what could the constipation-Jeni

[Guest guest]

Hi Kelli!

I definitely started out with the intro.

This is what Day 1 and 2 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, homemade jello

Lunch: chicken soup (p. 91 BTVC)

Dinner: broiled hamburger, homemade jello

This is what Day 3 and 4 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, applesauce, homemade jello

Lunch: chicken soup

Dinner: broiled hamburger, homemade jello

This is what Day 5 and 6 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin (p. 121 BTVC), stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger jello

This is what Day 7 and 8 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, green beans, homemade jello

This is what Day 9 and 10 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, green beans

This is what Day 11 and 12 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: Broiled hamburger, squash

(On day 12 I had planned to implement Elaine's constipation protocol of prune

juice, orange juice, and hot tea. But I reacted badly to the legal o.j. with

excessive mucus in my nose and throat. I ended up forsaking this part of the

constipation protocol. And it turned out that I didn't need it anyway. I was

having regular bowels by this time.)

This is what Day 13 and 14 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This is what Day 15 and 16 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, banana, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

(On Day 16 I had planned to begin implementing the use of a suppository for

constipation. But this proved to be unnecessary.)

This is what Day 17 and 18 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, spinach, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This is what Day 19 and Day 20 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, zucchini, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This was my schedule and not my childrens' schedule. I have had to rotate foods

more frequently for them due to my infant's leaky gut and my other two that I

suspect have leaky gut.

I hope this helps you get a little bit of a head start. It worked for me. I do

want to clarify that everything was deseeded, cooked, and sometimes pureed

according to the BTVC recommendations. Good luck! Post again if you need me.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems, add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema . . . though this is

improving again)

SCD 3 months

Re: what could the constipation

Hi Gwen!

I am glad to hear that your son is not constipated on the diet. My children

were when we began. They had already struggled with this pre-SCD, but it

temporarily worsened. I think this was because it took us a while to

introduce enough carbohydrates, and it took me a while to catch on to the

dehydration issue.

You mentioned weight gain. I can't make any promises for your son, but I

can relay my experience. My son, who was " overweight " and constantly

bloated (lovingly teased for his pregnant appearance), slimmed down

drastically. He is a sturdy, tough little guy who currently has a very

healthy stature. I look at him everyday and am stunned by his radiant

good-looks and healthy appearance. On the other hand, my infant was born in

the 95% and dropped below 50% pre-SCD. She weighed approximately 17 lb. at

1 year old. After being on SCD, she gained 3 lbs in 1 month. My oldest

also gained some more weight and is looking a little more robust and healthy

these days. My thought is that when you are feeding your body the food that

it needs, your body will approach its appropriate weight (whether that be

losing or gaining).

The beginning of the diet is a bit hairy since your body has to go through

significant changes; however, if you adhere to it and give any needed

supplements, you will probably find pleasant progress in your son's weight.

You are wise to be cautious about relying on supplements for chronic

constipation. I know that I am not personally knowledgable enough to jump

into supplement use without guidance. That is why I said " look into the

need " rather than " just do it. " If you are wary of specific

supplementation, then do not do it. Our family gets help in this area from

a nutritionist who works with our DAN. My children have deficiencies in

these minerals and vitamins so we do have a need for them; however, you

don't want to just randomly start administering these things. You are

right, there could be consequences to such uninformed actions.

When I state that I have GI troubles, I state it that way because they are

undiagnosed. I am not sure where my problems rank in comparison to others.

We don't have the finances to investigate my problems because all of our

money is going to the treatment of our kids.

I am not debilitated in the sense that my life is disrupted. It does,

however, drastically affect my emotions. My symptoms pre-SCD were very

irregular and somewhat foul bowels. They came about every 4th day. I was

very constipated with numerous hemrhoids (sp?). The colors were all over

the map, and I frequently passed undigested food.

I was very nasty to everyone on days that I didn't poop. I also would get

headaches (those were debilitating). My skin was horrible. I had terrible

acne. I frequently felt bloated.

I have only been SCD 1 month, but I pass a bowel almost everyday now. I

also pass it at almost the same time everyday. They are well-formed without

being impacted, and the only thing that I am not completely digesting at our

stage in the diet are the tiny pieces of almond in the almond flour that I

grind for my muffin (from Elaine's consitipation protocol). My favorite

part is that I pass these beautifully formed, correctly colored, stools with

great ease. It is practically the highlight of my day .

I can still get cranky on days when I don't poop, but that is not nearly as

frequent. Also, I am much more aware that I am cranky for that reason which

makes it easier for me to control it. I don't get headaches at all anymore

(except on occasion when it is due to my neck being out of alignment). My

skin is gradually improving. I still have some breakouts prior to

menstration (sorry to be so graphic), but they are not as severe. I am

hoping that this will continue to improve as my hormones come more into

balance as a result of good nutrition. And I am never bloated anymore. I

have slimmed down so much that I have the waist, hips, and thieghs of a fit

teen-ager. Now if I could just get back my pre-breastfeeding boobs that

would really be something !

I hope you find this helpful. If you have more questions, I would be happy

to answer.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems,

add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema)

SCD 3 months

[Guest guest]

Hi Kelli!

I definitely started out with the intro.

This is what Day 1 and 2 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, homemade jello

Lunch: chicken soup (p. 91 BTVC)

Dinner: broiled hamburger, homemade jello

This is what Day 3 and 4 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, applesauce, homemade jello

Lunch: chicken soup

Dinner: broiled hamburger, homemade jello

This is what Day 5 and 6 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin (p. 121 BTVC), stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger jello

This is what Day 7 and 8 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, green beans, homemade jello

This is what Day 9 and 10 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, green beans

This is what Day 11 and 12 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: Broiled hamburger, squash

(On day 12 I had planned to implement Elaine's constipation protocol of prune

juice, orange juice, and hot tea. But I reacted badly to the legal o.j. with

excessive mucus in my nose and throat. I ended up forsaking this part of the

constipation protocol. And it turned out that I didn't need it anyway. I was

having regular bowels by this time.)

