Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 hey everyone I went ahead and called the doctor, he made me feel better about the situation. We discussed my concerns about and how I felt. The doctor feels that it is best that I explain the differences between girl and boy and to explain no one is to look or touch him in any manner. I am very proud of for coming to me and telling me what happened. The doctor feels that it is best not to over talk the situation, that we need to keep it simple for him to understand. The doctor also said that is young and he will forget the incident. He told me that it will be ok. I explained that the 9 1/2 year old has ADD and seeing a counceler and that she will be talking to her about what happened and why. Her mother said there was an issue dealing with a boy that they seem might be the problem, or there might be an issue with her real dad. I am very unhappy that they did not tell me she had those issues or I would not have watched them.Hopefully she will get the help she needs through the counceler or from someone the counceler feels who can help her.. As for our friendship, it does not exist anymore. I cannot be around them, I understand what the doctor is saying but they lost my trust and to me that is a very important part of a friendship. I thank you all for replying and giving me support. mommy of 4yrs old w/cf and 16 months old /no cf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 As a response to this I want to mention something that was discussed in my psychology class last week. When discussing child abuse (all types) our teacher said that the " You show me yours, I show you mine " thing is normal for kids and isn't in and of itself a sign of abuse. She said that they can even get down right clinical about it with magnifying glasses etc. and it is still not, in and of itself, a sign of abuse. The warning signs of abuse are more along the lines of inappropriate knowledge for the age of the child. Example, would be the 9 1/2 explaining where the boys part goes in relation to the girls part during intercourse. Or any other explicitly sexual knowledge that would mean someone had done something to the girl that would cause her to have that knowledge. Acknowledging the difference between boys and girls...even clinically is not sexual. It is biology. It is normal. Now making someone do something they don't want to do is not ok (and is a warning sign of abuse, as is the age difference in the children) and both kids need to know that it isn't ok. We had a similer experience with a 9 year old girl on our street. Our kids were outside playing was 5, was 4 and the girl invited them upstairs in her house. They went, even though they weren't allowed to go into anyones house, and they knew it. I was inside taking care of the babies and making dinner. They came home and told me that she had told them that she was going to " marry " them and for them to be married (to each other), they had to take their pants off and kiss. They did this and felt very uncomfortable and came home and told us about it. We told them that those are private areas of their bodies and they shouldn't take their pants off for anyone. We also explained that because they are brother and sister they can't get married, but someday they will each find someone else that they will marry. We don't let them play outside unless someone is watching them now. I feel that the girl that we were dealing with had inappropriate knowledge for her age, now looking back at it I think I should have called DHS. But, she has since moved and I have no idea where she is. I do want to comment on what we didn't do. We didn't make a big deal about it in front of the kids. We told them that it wasn't ok and explained that private means private, and then dropped it and waited for cues from them. None came, I don't think that the event left an impression on them, at least not one that is causing them any issues. I think many times parents meaning to help their kids work through issues, cause issues, where there wouldn't be any if they just let the kids forget. Just my long 2 cents. Sending good thoughts your way, Pope Nursing and Midwifery Student Avon Independant Sales Representative (www.youravon.com/justinpope) Register as a new customer and use popeavon as the passcode. Mom to (6 years, hospital waterbirth, nocf), (5 years, c/sec for breech, nocf), (2 1/2 years, VBAC home waterbirth, wcf), iel (1 year, VBAC home waterbirth (nocf). Soon to be step-mom to (2 years, nocf). called the doctor about the 9 1/2 exposing herself to my son. hey everyone I went ahead and called the doctor, he made me feel better about the situation. We discussed my concerns about and how I felt. The doctor feels that it is best that I explain the differences between girl and boy and to explain no one is to look or touch him in any manner. I am very proud of for coming to me and telling me what happened. The doctor feels that it is best not to over talk the situation, that we need to keep it simple for him to understand. The doctor also said that is young and he will forget the incident. He told me that it will be ok. I explained that the 9 1/2 year old has ADD and seeing a counceler and that she will be talking to her about what happened and why. Her mother said there was an issue dealing with a boy that they seem might be the problem, or there might be an issue with her real dad. I am very unhappy that they did not tell me she had those issues or I would not have watched them.Hopefully she will get the help she needs through the counceler or from someone the counceler feels who can help her.. As for our friendship, it does not exist anymore. I cannot be around them, I understand what the doctor is saying but they lost my trust and to me that is a very important part of a friendship. I thank you all for replying and giving me support. mommy of 4yrs old w/cf and 16 months old /no cf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 As a response to this I want to mention something that was discussed in my psychology class last week. When discussing child abuse (all types) our teacher said that the " You show me yours, I show you mine " thing is normal for kids and isn't in and of itself a sign of abuse. She said that they can even get down right clinical about it with magnifying glasses etc. and it is still not, in and of itself, a sign of abuse. The warning signs of abuse are more along the lines of inappropriate knowledge for the age of the child. Example, would be the 9 1/2 explaining where the boys part goes in relation to the girls part during intercourse. Or any other explicitly sexual knowledge that would mean someone had done something to the girl that would cause her to have that knowledge. Acknowledging the difference between boys and girls...even clinically is not sexual. It is biology. It is normal. Now making someone do something they don't want to do is not ok (and is a warning sign of abuse, as is the age difference in the children) and both kids need to know that it isn't ok. We had a similer experience with a 9 year old girl on our street. Our kids were outside playing was 5, was 4 and the girl invited them upstairs in her house. They went, even though they weren't allowed to go into anyones house, and they knew it. I was inside taking care of the babies and making dinner. They came home and told me that she had told them that she was going to " marry " them and for them to be married (to each other), they had to take their pants off and kiss. They did this