing to try anything. I think the most impor-

tant thing is to start with a good baseline. That means avoid-

ing irritating soaps/cosmetics, eating a balanced diet, get-

ting enough rest, and reducing stress. At least that is the

approach I have decided to try.

Shane

March 20, 2002

Have there been any studies about the effects of blood-letting

on rosacea? I'm willing to try it.

Just kidding. I agree with your post. People are so frustrated

that they seem willing to try anything. I think the most impor-

tant thing is to start with a good baseline. That means avoid-

ing irritating soaps/cosmetics, eating a balanced diet, get-

ting enough rest, and reducing stress. At least that is the

approach I have decided to try.

Shane

March 20, 2002

Have there been any studies about the effects of blood-letting

on rosacea? I'm willing to try it.

Just kidding. I agree with your post. People are so frustrated

that they seem willing to try anything. I think the most impor-

tant thing is to start with a good baseline. That means avoid-

ing irritating soaps/cosmetics, eating a balanced diet, get-

ting enough rest, and reducing stress. At least that is the

approach I have decided to try.

Shane

March 20, 2002

When I first started coming here and looking at messages, I thought

that this board would help me with ideas for managing my rosacea.

While I have learned some things from this board, I have found that I

spend a lot of time sifting through stuff that is either purely

anecdotal or really off the wall.

I've seen people ask for opinions on whether or not to try a

particular product or treatment. If I hear about something

different, I will research it by going to reputable sites that

research this stuff. I have discovered that many of the things that

people here recommend or discuss are myths or even harmful.

One day, someone asked about shark cartilage. While many people

responded, I only saw one post that brought up the myth and used

common sense: you don't allow destruction of animals for something

that has no basis in truth!

Just because something was used for 500 years does not mean that it

was safe! 150 years ago, " doctors " routinely used blood-letting to

cure all kinds of ailments. Many women died in labor because doctors

would go from a typhoid patient to a pregnant woman without washing

his hands!

Just the other day, someone suggested that mercury fillings were

causing rosacea! Studies have shown that the mercury is not actually

swallowed, but exhaled from the mercury fillings. The amounts are

extremely minescule. The only people benefiting from yanking out

fillings and replacing them are crooked dentists! One woman ended up

having to lose teeth when there was nothing wrong with her fillings

in the first place!

Yet, the same people who will worry about the possibility of leaking

mercury are willing to ingest themselves with silver! There is

no " proven dosage " of colloidal silver, all studies show that while

there may be some things about it that may help the patient, that the

risks involved are horrendous!

From what I can tell, when someone suggests trying something, they

are so desperate for a solution that they ignore the warnings and

only listen to anyone who might possibly agree.

Want examples of why you should research these things thoroughly,

here are some links to look at:

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mercury.html

I know that everyone is distressed with rosacea. I have suffered

from it for over 10 years. However, I am not going to do something

to myself just because some guy gets on an infomercial and tells me

that he has a cure! There is a lot to lose - trying things that have

not been tested following the Scientific Method can actually cause

harm or even death!

I'm really hoping that this post is allowed, because I hope that it

will help SOMEONE out there. I know that many of you will scoff, and

I will probably get hate mail, but the fact is that too many people

are willing to try anything to relieve their problems and I can't

stand to see people harmed because of it.

March 20, 2002

Hi Shane,

--- sburton661@... wrote:

> Have there been any studies about the effects

> of blood-letting

> on rosacea? I'm willing to try it.

funny! there are sometimes " far out " things

posted on the list, but I think sometimes people

sort of flail around a little but then usually

settle into this baseline you are talking about.

> Just kidding. I agree with your post. People

> are so frustrated

> that they seem willing to try anything. I think

> the most impor-

> tant thing is to start with a good baseline.

> That means avoid-

> ing irritating soaps/cosmetics, eating a

> balanced diet, get-

> ting enough rest, and reducing stress. At least

> that is the

> approach I have decided to try.

>

> Shane

Hey, I'm glad to hear this! I've seen your posts

on this list and the diet one and I think you'll

be helped by this holistic approach. in any case

doing all those things can't hurt!

all the best,

carrie

__________________________________________________

March 20, 2002

Hi Shane,

--- sburton661@... wrote:

> Have there been any studies about the effects

> of blood-letting

> on rosacea? I'm willing to try it.

funny! there are sometimes " far out " things

posted on the list, but I think sometimes people

sort of flail around a little but then usually

settle into this baseline you are talking about.

> Just kidding. I agree with your post. People

> are so frustrated

> that they seem willing to try anything. I think

> the most impor-

> tant thing is to start with a good baseline.