This is what Day 13 and 14 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This is what Day 15 and 16 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, banana, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

(On Day 16 I had planned to begin implementing the use of a suppository for

constipation. But this proved to be unnecessary.)

This is what Day 17 and 18 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, spinach, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This is what Day 19 and Day 20 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, zucchini, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This was my schedule and not my childrens' schedule. I have had to rotate foods

more frequently for them due to my infant's leaky gut and my other two that I

suspect have leaky gut.

I hope this helps you get a little bit of a head start. It worked for me. I do

want to clarify that everything was deseeded, cooked, and sometimes pureed

according to the BTVC recommendations. Good luck! Post again if you need me.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems, add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema . . . though this is

improving again)

SCD 3 months

Re: what could the constipation

Hi Gwen!

I am glad to hear that your son is not constipated on the diet. My children

were when we began. They had already struggled with this pre-SCD, but it

temporarily worsened. I think this was because it took us a while to

introduce enough carbohydrates, and it took me a while to catch on to the

dehydration issue.

You mentioned weight gain. I can't make any promises for your son, but I

can relay my experience. My son, who was " overweight " and constantly

bloated (lovingly teased for his pregnant appearance), slimmed down

drastically. He is a sturdy, tough little guy who currently has a very

healthy stature. I look at him everyday and am stunned by his radiant

good-looks and healthy appearance. On the other hand, my infant was born in

the 95% and dropped below 50% pre-SCD. She weighed approximately 17 lb. at

1 year old. After being on SCD, she gained 3 lbs in 1 month. My oldest

also gained some more weight and is looking a little more robust and healthy

these days. My thought is that when you are feeding your body the food that

it needs, your body will approach its appropriate weight (whether that be

losing or gaining).

The beginning of the diet is a bit hairy since your body has to go through

significant changes; however, if you adhere to it and give any needed

supplements, you will probably find pleasant progress in your son's weight.

You are wise to be cautious about relying on supplements for chronic

constipation. I know that I am not personally knowledgable enough to jump

into supplement use without guidance. That is why I said " look into the

need " rather than " just do it. " If you are wary of specific

supplementation, then do not do it. Our family gets help in this area from

a nutritionist who works with our DAN. My children have deficiencies in

these minerals and vitamins so we do have a need for them; however, you

don't want to just randomly start administering these things. You are

right, there could be consequences to such uninformed actions.

When I state that I have GI troubles, I state it that way because they are

undiagnosed. I am not sure where my problems rank in comparison to others.

We don't have the finances to investigate my problems because all of our

money is going to the treatment of our kids.

I am not debilitated in the sense that my life is disrupted. It does,

however, drastically affect my emotions. My symptoms pre-SCD were very

irregular and somewhat foul bowels. They came about every 4th day. I was

very constipated with numerous hemrhoids (sp?). The colors were all over

the map, and I frequently passed undigested food.

I was very nasty to everyone on days that I didn't poop. I also would get

headaches (those were debilitating). My skin was horrible. I had terrible

acne. I frequently felt bloated.

I have only been SCD 1 month, but I pass a bowel almost everyday now. I

also pass it at almost the same time everyday. They are well-formed without

being impacted, and the only thing that I am not completely digesting at our

stage in the diet are the tiny pieces of almond in the almond flour that I

grind for my muffin (from Elaine's consitipation protocol). My favorite

part is that I pass these beautifully formed, correctly colored, stools with

great ease. It is practically the highlight of my day .

I can still get cranky on days when I don't poop, but that is not nearly as

frequent. Also, I am much more aware that I am cranky for that reason which

makes it easier for me to control it. I don't get headaches at all anymore

(except on occasion when it is due to my neck being out of alignment). My

skin is gradually improving. I still have some breakouts prior to

menstration (sorry to be so graphic), but they are not as severe. I am

hoping that this will continue to improve as my hormones come more into

balance as a result of good nutrition. And I am never bloated anymore. I

have slimmed down so much that I have the waist, hips, and thieghs of a fit

teen-ager. Now if I could just get back my pre-breastfeeding boobs that

would really be something !

I hope you find this helpful. If you have more questions, I would be happy

to answer.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems,

add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema)

SCD 3 months

[Guest guest]

Hi Kelli!

I definitely started out with the intro.

This is what Day 1 and 2 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, homemade jello

Lunch: chicken soup (p. 91 BTVC)

Dinner: broiled hamburger, homemade jello

This is what Day 3 and 4 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, applesauce, homemade jello

Lunch: chicken soup

Dinner: broiled hamburger, homemade jello

This is what Day 5 and 6 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin (p. 121 BTVC), stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger jello

This is what Day 7 and 8 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, green beans, homemade jello

This is what Day 9 and 10 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, green beans

This is what Day 11 and 12 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: Broiled hamburger, squash

(On day 12 I had planned to implement Elaine's constipation protocol of prune

juice, orange juice, and hot tea. But I reacted badly to the legal o.j. with

excessive mucus in my nose and throat. I ended up forsaking this part of the

constipation protocol. And it turned out that I didn't need it anyway. I was

having regular bowels by this time.)

This is what Day 13 and 14 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This is what Day 15 and 16 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, banana, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

(On Day 16 I had planned to begin implementing the use of a suppository for

constipation. But this proved to be unnecessary.)

This is what Day 17 and 18 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, spinach, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This is what Day 19 and Day 20 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, zucchini, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This was my schedule and not my childrens' schedule. I have had to rotate foods

more frequently for them due to my infant's leaky gut and my other two that I

suspect have leaky gut.

I hope this helps you get a little bit of a head start. It worked for me. I do

want to clarify that everything was deseeded, cooked, and sometimes pureed

according to the BTVC recommendations. Good luck! Post again if you need me.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems, add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema . . . though this is

improving again)

SCD 3 months

Re: what could the constipation

Hi Gwen!

