Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 As of yesturday I have stopped Minocycline and started Zithromax. I have been informed that there will be a period of time starting soon and lasting for up to four weeks where my skin might flare as a result of the minocycline leaving my system before i build up a zithromax level in my skin. Since antibiotics are theorized to work due to anti-inflammatory actions, I was wondering if there were any natural anti-inflammatories that I might be able to take for the next few weeks to minimize any flareups I might have. Perhaps an herbal supplement, or maybe a vitamin/nutrient found in certain foods or something? I realize there are ALOT of products out there that Claim to be anti-inflammatory, and I would prefer a product that can support its claim in some way. I realize I can't expect double-blind well-documented clinical studies or anything, but if possible would prefer something more than an unsubstantiated claim on a website. (Perhaps something people in this group have used effectively?) Unfortunately I have never had much luck with NSAIDS or Aspirin, which were the first things I thought of. Thanks as always Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 Adam, another alternative is to not micromanage your skin during this transition period -- accept that your skin may (or may not) get worse over the next month or two. I assume that changing antibiotics is one small part of a bigger picture: an overall management plan that you and your doctor have agreed on, where changes will be measured not by daily or weekly exacerabations and remissions but by overall skin health, as assessed over many months and years. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD > As of yesturday I have stopped Minocycline and started Zithromax. > I have been informed that there will be a period of time starting > soon and lasting for up to four weeks where my skin might flare > as a result of the minocycline leaving my system before i build > up a zithromax level in my skin. Since antibiotics are theorized > to work due to anti-inflammatory actions, I was wondering if > there were any natural anti-inflammatories that I might be able > to take for the next few weeks to minimize any flareups I might > have. Perhaps an herbal supplement, or maybe a vitamin/nutrient > found in certain foods or something? I realize there are ALOT of > products out there that Claim to be anti-inflammatory, and I > would prefer a product that can support its claim in some way. I > realize I can't expect double-blind well-documented clinical > studies or anything, but if possible would prefer something more > than an unsubstantiated claim on a website. (Perhaps something > people in this group have used effectively?) > > Unfortunately I have never had much luck with NSAIDS or Aspirin, > which were the first things I thought of. > > Thanks as always > > Adam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 You're definitely right about not basing long-term treatment goals on how the skin will look for a period of a few weeks. Thats something I'm pretty good at. Obviously no one wants to look bad when they can avoid it, but I realize this treatment is going to be a long-term process. I'm a little worried about allowing my skin to get bad at this time though because I still may be undergoing one more photoderm treatment, and flushing w/in two weeks after a treatment may have negative results on the treatment's effectiveness, so I was hoping to minimize the potential flares as much as possible. Unfortunately there's no way I could've waited another month or two to get off the minocycline. It was causing daily stomach pain that was so bad that it was even waking me up probably three nights a week. (Probiotics were not helping much, but this could be because i was on antibiotics for over two years before i started taking them) I realize Zithromax can cause stomach problems too, but I've been off the Minocycline for three days and already I feel a world of difference in my stomach! Adam Re: natural anti-inflammatories? > > Adam, another alternative is to not micromanage your skin during this > transition period -- accept that your skin may (or may not) get worse > over the next month or two. I assume that changing antibiotics is one > small part of a bigger picture: an overall management plan that you > and your doctor have agreed on, where changes will be measured not by > daily or weekly exacerabations and remissions but by overall skin > health, as assessed over many months and years. > > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > > > > As of yesturday I have stopped Minocycline and started Zithromax. > > I have been informed that there will be a period of time starting > > soon and lasting for up to four weeks where my skin might flare > > as a result of the minocycline leaving my system before i build > > up a zithromax level in my skin. Since antibiotics are theorized > > to work due to anti-inflammatory actions, I was wondering if > > there were any natural anti-inflammatories that I might be able > > to take for the next few weeks to minimize any flareups I might > > have. Perhaps an herbal supplement, or maybe a vitamin/nutrient > > found in certain foods or something? I realize there are ALOT of > > products out there