Re: Cutanix Study Details

[Guest guest]

I hear you, but I still think you're being too generous, .

First, I would not compare Cutanix with either Dr. Sy or cea

Care -- I'm as convinced (as one can be) that both were and are

straightforward in their dealings with this group, but I'm not sure

we can say the same with Cutanix (maybe, but maybe not). Second, no

matter what audience it was written for, the study they described

wasn't blinded or controlled, and it used an arbitrary scoring scale.

I agree with englishtexvet -- I'm skeptical of even the best studies

sponsored by companies that create and market the product

being " tested. "

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

> Hi Marjorie,

>

> > In Dr. Pilcher's response to you, he said all three studies were

> > double-blind, placebo-controlled, but it sounded like he only

> > described one study to you -- the study we've already read, and

> > that's clearly neither blinded nor controlled.

>

> I think we have to consider the context of the original document we

> all read: Was it intended for the scientific community? Was it a

> press release? I believe it was compiled in response to an enquiry

> from a member of the public so for the moment I am tempted to give

> them the benefit of the doubt and assume they have done what their

> director of research says they have done.

>

> > Of course he's extremely prompt -- who signs his paycheck? It's

his

> > job to promote his company's product, you know?

>

> Personally, I welcome any company who engages with the rosacea

> community, especially as we've already heard at the level of CEO in

> one case and Director of Research in another. The majority of

> companies would simply pass a query through to a PR department

which

> may or may not respond. I think the community here is right to

> encourage new product developments, even without large clinical

> trials to back them up.

>

> We have seen this many times with members of this group being

> involved in the development of and positively awaiting products

such

> as Sy's Zinco (very well received by many) and the

ceacare

> Strontium Products (more of a mixed review!). The word soon gets

out

> about people's personal experiences with these products on their

> faces. As we know, Metrogel has proved itself on a number of

> measurements in numerous clinical trials, many are unhappy with

what

> this translates to on their own faces.

>

> I think we have to accept that large-scale clinical trials of these

> products are not always possible, but that if what Cutanix is

saying

> is true and that these products have been in a small double-blind

> placebo controlled trial, it is as good as we can expect. For the

> moment, new rosacea products *will* come from smaller

pharmaceutical

> and cosmetic companies.

>

> Cheers,

>

> .