I am glad to hear that your son is not constipated on the diet. My children

were when we began. They had already struggled with this pre-SCD, but it

temporarily worsened. I think this was because it took us a while to

introduce enough carbohydrates, and it took me a while to catch on to the

dehydration issue.

You mentioned weight gain. I can't make any promises for your son, but I

can relay my experience. My son, who was " overweight " and constantly

bloated (lovingly teased for his pregnant appearance), slimmed down

drastically. He is a sturdy, tough little guy who currently has a very

healthy stature. I look at him everyday and am stunned by his radiant

good-looks and healthy appearance. On the other hand, my infant was born in

the 95% and dropped below 50% pre-SCD. She weighed approximately 17 lb. at

1 year old. After being on SCD, she gained 3 lbs in 1 month. My oldest

also gained some more weight and is looking a little more robust and healthy

these days. My thought is that when you are feeding your body the food that

it needs, your body will approach its appropriate weight (whether that be

losing or gaining).

The beginning of the diet is a bit hairy since your body has to go through

significant changes; however, if you adhere to it and give any needed

supplements, you will probably find pleasant progress in your son's weight.

You are wise to be cautious about relying on supplements for chronic

constipation. I know that I am not personally knowledgable enough to jump

into supplement use without guidance. That is why I said " look into the

need " rather than " just do it. " If you are wary of specific

supplementation, then do not do it. Our family gets help in this area from

a nutritionist who works with our DAN. My children have deficiencies in

these minerals and vitamins so we do have a need for them; however, you

don't want to just randomly start administering these things. You are

right, there could be consequences to such uninformed actions.

When I state that I have GI troubles, I state it that way because they are

undiagnosed. I am not sure where my problems rank in comparison to others.

We don't have the finances to investigate my problems because all of our

money is going to the treatment of our kids.

I am not debilitated in the sense that my life is disrupted. It does,

however, drastically affect my emotions. My symptoms pre-SCD were very

irregular and somewhat foul bowels. They came about every 4th day. I was

very constipated with numerous hemrhoids (sp?). The colors were all over

the map, and I frequently passed undigested food.

I was very nasty to everyone on days that I didn't poop. I also would get

headaches (those were debilitating). My skin was horrible. I had terrible

acne. I frequently felt bloated.

I have only been SCD 1 month, but I pass a bowel almost everyday now. I

also pass it at almost the same time everyday. They are well-formed without

being impacted, and the only thing that I am not completely digesting at our

stage in the diet are the tiny pieces of almond in the almond flour that I

grind for my muffin (from Elaine's consitipation protocol). My favorite

part is that I pass these beautifully formed, correctly colored, stools with

great ease. It is practically the highlight of my day .

I can still get cranky on days when I don't poop, but that is not nearly as

frequent. Also, I am much more aware that I am cranky for that reason which

makes it easier for me to control it. I don't get headaches at all anymore

(except on occasion when it is due to my neck being out of alignment). My

skin is gradually improving. I still have some breakouts prior to

menstration (sorry to be so graphic), but they are not as severe. I am

hoping that this will continue to improve as my hormones come more into

balance as a result of good nutrition. And I am never bloated anymore. I

have slimmed down so much that I have the waist, hips, and thieghs of a fit

teen-ager. Now if I could just get back my pre-breastfeeding boobs that

would really be something !

I hope you find this helpful. If you have more questions, I would be happy

to answer.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems,

add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema)

SCD 3 months

[Guest guest]

You may want to eliminate the nut muffin if that is the case. Normally, nuts

and nut flour aren't introduced until after 3 months on the diet. And if you

don't puree the stewed prunes, you may want to eliminate this as well until a

later time. The skins can prove difficult to completely digest. You may find

that you system heals more quickly if you don't have to introduce these so early

in the diet. Other than that, my thought is you would be fine leaving it as is.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

Re: what could the constipation

Hi Gwen!

I am glad to hear that your son is not constipated on the diet. My

children

were when we began. They had already struggled with this pre-SCD, but it

temporarily worsened. I think this was because it took us a while to

introduce enough carbohydrates, and it took me a while to catch on to the

dehydration issue.

You mentioned weight gain. I can't make any promises for your son, but I

can relay my experience. My son, who was " overweight " and constantly

bloated (lovingly teased for his pregnant appearance), slimmed down

drastically. He is a sturdy, tough little guy who currently has a very

healthy stature. I look at him everyday and am stunned by his radiant

good-looks and healthy appearance. On the other hand, my infant was born

in

the 95% and dropped below 50% pre-SCD. She weighed approximately 17 lb.

at

1 year old. After being on SCD, she gained 3 lbs in 1 month. My oldest

also gained some more weight and is looking a little more robust and

healthy

these days. My thought is that when you are feeding your body the food

that

it needs, your body will approach its appropriate weight (whether that be

losing or gaining).

The beginning of the diet is a bit hairy since your body has to go through

significant changes; however, if you adhere to it and give any needed

supplements, you will probably find pleasant progress in your son's

weight.

You are wise to be cautious about relying on supplements for chronic

constipation. I know that I am not personally knowledgable enough to jump

into supplement use without guidance. That is why I said " look into the

need " rather than " just do it. " If you are wary of specific

supplementation, then do not do it. Our family gets help in this area

from

a nutritionist who works with our DAN. My children have deficiencies in

these minerals and vitamins so we do have a need for them; however, you

don't want to just randomly start administering these things. You are

right, there could be consequences to such uninformed actions.

When I state that I have GI troubles, I state it that way because they are

undiagnosed. I am not sure where my problems rank in comparison to

others.

We don't have the finances to investigate my problems because all of our

money is going to the treatment of our kids.

I am not debilitated in the sense that my life is disrupted. It does,

however, drastically affect my emotions. My symptoms pre-SCD were very

irregular and somewhat foul bowels. They came about every 4th day. I was

very constipated with numerous hemrhoids (sp?). The colors were all over

the map, and I frequently passed undigested food.