and felt very uncomfortable and came home and told us about it. We told them that those are private areas of their bodies and they shouldn't take their pants off for anyone. We also explained that because they are brother and sister they can't get married, but someday they will each find someone else that they will marry. We don't let them play outside unless someone is watching them now. I feel that the girl that we were dealing with had inappropriate knowledge for her age, now looking back at it I think I should have called DHS. But, she has since moved and I have no idea where she is. I do want to comment on what we didn't do. We didn't make a big deal about it in front of the kids. We told them that it wasn't ok and explained that private means private, and then dropped it and waited for cues from them. None came, I don't think that the event left an impression on them, at least not one that is causing them any issues. I think many times parents meaning to help their kids work through issues, cause issues, where there wouldn't be any if they just let the kids forget. Just my long 2 cents. Sending good thoughts your way, Pope Nursing and Midwifery Student Avon Independant Sales Representative (www.youravon.com/justinpope) Register as a new customer and use popeavon as the passcode. Mom to (6 years, hospital waterbirth, nocf), (5 years, c/sec for breech, nocf), (2 1/2 years, VBAC home waterbirth, wcf), iel (1 year, VBAC home waterbirth (nocf). Soon to be step-mom to (2 years, nocf). called the doctor about the 9 1/2 exposing herself to my son. hey everyone I went ahead and called the doctor, he made me feel better about the situation. We discussed my concerns about and how I felt. The doctor feels that it is best that I explain the differences between girl and boy and to explain no one is to look or touch him in any manner. I am very proud of for coming to me and telling me what happened. The doctor feels that it is best not to over talk the situation, that we need to keep it simple for him to understand. The doctor also said that is young and he will forget the incident. He told me that it will be ok. I explained that the 9 1/2 year old has ADD and seeing a counceler and that she will be talking to her about what happened and why. Her mother said there was an issue dealing with a boy that they seem might be the problem, or there might be an issue with her real dad. I am very unhappy that they did not tell me she had those issues or I would not have watched them.Hopefully she will get the help she needs through the counceler or from someone the counceler feels who can help her.. As for our friendship, it does not exist anymore. I cannot be around them, I understand what the doctor is saying but they lost my trust and to me that is a very important part of a friendship. I thank you all for replying and giving me support. mommy of 4yrs old w/cf and 16 months old /no cf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 As a response to this I want to mention something that was discussed in my psychology class last week. When discussing child abuse (all types) our teacher said that the " You show me yours, I show you mine " thing is normal for kids and isn't in and of itself a sign of abuse. She said that they can even get down right clinical about it with magnifying glasses etc. and it is still not, in and of itself, a sign of abuse. The warning signs of abuse are more along the lines of inappropriate knowledge for the age of the child. Example, would be the 9 1/2 explaining where the boys part goes in relation to the girls part during intercourse. Or any other explicitly sexual knowledge that would mean someone had done something to the girl that would cause her to have that knowledge. Acknowledging the difference between boys and girls...even clinically is not sexual. It is biology. It is normal. Now making someone do something they don't want to do is not ok (and is a warning sign of abuse, as is the age difference in the children) and both kids need to know that it isn't ok. We had a similer experience with a 9 year old girl on our street. Our kids were outside playing was 5, was 4 and the girl invited them upstairs in her house. They went, even though they weren't allowed to go into anyones house, and they knew it. I was inside taking care of the babies and making dinner. They came home and told me that she had told them that she was going to " marry " them and for them to be married (to each other), they had to take their pants off and kiss. They did this and felt very uncomfortable and came home and told us about it. We told them that those are private areas of their bodies and they shouldn't take their pants off for anyone. We also explained that because they are brother and sister they can't get married, but someday they will each find someone else that they will marry. We don't let them play outside unless someone is watching them now. I feel that the girl that we were dealing with had inappropriate knowledge for her age, now looking back at it I think I should have called DHS. But, she has since moved and I have no idea where she is. I do want to comment on what we didn't do. We didn't make a big deal about it in front of the kids. We told them that it wasn't ok and explained that private means private, and then dropped it and waited for cues from them. None came, I don't think that the event left an impression on them, at least not one that is causing them any issues. I think many times parents meaning to help their kids work through issues, cause issues, where there wouldn't be any if they just let the kids forget. Just my long 2 cents. Sending good thoughts your way, Pope Nursing and Midwifery Student Avon Independant Sales Representative (www.youravon.com/justinpope) Register as a new customer and use popeavon as the passcode. Mom to (6 years, hospital waterbirth, nocf), (5 years, c/sec for breech, nocf), (2 1/2 years, VBAC home waterbirth, wcf), iel (1 year, VBAC home waterbirth (nocf). Soon to be step-mom to (2 years, nocf). called the doctor about the 9 1/2 exposing herself to my son. hey everyone I went ahead and called the doctor, he made me feel better about the situation. We discussed my concerns about and how I felt. The doctor feels that it is best that I explain the differences between girl and boy and to explain no one is to look or touch him in any manner. I am very proud of for coming to me and telling me what happened. The doctor feels that it is best not to over talk the situation, that we need to keep it simple for him to understand. The doctor also said that is young and he will forget the incident. He told me that it will be ok. I explained that the 9 1/2 year old has ADD and seeing a counceler and that she will be talking to her about what happened and why. Her mother said there was an issue dealing with a boy that they seem might be the problem, or there might be an issue with her real dad. I am very unhappy that they did not tell me she had those issues or I would not have watched them.Hopefully she will get the help she needs through the counceler or from someone the counceler feels who can help her.. As for our friendship, it does not exist anymore. I cannot be around them, I understand what the doctor is saying but they lost my trust and to me that is a very important part of a friendship. I thank you all for replying and giving me support. mommy of 4yrs old w/cf and 16 months old /no cf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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