> That means avoid-

> ing irritating soaps/cosmetics, eating a

> balanced diet, get-

> ting enough rest, and reducing stress. At least

> that is the

> approach I have decided to try.

>

> Shane

Hey, I'm glad to hear this! I've seen your posts

on this list and the diet one and I think you'll

be helped by this holistic approach. in any case

doing all those things can't hurt!

all the best,

carrie

__________________________________________________

March 20, 2002

Hi Shane,

--- sburton661@... wrote:

> Have there been any studies about the effects

> of blood-letting

> on rosacea? I'm willing to try it.

funny! there are sometimes " far out " things

posted on the list, but I think sometimes people

sort of flail around a little but then usually

settle into this baseline you are talking about.

> Just kidding. I agree with your post. People

> are so frustrated

> that they seem willing to try anything. I think

> the most impor-

> tant thing is to start with a good baseline.

> That means avoid-

> ing irritating soaps/cosmetics, eating a

> balanced diet, get-

> ting enough rest, and reducing stress. At least

> that is the

> approach I have decided to try.

>

> Shane

Hey, I'm glad to hear this! I've seen your posts

on this list and the diet one and I think you'll

be helped by this holistic approach. in any case

doing all those things can't hurt!

all the best,

carrie

__________________________________________________

March 20, 2002

I have been a member of the board for years now and I too see the same

things. My only advice to newbies and everyone at this point is to

purchase Dr. Nase's book and use that as a starting point.

Unfortunately, not everyone clearly thinks things out and we seem to

get a lot of this. What I have found beneficial are peoples reactions

to things such as photoderm, v-beam, etc and certain topicals. I dont

put a whole lot of stock in the things like dead sea salts, etc. It

seems those home remedies eventually just cause problems. You brought

up a good point, a lot of people are desperate and try desperatate

things. I have slowly gotten my rosacea better each year for the last

three years by using common sense and proven methods/techniques. When I

first started on this board I was trying everything and just getting

worse, I think because I too was desperate. It takes some time, but if

you persist and use common sense I think everyone should make improvements.

delusionalchickie wrote:

>When I first started coming here and looking at messages, I thought

>that this board would help me with ideas for managing my rosacea.

>

>While I have learned some things from this board, I have found that I

>spend a lot of time sifting through stuff that is either purely

>anecdotal or really off the wall.

>

>I've seen people ask for opinions on whether or not to try a

>particular product or treatment. If I hear about something

>different, I will research it by going to reputable sites that

>research this stuff. I have discovered that many of the things that

>people here recommend or discuss are myths or even harmful.

>

>One day, someone asked about shark cartilage. While many people

>responded, I only saw one post that brought up the myth and used

>common sense: you don't allow destruction of animals for something

>that has no basis in truth!

>

>Just because something was used for 500 years does not mean that it

>was safe! 150 years ago, " doctors " routinely used blood-letting to

>cure all kinds of ailments. Many women died in labor because doctors

>would go from a typhoid patient to a pregnant woman without washing

>his hands!

>

>Just the other day, someone suggested that mercury fillings were

>causing rosacea! Studies have shown that the mercury is not actually

>swallowed, but exhaled from the mercury fillings. The amounts are

>extremely minescule. The only people benefiting from yanking out

>fillings and replacing them are crooked dentists! One woman ended up

>having to lose teeth when there was nothing wrong with her fillings

>in the first place!

>

>Yet, the same people who will worry about the possibility of leaking

>mercury are willing to ingest themselves with silver! There is

>no " proven dosage " of colloidal silver, all studies show that while

>there may be some things about it that may help the patient, that the

>risks involved are horrendous!

>

>>From what I can tell, when someone suggests trying something, they

>are so desperate for a solution that they ignore the warnings and

>only listen to anyone who might possibly agree.

>

>Want examples of why you should research these things thoroughly,

>here are some links to look at:

>http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html

>

>http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mercury.html

>

>I know that everyone is distressed with rosacea. I have suffered

>from it for over 10 years. However, I am not going to do something

>to myself just because some guy gets on an infomercial and tells me

>that he has a cure! There is a lot to lose - trying things that have

>not been tested following the Scientific Method can actually cause

>harm or even death!

>

>I'm really hoping that this post is allowed, because I hope that it

>will help SOMEONE out there. I know that many of you will scoff, and

>I will probably get hate mail, but the fact is that too many people

>are willing to try anything to relieve their problems and I can't

>stand to see people harmed because of it.

>

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March 20, 2002