I was very nasty to everyone on days that I didn't poop. I also would get

headaches (those were debilitating). My skin was horrible. I had

terrible

acne. I frequently felt bloated.

I have only been SCD 1 month, but I pass a bowel almost everyday now. I

also pass it at almost the same time everyday. They are well-formed

without

being impacted, and the only thing that I am not completely digesting at

our

stage in the diet are the tiny pieces of almond in the almond flour that I

grind for my muffin (from Elaine's consitipation protocol). My favorite

part is that I pass these beautifully formed, correctly colored, stools

with

great ease. It is practically the highlight of my day .

I can still get cranky on days when I don't poop, but that is not nearly

as

frequent. Also, I am much more aware that I am cranky for that reason

which

makes it easier for me to control it. I don't get headaches at all

anymore

(except on occasion when it is due to my neck being out of alignment). My

skin is gradually improving. I still have some breakouts prior to

menstration (sorry to be so graphic), but they are not as severe. I am

hoping that this will continue to improve as my hormones come more into

balance as a result of good nutrition. And I am never bloated anymore. I

have slimmed down so much that I have the waist, hips, and thieghs of a

fit

teen-ager. Now if I could just get back my pre-breastfeeding boobs that

would really be something !

I hope you find this helpful. If you have more questions, I would be

happy

to answer.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems,

add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema)

SCD 3 months

[Guest guest]

I saw your post and I wanted to ask you if you did the intro with the diet

and move through stages slowly? I am asking because you described me pretty

well in this post and I would like to rid of this bloat!

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Knopp

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:57 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: what could the constipation

Hi Gwen!

I am glad to hear that your son is not constipated on the diet. My children

were when we began. They had already struggled with this pre-SCD, but it

temporarily worsened. I think this was because it took us a while to

introduce enough carbohydrates, and it took me a while to catch on to the

dehydration issue.

You mentioned weight gain. I can't make any promises for your son, but I

can relay my experience. My son, who was " overweight " and constantly

bloated (lovingly teased for his pregnant appearance), slimmed down

drastically. He is a sturdy, tough little guy who currently has a very

healthy stature. I look at him everyday and am stunned by his radiant

good-looks and healthy appearance. On the other hand, my infant was born in

the 95% and dropped below 50% pre-SCD. She weighed approximately 17 lb. at

1 year old. After being on SCD, she gained 3 lbs in 1 month. My oldest

also gained some more weight and is looking a little more robust and healthy

these days. My thought is that when you are feeding your body the food that

it needs, your body will approach its appropriate weight (whether that be

losing or gaining).

The beginning of the diet is a bit hairy since your body has to go through

significant changes; however, if you adhere to it and give any needed

supplements, you will probably find pleasant progress in your son's weight.

You are wise to be cautious about relying on supplements for chronic

constipation. I know that I am not personally knowledgable enough to jump

into supplement use without guidance. That is why I said " look into the

need " rather than " just do it. " If you are wary of specific

supplementation, then do not do it. Our family gets help in this area from

a nutritionist who works with our DAN. My children have deficiencies in

these minerals and vitamins so we do have a need for them; however, you

don't want to just randomly start administering these things. You are

right, there could be consequences to such uninformed actions.

When I state that I have GI troubles, I state it that way because they are

undiagnosed. I am not sure where my problems rank in comparison to others.

We don't have the finances to investigate my problems because all of our

money is going to the treatment of our kids.

I am not debilitated in the sense that my life is disrupted. It does,

however, drastically affect my emotions. My symptoms pre-SCD were very

irregular and somewhat foul bowels. They came about every 4th day. I was

very constipated with numerous hemrhoids (sp?). The colors were all over

the map, and I frequently passed undigested food.

I was very nasty to everyone on days that I didn't poop. I also would get

headaches (those were debilitating). My skin was horrible. I had terrible

acne. I frequently felt bloated.

I have only been SCD 1 month, but I pass a bowel almost everyday now. I

also pass it at almost the same time everyday. They are well-formed without

being impacted, and the only thing that I am not completely digesting at our

stage in the diet are the tiny pieces of almond in the almond flour that I

grind for my muffin (from Elaine's consitipation protocol). My favorite

part is that I pass these beautifully formed, correctly colored, stools with

great ease. It is practically the highlight of my day .

I can still get cranky on days when I don't poop, but that is not nearly as

frequent. Also, I am much more aware that I am cranky for that reason which

makes it easier for me to control it. I don't get headaches at all anymore

(except on occasion when it is due to my neck being out of alignment). My

skin is gradually improving. I still have some breakouts prior to

menstration (sorry to be so graphic), but they are not as severe. I am

hoping that this will continue to improve as my hormones come more into

balance as a result of good nutrition. And I am never bloated anymore. I

have slimmed down so much that I have the waist, hips, and thieghs of a fit

teen-ager. Now if I could just get back my pre-breastfeeding boobs that

would really be something !

I hope you find this helpful. If you have more questions, I would be happy

to answer.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems,

add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema)

SCD 3 months

[Guest guest]

Hi, thank you so much for this! I do not have constipation though but the

bloating is severe. Do you think I should alter it because of that?

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Knopp

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:23 AM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: what could the constipation-Jeni

Hi Kelli!

I definitely started out with the intro.

This is what Day 1 and 2 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, homemade jello

Lunch: chicken soup (p. 91 BTVC)

Dinner: broiled hamburger, homemade jello

This is what Day 3 and 4 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, applesauce, homemade jello

Lunch: chicken soup

Dinner: broiled hamburger, homemade jello

This is what Day 5 and 6 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin (p. 121 BTVC), stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger jello

This is what Day 7 and 8 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, green beans, homemade jello

This is what Day 9 and 10 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, green beans

This is what Day 11 and 12 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: Broiled hamburger, squash

(On day 12 I had planned to implement Elaine's constipation protocol of

prune juice, orange juice, and hot tea. But I reacted badly to the legal

o.j. with excessive mucus in my nose and throat. I ended up forsaking this

part of the constipation protocol. And it turned out that I didn't need it

anyway. I was having regular bowels by this time.)