that Claim to be anti-inflammatory, and I > > would prefer a product that can support its claim in some way. I > > realize I can't expect double-blind well-documented clinical > > studies or anything, but if possible would prefer something more > > than an unsubstantiated claim on a website. (Perhaps something > > people in this group have used effectively?) > > > > Unfortunately I have never had much luck with NSAIDS or Aspirin, > > which were the first things I thought of. > > > > Thanks as always > > > > Adam > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 You're definitely right about not basing long-term treatment goals on how the skin will look for a period of a few weeks. Thats something I'm pretty good at. Obviously no one wants to look bad when they can avoid it, but I realize this treatment is going to be a long-term process. I'm a little worried about allowing my skin to get bad at this time though because I still may be undergoing one more photoderm treatment, and flushing w/in two weeks after a treatment may have negative results on the treatment's effectiveness, so I was hoping to minimize the potential flares as much as possible. Unfortunately there's no way I could've waited another month or two to get off the minocycline. It was causing daily stomach pain that was so bad that it was even waking me up probably three nights a week. (Probiotics were not helping much, but this could be because i was on antibiotics for over two years before i started taking them) I realize Zithromax can cause stomach problems too, but I've been off the Minocycline for three days and already I feel a world of difference in my stomach! Adam Re: natural anti-inflammatories? > > Adam, another alternative is to not micromanage your skin during this > transition period -- accept that your skin may (or may not) get worse > over the next month or two. I assume that changing antibiotics is one > small part of a bigger picture: an overall management plan that you > and your doctor have agreed on, where changes will be measured not by > daily or weekly exacerabations and remissions but by overall skin > health, as assessed over many months and years. > > > Marjorie > > Marjorie Lazoff, MD > > > > > > > > > > > As of yesturday I have stopped Minocycline and started Zithromax. > > I have been informed that there will be a period of time starting > > soon and lasting for up to four weeks where my skin might flare > > as a result of the minocycline leaving my system before i build > > up a zithromax level in my skin. Since antibiotics are theorized > > to work due to anti-inflammatory actions, I was wondering if > > there were any natural anti-inflammatories that I might be able > > to take for the next few weeks to minimize any flareups I might > > have. Perhaps an herbal supplement, or maybe a vitamin/nutrient > > found in certain foods or something? I realize there are ALOT of > > products out there that Claim to be anti-inflammatory, and I > > would prefer a product that can support its claim in some way. I > > realize I can't expect double-blind well-documented clinical > > studies or anything, but if possible would prefer something more > > than an unsubstantiated claim on a website. (Perhaps something > > people in this group have used effectively?) > > > > Unfortunately I have never had much luck with NSAIDS or Aspirin, > > which were the first things I thought of. > > > > Thanks as always > > > > Adam > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 soft tissue doesn't fossilize often doesn't endure the millenia the way bones do ... we can tell someone's diet by the wear on their teeth but as for skin ... it might seem their secrets died with them. of course they didn't have industrialization there fore no pollution they might have used clay or mud as makeup but that actually cleans the skin too maybe mud.... hmmmm scrubbing the skin with clay but i bet they didn't bathe their skin twice a day the way we do ... i wonder if their pores got clogged prehistoric man with pimples? have you ever seen a chimp with a pustule? stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Perhaps this is the key. The key to preventing cancer and hear disease and such diseases is to eat the diet such as the " paleolithic diet " , based on the pre-industrial revolution foods/hunter gatherer foods, it would make sense that to help the skin, we look into paleolithic skincare. Does anyone know exactly what people put on their skin a very, very, very long time ago, before cetaphil, before tap water, before metrolotion, before dermatology even??? And, did people have acne and rosacea back then or clear skin? Did they shave or not? As far as sun exposure, perhaps this was minimized because people of ligher skin colors lived at the higher latitutes where the uv radiation was less, and the ozone was less depleted then. Maybe they did a lot of things at night and slept in the daytime... > > In a message dated 5/19/02 4:39:56 PM, ciz@m... writes: > > < people use to wash with back in the wild???>> > > the various oils > in various plants etc > contain cleaning emoliants > > just don't ask me what exactly > > i know there are strong > cleaning emolients in coconut .... > > stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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