This is what Day 13 and 14 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This is what Day 15 and 16 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, banana, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

(On Day 16 I had planned to begin implementing the use of a suppository for

constipation. But this proved to be unnecessary.)

This is what Day 17 and 18 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, spinach, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This is what Day 19 and Day 20 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, zucchini, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This was my schedule and not my childrens' schedule. I have had to rotate

foods more frequently for them due to my infant's leaky gut and my other two

that I suspect have leaky gut.

I hope this helps you get a little bit of a head start. It worked for me.

I do want to clarify that everything was deseeded, cooked, and sometimes

pureed according to the BTVC recommendations. Good luck! Post again if you

need me.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems,

add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema . . . though this is

improving again)

SCD 3 months

Re: what could the constipation

Hi Gwen!

I am glad to hear that your son is not constipated on the diet. My

children

were when we began. They had already struggled with this pre-SCD, but it

temporarily worsened. I think this was because it took us a while to

introduce enough carbohydrates, and it took me a while to catch on to the

dehydration issue.

You mentioned weight gain. I can't make any promises for your son, but I

can relay my experience. My son, who was " overweight " and constantly

bloated (lovingly teased for his pregnant appearance), slimmed down

drastically. He is a sturdy, tough little guy who currently has a very

healthy stature. I look at him everyday and am stunned by his radiant

good-looks and healthy appearance. On the other hand, my infant was born

in

the 95% and dropped below 50% pre-SCD. She weighed approximately 17 lb.

at

1 year old. After being on SCD, she gained 3 lbs in 1 month. My oldest

also gained some more weight and is looking a little more robust and

healthy

these days. My thought is that when you are feeding your body the food

that

it needs, your body will approach its appropriate weight (whether that be

losing or gaining).

The beginning of the diet is a bit hairy since your body has to go through

significant changes; however, if you adhere to it and give any needed

supplements, you will probably find pleasant progress in your son's

weight.

You are wise to be cautious about relying on supplements for chronic

constipation. I know that I am not personally knowledgable enough to jump

into supplement use without guidance. That is why I said " look into the

need " rather than " just do it. " If you are wary of specific

supplementation, then do not do it. Our family gets help in this area

from

a nutritionist who works with our DAN. My children have deficiencies in

these minerals and vitamins so we do have a need for them; however, you

don't want to just randomly start administering these things. You are

right, there could be consequences to such uninformed actions.

When I state that I have GI troubles, I state it that way because they are

undiagnosed. I am not sure where my problems rank in comparison to

others.

We don't have the finances to investigate my problems because all of our

money is going to the treatment of our kids.

I am not debilitated in the sense that my life is disrupted. It does,

however, drastically affect my emotions. My symptoms pre-SCD were very

irregular and somewhat foul bowels. They came about every 4th day. I was

very constipated with numerous hemrhoids (sp?). The colors were all over

the map, and I frequently passed undigested food.

I was very nasty to everyone on days that I didn't poop. I also would get

headaches (those were debilitating). My skin was horrible. I had

terrible

acne. I frequently felt bloated.

I have only been SCD 1 month, but I pass a bowel almost everyday now. I

also pass it at almost the same time everyday. They are well-formed

without

being impacted, and the only thing that I am not completely digesting at

our

stage in the diet are the tiny pieces of almond in the almond flour that I

grind for my muffin (from Elaine's consitipation protocol). My favorite

part is that I pass these beautifully formed, correctly colored, stools

with

great ease. It is practically the highlight of my day .

I can still get cranky on days when I don't poop, but that is not nearly

as

frequent. Also, I am much more aware that I am cranky for that reason

which

makes it easier for me to control it. I don't get headaches at all

anymore

(except on occasion when it is due to my neck being out of alignment). My

skin is gradually improving. I still have some breakouts prior to

menstration (sorry to be so graphic), but they are not as severe. I am

hoping that this will continue to improve as my hormones come more into

balance as a result of good nutrition. And I am never bloated anymore. I

have slimmed down so much that I have the waist, hips, and thieghs of a

fit

teen-ager. Now if I could just get back my pre-breastfeeding boobs that

would really be something !

I hope you find this helpful. If you have more questions, I would be

happy

to answer.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems,

add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema)

SCD 3 months

[Guest guest]

Hi, thank you so much for this! I do not have constipation though but the

bloating is severe. Do you think I should alter it because of that?

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Knopp

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:23 AM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: what could the constipation-Jeni

Hi Kelli!

I definitely started out with the intro.

This is what Day 1 and 2 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, homemade jello

Lunch: chicken soup (p. 91 BTVC)

Dinner: broiled hamburger, homemade jello

This is what Day 3 and 4 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, applesauce, homemade jello

Lunch: chicken soup

Dinner: broiled hamburger, homemade jello

This is what Day 5 and 6 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin (p. 121 BTVC), stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger jello

This is what Day 7 and 8 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, green beans, homemade jello

This is what Day 9 and 10 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, green beans

This is what Day 11 and 12 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: Broiled hamburger, squash

(On day 12 I had planned to implement Elaine's constipation protocol of

prune juice, orange juice, and hot tea. But I reacted badly to the legal

o.j. with excessive mucus in my nose and throat. I ended up forsaking this

part of the constipation protocol. And it turned out that I didn't need it

anyway. I was having regular bowels by this time.)

This is what Day 13 and 14 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, pearsauce, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This is what Day 15 and 16 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, banana, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

(On Day 16 I had planned to begin implementing the use of a suppository for

constipation. But this proved to be unnecessary.)

This is what Day 17 and 18 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: roasted turkey, spinach, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This is what Day 19 and Day 20 looked like:

Breakfast: eggs, nut muffin, stewed prunes

Lunch: chicken soup, zucchini, homemade jello

Dinner: broiled hamburger, squash

This was my schedule and not my childrens' schedule. I have had to rotate

foods more frequently for them due to my infant's leaky gut and my other two

that I suspect have leaky gut.

I hope this helps you get a little bit of a head start. It worked for me.

I do want to clarify that everything was deseeded, cooked, and sometimes

pureed according to the BTVC recommendations. Good luck! Post again if you

need me.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems,

add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema . . . though this is

improving again)

SCD 3 months

Re: what could the constipation

Hi Gwen!

I am glad to hear that your son is not constipated on the diet. My

children

were when we began. They had already struggled with this pre-SCD, but it

temporarily worsened. I think this was because it took us a while to

introduce enough carbohydrates, and it took me a while to catch on to the

dehydration issue.

You mentioned weight gain. I can't make any promises for your son, but I

can relay my experience. My son, who was " overweight " and constantly

bloated (lovingly teased for his pregnant appearance), slimmed down

drastically. He is a sturdy, tough little guy who currently has a very

healthy stature. I look at him everyday and am stunned by his radiant

good-looks and healthy appearance. On the other hand, my infant was born

in

the 95% and dropped below 50% pre-SCD. She weighed approximately 17 lb.

at

1 year old. After being on SCD, she gained 3 lbs in 1 month. My oldest

also gained some more weight and is looking a little more robust and

healthy

these days. My thought is that when you are feeding your body the food

that

it needs, your body will approach its appropriate weight (whether that be

losing or gaining).

The beginning of the diet is a bit hairy since your body has to go through

significant changes; however, if you adhere to it and give any needed

supplements, you will probably find pleasant progress in your son's

weight.

You are wise to be cautious about relying on supplements for chronic

constipation. I know that I am not personally knowledgable enough to jump

into supplement use without guidance. That is why I said " look into the

need " rather than " just do it. " If you are wary of specific

supplementation, then do not do it. Our family gets help in this area

from

a nutritionist who works with our DAN. My children have deficiencies in

these minerals and vitamins so we do have a need for them; however, you

don't want to just randomly start administering these things. You are

right, there could be consequences to such uninformed actions.

When I state that I have GI troubles, I state it that way because they are

undiagnosed. I am not sure where my problems rank in comparison to

others.

We don't have the finances to investigate my problems because all of our

money is going to the treatment of our kids.

I am not debilitated in the sense that my life is disrupted. It does,

however, drastically affect my emotions. My symptoms pre-SCD were very

irregular and somewhat foul bowels. They came about every 4th day. I was

very constipated with numerous hemrhoids (sp?). The colors were all over

the map, and I frequently passed undigested food.

I was very nasty to everyone on days that I didn't poop. I also would get

headaches (those were debilitating). My skin was horrible. I had

terrible

acne. I frequently felt bloated.

I have only been SCD 1 month, but I pass a bowel almost everyday now. I

also pass it at almost the same time everyday. They are well-formed

without

being impacted, and the only thing that I am not completely digesting at

our

stage in the diet are the tiny pieces of almond in the almond flour that I

grind for my muffin (from Elaine's consitipation protocol). My favorite

part is that I pass these beautifully formed, correctly colored, stools

with

great ease. It is practically the highlight of my day .

I can still get cranky on days when I don't poop, but that is not nearly

as

frequent. Also, I am much more aware that I am cranky for that reason

which

makes it easier for me to control it. I don't get headaches at all

anymore

(except on occasion when it is due to my neck being out of alignment). My

skin is gradually improving. I still have some breakouts prior to

menstration (sorry to be so graphic), but they are not as severe. I am

hoping that this will continue to improve as my hormones come more into

balance as a result of good nutrition. And I am never bloated anymore. I

have slimmed down so much that I have the waist, hips, and thieghs of a

fit

teen-ager. Now if I could just get back my pre-breastfeeding boobs that

would really be something !

I hope you find this helpful. If you have more questions, I would be

happy

to answer.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems,

add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema)

SCD 3 months

[Guest guest]

Hey Kelli.

My thought is that the bloating is due to bad bacteria and pathogens in your gut

that got out of control when you had those illegals. They feed off of the stuff

that is not being properly broken down and digested in the gut. The side

effects of this are numerous, and different people are affected in different

ways; however, bloating is a common experience. Some of the by products of the

bad bacteria when they " feed " are gas and such (usually associated with

bloating).

Elaine explains this far better than I can in her book. But in short . . yes,

not digesting your food properly lends itself to bloating. Hence, the need for

SCD and especially, the intro diet which gives healing of the digestive system a

tremendous boost.

If you go back to the intro, you will get the most benefit of starving these

guys and clearing them out. You will probably see gross, green bowels after the

first few days of intro. (possibly even black specs throughout). This is

evidence that they are being cleared out. You will gradually feel better after

this with the occasional minor bloating that may occur premenstrually (as is the

case with me).

Another benefit of beginning with the intro is that you are better able to tell

what you are sensitive to. I never knew I was sensitive to orange juice until I

added it after beginning SCD. And since I am sensitive to this, if I were to

take it at this point in the diet, I would only delay healing and promote bad

bacteria " feeding. "

My son, who is three, had severe bloating. His bloating was so bad that he

appeared " third-trimester pregnant. " Another visual is the malnourished

Ethiopians with these huge, distended bellies even though they are starving.

Their digestive systems (as was my son) are so out of whack that these pathogens

just bloat them up like blow-fish. Hopefully, your situation is not as severe,

but this is the case for some.

Both my son and I slimmed down very quickly after being on SCD. He will still

occasionally bloat because his fight with the " yeastie beasties " is far from

over. I am certain we have a few more years on this diet. But, we are seeing

less and less of his beer belly.

Did I answer your question fully? If not, ask some more. I will keep trying to

help. And anyone else who can explain this stuff more explicitly, please feel

free to jump in.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to , 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 3 months

RE: what could the constipation-Jeni

So your thought is that the bloating is from not digesting properly? It has

came about all of the sudden after a short stint of illegal foods and then

eliminating them (including sugar, wheat, rice, corn, etc).

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

[Guest guest]

So your thought is that the bloating is from not digesting properly? It has

came about all of the sudden after a short stint of illegal foods and then

eliminating them (including sugar, wheat, rice, corn, etc).

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Knopp

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:46 AM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: what could the constipation-Jeni

You may want to eliminate the nut muffin if that is the case. Normally,

nuts and nut flour aren't introduced until after 3 months on the diet. And

if you don't puree the stewed prunes, you may want to eliminate this as well

until a later time. The skins can prove difficult to completely digest.

You may find that you system heals more quickly if you don't have to

introduce these so early in the diet. Other than that, my thought is you

would be fine leaving it as is.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

Re: what could the constipation

Hi Gwen!

I am glad to hear that your son is not constipated on the diet. My

children

were when we began. They had already struggled with this pre-SCD, but

it

temporarily worsened. I think this was because it took us a while to

introduce enough carbohydrates, and it took me a while to catch on to

the

dehydration issue.

You mentioned weight gain. I can't make any promises for your son, but

I

can relay my experience. My son, who was " overweight " and constantly

bloated (lovingly teased for his pregnant appearance), slimmed down

drastically. He is a sturdy, tough little guy who currently has a very

healthy stature. I look at him everyday and am stunned by his radiant

good-looks and healthy appearance. On the other hand, my infant was

born

in

the 95% and dropped below 50% pre-SCD. She weighed approximately 17 lb.

at

1 year old. After being on SCD, she gained 3 lbs in 1 month. My oldest

also gained some more weight and is looking a little more robust and

healthy

these days. My thought is that when you are feeding your body the food

that

it needs, your body will approach its appropriate weight (whether that

be

losing or gaining).

The beginning of the diet is a bit hairy since your body has to go

through

significant changes; however, if you adhere to it and give any needed

supplements, you will probably find pleasant progress in your son's

weight.

You are wise to be cautious about relying on supplements for chronic

constipation. I know that I am not personally knowledgable enough to

jump

into supplement use without guidance. That is why I said " look into the

need " rather than " just do it. " If you are wary of specific

supplementation, then do not do it. Our family gets help in this area

from

a nutritionist who works with our DAN. My children have deficiencies in

these minerals and vitamins so we do have a need for them; however, you

don't want to just randomly start administering these things. You are

right, there could be consequences to such uninformed actions.

When I state that I have GI troubles, I state it that way because they

are

undiagnosed. I am not sure where my problems rank in comparison to

others.

We don't have the finances to investigate my problems because all of our

money is going to the treatment of our kids.

I am not debilitated in the sense that my life is disrupted. It does,

however, drastically affect my emotions. My symptoms pre-SCD were very

irregular and somewhat foul bowels. They came about every 4th day. I

was

very constipated with numerous hemrhoids (sp?). The colors were all

over

the map, and I frequently passed undigested food.

I was very nasty to everyone on days that I didn't poop. I also would

get

headaches (those were debilitating). My skin was horrible. I had

terrible

acne. I frequently felt bloated.

I have only been SCD 1 month, but I pass a bowel almost everyday now. I

also pass it at almost the same time everyday. They are well-formed

without

being impacted, and the only thing that I am not completely digesting at

our

stage in the diet are the tiny pieces of almond in the almond flour that

I

grind for my muffin (from Elaine's consitipation protocol). My favorite

part is that I pass these beautifully formed, correctly colored, stools

with

great ease. It is practically the highlight of my day .

I can still get cranky on days when I don't poop, but that is not nearly

as

frequent. Also, I am much more aware that I am cranky for that reason

which

makes it easier for me to control it. I don't get headaches at all

anymore

(except on occasion when it is due to my neck being out of alignment).

My

skin is gradually improving. I still have some breakouts prior to

menstration (sorry to be so graphic), but they are not as severe. I am

hoping that this will continue to improve as my hormones come more into

balance as a result of good nutrition. And I am never bloated anymore.

I

have slimmed down so much that I have the waist, hips, and thieghs of a

fit

teen-ager. Now if I could just get back my pre-breastfeeding boobs that

would really be something !

I hope you find this helpful. If you have more questions, I would be

happy

to answer.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems,

add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema)

SCD 3 months

[Guest guest]

So your thought is that the bloating is from not digesting properly? It has

came about all of the sudden after a short stint of illegal foods and then

eliminating them (including sugar, wheat, rice, corn, etc).

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Knopp

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:46 AM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: what could the constipation-Jeni

You may want to eliminate the nut muffin if that is the case. Normally,

nuts and nut flour aren't introduced until after 3 months on the diet. And

if you don't puree the stewed prunes, you may want to eliminate this as well

until a later time. The skins can prove difficult to completely digest.

You may find that you system heals more quickly if you don't have to

introduce these so early in the diet. Other than that, my thought is you

would be fine leaving it as is.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

Re: what could the constipation

Hi Gwen!

I am glad to hear that your son is not constipated on the diet. My

children

were when we began. They had already struggled with this pre-SCD, but

it

temporarily worsened. I think this was because it took us a while to

introduce enough carbohydrates, and it took me a while to catch on to

the

dehydration issue.

You mentioned weight gain. I can't make any promises for your son, but

I

can relay my experience. My son, who was " overweight " and constantly

bloated (lovingly teased for his pregnant appearance), slimmed down

drastically. He is a sturdy, tough little guy who currently has a very

healthy stature. I look at him everyday and am stunned by his radiant

good-looks and healthy appearance. On the other hand, my infant was

born

in

the 95% and dropped below 50% pre-SCD. She weighed approximately 17 lb.

at

1 year old. After being on SCD, she gained 3 lbs in 1 month. My oldest

also gained some more weight and is looking a little more robust and

healthy

these days. My thought is that when you are feeding your body the food

that

it needs, your body will approach its appropriate weight (whether that

be

losing or gaining).

The beginning of the diet is a bit hairy since your body has to go

through

significant changes; however, if you adhere to it and give any needed

supplements, you will probably find pleasant progress in your son's

weight.

You are wise to be cautious about relying on supplements for chronic

constipation. I know that I am not personally knowledgable enough to

jump

into supplement use without guidance. That is why I said " look into the

need " rather than " just do it. " If you are wary of specific

supplementation, then do not do it. Our family gets help in this area

from

a nutritionist who works with our DAN. My children have deficiencies in

these minerals and vitamins so we do have a need for them; however, you

don't want to just randomly start administering these things. You are

right, there could be consequences to such uninformed actions.

When I state that I have GI troubles, I state it that way because they

are

undiagnosed. I am not sure where my problems rank in comparison to

others.

We don't have the finances to investigate my problems because all of our

money is going to the treatment of our kids.

I am not debilitated in the sense that my life is disrupted. It does,

however, drastically affect my emotions. My symptoms pre-SCD were very

irregular and somewhat foul bowels. They came about every 4th day. I

was

very constipated with numerous hemrhoids (sp?). The colors were all

over

the map, and I frequently passed undigested food.

I was very nasty to everyone on days that I didn't poop. I also would

get

headaches (those were debilitating). My skin was horrible. I had

terrible

acne. I frequently felt bloated.

I have only been SCD 1 month, but I pass a bowel almost everyday now. I

also pass it at almost the same time everyday. They are well-formed

without

being impacted, and the only thing that I am not completely digesting at

our

stage in the diet are the tiny pieces of almond in the almond flour that

I

grind for my muffin (from Elaine's consitipation protocol). My favorite

part is that I pass these beautifully formed, correctly colored, stools

with

great ease. It is practically the highlight of my day .

I can still get cranky on days when I don't poop, but that is not nearly

as

frequent. Also, I am much more aware that I am cranky for that reason

which

makes it easier for me to control it. I don't get headaches at all

anymore

(except on occasion when it is due to my neck being out of alignment).

My

skin is gradually improving. I still have some breakouts prior to

menstration (sorry to be so graphic), but they are not as severe. I am

hoping that this will continue to improve as my hormones come more into

balance as a result of good nutrition. And I am never bloated anymore.

I

have slimmed down so much that I have the waist, hips, and thieghs of a

fit

teen-ager. Now if I could just get back my pre-breastfeeding boobs that

would really be something !

I hope you find this helpful. If you have more questions, I would be

happy

to answer.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems,

add)

, 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 18 mo. (heavy metal toxicity, leaky gut, eczema)

SCD 3 months

[Guest guest]

Yes thank you so much for your time!

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

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From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Knopp

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:38 AM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: what could the constipation-Jeni

Hey Kelli.

My thought is that the bloating is due to bad bacteria and pathogens in your

gut that got out of control when you had those illegals. They feed off of

the stuff that is not being properly broken down and digested in the gut.

The side effects of this are numerous, and different people are affected in

different ways; however, bloating is a common experience. Some of the by

products of the bad bacteria when they " feed " are gas and such (usually

associated with bloating).

Elaine explains this far better than I can in her book. But in short . .

yes, not digesting your food properly lends itself to bloating. Hence, the

need for SCD and especially, the intro diet which gives healing of the

digestive system a tremendous boost.

If you go back to the intro, you will get the most benefit of starving these

guys and clearing them out. You will probably see gross, green bowels after

the first few days of intro. (possibly even black specs throughout). This

is evidence that they are being cleared out. You will gradually feel better

after this with the occasional minor bloating that may occur premenstrually

(as is the case with me).

Another benefit of beginning with the intro is that you are better able to

tell what you are sensitive to. I never knew I was sensitive to orange

juice until I added it after beginning SCD. And since I am sensitive to

this, if I were to take it at this point in the diet, I would only delay

healing and promote bad bacteria " feeding. "

My son, who is three, had severe bloating. His bloating was so bad that he

appeared " third-trimester pregnant. " Another visual is the malnourished

Ethiopians with these huge, distended bellies even though they are starving.

Their digestive systems (as was my son) are so out of whack that these

pathogens just bloat them up like blow-fish. Hopefully, your situation is

not as severe, but this is the case for some.

Both my son and I slimmed down very quickly after being on SCD. He will

still occasionally bloat because his fight with the " yeastie beasties " is

far from over. I am certain we have a few more years on this diet. But, we

are seeing less and less of his beer belly.

Did I answer your question fully? If not, ask some more. I will keep

trying to help. And anyone else who can explain this stuff more explicitly,

please feel free to jump in.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to , 3 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 3 months

RE: what could the constipation-Jeni

So your thought is that the bloating is from not digesting properly? It

has

came about all of the sudden after a short stint of illegal foods and then

eliminating them (including sugar, wheat, rice, corn, etc).

Kelli

SAHM to Kai 3 1/2- ASD and Tatum 1 1/2 NT

SCD since 5/05, off for 3 months, back on 3/10/06

[Guest guest]

Jeni Lyn;

Thanks for taking the time to post what your intro diet " looked like " . Helpful

for a newbie!

Kim

Pre SCD (3 yo ASD, 2 yo NT)

Re: what could the constipation-Jeni

Hi Kelli!

I definitely started out with the intro.

This is what Day 1 and 2 looked like:

[Guest guest]

Jeni Lyn;

Thanks for taking the time to post what your intro diet " looked like " . Helpful

for a newbie!

Kim

Pre SCD (3 yo ASD, 2 yo NT)

Re: what could the constipation-Jeni

Hi Kelli!

I definitely started out with the intro.

This is what Day 1 and 2 looked like:

[Guest guest]

Jeni Lyn;

Thanks for taking the time to post what your intro diet " looked like " . Helpful

for a newbie!

Kim

Pre SCD (3 yo ASD, 2 yo NT)

Re: what could the constipation-Jeni

Hi Kelli!

I definitely started out with the intro.

This is what Day 1 and 2 looked like: