Re: How RED will I be after photoderm?

[Guest guest]

It does depend on what settings yr photoderm practitioner uses. If

it is yr first session it is likely they will start off with lower

settings, so yr downtime will be less. Personally (and i don't have

any perm redness/pustules etc just flushing) i only stayed red for a

couple of hours, what did effect me was the puffyness. I would say

that stayed very noticeable for two days, and then i just looked fat

faced. On my more aggressive second treatment the puffyness was far

worse and has taken longer to subside, but again the redness went

down after 2-3 hours.

If i were you i'd give yrself 1-2 days to cope with any downtime u

mat get. Theres nothing worse than worrying about having to face

someone when you know you look awful. Although if its urgent you

could probably get away with saying it's an allergic reaction, or

swollen glands :-)

> I have a meeting scheduled the day after my 1st photoderm- how red

> will I be? Will I be able to cover it with make-up? Should I

> reschedule the meeting? thanks-

[Guest guest]

The day Of your Photoderm treatment, I would not go anywhere. The day after I

guess would be your choice. I still would choose not to go anywhere that I

didn't have to go, but I've gone out the next day after a few of my treatments.

The redness should be down between 50-90% by then in most cases (Sometimes the

redness will fade in a few hours, sometimes it may take up to 2 or 3 days, but

should be at least 50% healed by the next day). The swelling will probably be

down too, but may still be a bit noticable by day 2 to those who know you well..

Overall, I think you can manage a meeting the day after if you want to.. But its

important to know that the less you can cause yourself to flush/flare in the

first 10-14 days after each treatment (some people say its just the first 48

hours...) the more effective Photoderm will be for you in the long run.

Adam

[Guest guest]

I had a very aggressive treatment just yesterday. 5 passes with 3

different filters topped with an increased level of energy, and

really have no swelling or redness today.

For me, the swelling can be greatly alleviated, if not eliminated by

making sure I ice down after each treatment. Dr. Bitter's office

sends me home with 2 Kwik Kold ice packs. I use one right there in

the office and one when I get home. I then sleep with my head

propped up the night of the treatment. If I do that, I have no

noticeable swelling the next day.

Also, you really should give your face a rest as much as possible

after treatments. I avoid putting anything on my face for 48 hours.

I like to have the treatments on Friday, and lay low Saturday, to

avoid flaring. By Monday, I'm generally no worse for the wear, if

I've done this.

Another thing I've noticed is, while the treatments have become

increasingly aggressive, my skin has been much less red immediately

after each one. I can only guess this is because my skin has

improved so much overall.

> The day Of your Photoderm treatment, I would not go anywhere. The

day after I guess would be your choice. I still would choose not to

go anywhere that I didn't have to go, but I've gone out the next day

after a few of my treatments. The redness should be down between 50-

90% by then in most cases (Sometimes the redness will fade in a few

hours, sometimes it may take up to 2 or 3 days, but should be at

least 50% healed by the next day). The swelling will probably be

down too, but may still be a bit noticable by day 2 to those who know

you well..

>

> Overall, I think you can manage a meeting the day after if you want

to.. But its important to know that the less you can cause yourself

to flush/flare in the first 10-14 days after each treatment (some

people say its just the first 48 hours...) the more effective

Photoderm will be for you in the long run.

>

> Adam

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had a very aggressive treatment just yesterday. 5 passes with 3

different filters topped with an increased level of energy, and

really have no swelling or redness today.

For me, the swelling can be greatly alleviated, if not eliminated by

making sure I ice down after each treatment. Dr. Bitter's office

sends me home with 2 Kwik Kold ice packs. I use one right there in

the office and one when I get home. I then sleep with my head

propped up the night of the treatment. If I do that, I have no

noticeable swelling the next day.

Also, you really should give your face a rest as much as possible

after treatments. I avoid putting anything on my face for 48 hours.

I like to have the treatments on Friday, and lay low Saturday, to

avoid flaring. By Monday, I'm generally no worse for the wear, if

I've done this.

Another thing I've noticed is, while the treatments have become

increasingly aggressive, my skin has been much less red immediately

after each one. I can only guess this is because my skin has

improved so much overall.

> The day Of your Photoderm treatment, I would not go anywhere. The

day after I guess would be your choice. I still would choose not to

go anywhere that I didn't have to go, but I've gone out the next day

after a few of my treatments. The redness should be down between 50-

90% by then in most cases (Sometimes the redness will fade in a few

hours, sometimes it may take up to 2 or 3 days, but should be at

least 50% healed by the next day). The swelling will probably be

down too, but may still be a bit noticable by day 2 to those who know

you well..

>

> Overall, I think you can manage a meeting the day after if you want

to.. But its important to know that the less you can cause yourself

to flush/flare in the first 10-14 days after each treatment (some

people say its just the first 48 hours...) the more effective

Photoderm will be for you in the long run.

>

> Adam

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had a very aggressive treatment just yesterday. 5 passes with 3

different filters topped with an increased level of energy, and

really have no swelling or redness today.

For me, the swelling can be greatly alleviated, if not eliminated by

making sure I ice down after each treatment. Dr. Bitter's office

sends me home with 2 Kwik Kold ice packs. I use one right there in

the office and one when I get home. I then sleep with my head

propped up the night of the treatment. If I do that, I have no

noticeable swelling the next day.

Also, you really should give your face a rest as much as possible

after treatments. I avoid putting anything on my face for 48 hours.

I like to have the treatments on Friday, and lay low Saturday, to

avoid flaring. By Monday, I'm generally no worse for the wear, if

I've done this.

Another thing I've noticed is, while the treatments have become

increasingly aggressive, my skin has been much less red immediately

after each one. I can only guess this is because my skin has

improved so much overall.

> The day Of your Photoderm treatment, I would not go anywhere. The

day after I guess would be your choice. I still would choose not to

go anywhere that I didn't have to go, but I've gone out the next day

after a few of my treatments. The redness should be down between 50-

90% by then in most cases (Sometimes the redness will fade in a few

hours, sometimes it may take up to 2 or 3 days, but should be at

least 50% healed by the next day). The swelling will probably be

down too, but may still be a bit noticable by day 2 to those who know

you well..

>

> Overall, I think you can manage a meeting the day after if you want

to.. But its important to know that the less you can cause yourself

to flush/flare in the first 10-14 days after each treatment (some

people say its just the first 48 hours...) the more effective

Photoderm will be for you in the long run.

>

> Adam

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> If i were you i'd give yrself 1-2 days to cope with any downtime u

> mat get. Theres nothing worse than worrying about having to face

> someone when you know you look awful. Although if its urgent you

> could probably get away with saying it's an allergic reaction, or

> swollen glands :-)

Or, the original poster could issue a pre-emptive strike and

volunteer that she's receiving phototherapy treatments for a skin

condition called rosacea, or wait until she's asked before telling

the truth. She could refer to it with humor, something about her

being fine for the meeting, that just her skin was fried, not her

brain. At meetings, no one cares about anything other than themselves

anyway.

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

[Guest guest]

> If i were you i'd give yrself 1-2 days to cope with any downtime u

> mat get. Theres nothing worse than worrying about having to face

> someone when you know you look awful. Although if its urgent you

> could probably get away with saying it's an allergic reaction, or

> swollen glands :-)

Or, the original poster could issue a pre-emptive strike and

volunteer that she's receiving phototherapy treatments for a skin

condition called rosacea, or wait until she's asked before telling

the truth. She could refer to it with humor, something about her

being fine for the meeting, that just her skin was fried, not her

brain. At meetings, no one cares about anything other than themselves

anyway.

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

[Guest guest]

There's some stuff called total block, I think it's by a company

called Fallon, etc... It is spf 50 or some outrageous number which

is fairly covering/opaque and can be blended to skin tone similar to

dermablend. You need a sunscreen anyways, why not give it a try for

camoflauge.

This brings up an interesting point. Cosmetic improvement is

paramount for dermatologic patients. Society forces us to look good

and punishes those who don't. Has anyone seen the movie, Shallow

Hal? Notice how when the girls are seen by the non Hal character,

(played by Castanza from Sienfield) where they are in their

ugly state, they all have erythemic faces (rosacea, acne, etc). When

seen by Hal, who is hypnotized, they look, among other hot chicks,

like Gweneth Paltrow. Consider the case of a mole. Located on the

upper lip is attractive --- ala Cindy Crawford. A mole moved an inch

or so to the tip of the nose, and you're an ugly witch. For guys,

the guy with all the hot girls has clear skin -- no papulopustules.

Those with better skin make more money, have better self images, and

are happier in life. Would Brad Pitt be a sex symbol with active

inflammatory rosacea? What do people in Hollywood use to quickly

quash inflammatory acne/rosacea???? Low dose Accutane, of course.

We must take these factors into account when factoring in our

treatment regimens. Therefore, time to improvement is an important

consideration.

Maybe more people need to try low dose accutane before photoderm...

>

> > If i were you i'd give yrself 1-2 days to cope with any downtime

u

> > mat get. Theres nothing worse than worrying about having to face

> > someone when you know you look awful. Although if its urgent you

> > could probably get away with saying it's an allergic reaction, or

> > swollen glands :-)

>

> Or, the original poster could issue a pre-emptive strike and

> volunteer that she's receiving phototherapy treatments for a skin

> condition called rosacea, or wait until she's asked before telling

> the truth. She could refer to it with humor, something about her

> being fine for the meeting, that just her skin was fried, not her

> brain. At meetings, no one cares about anything other than

themselves

> anyway.

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

[Guest guest]

Go and get a Photoderm test patch done. Then you will know if you

are one of the folks who has adverse reactions to the treatment.

Also, I think in general its preferrable to do Photoderm before

Accutane, because there is a LONG waiting period after concluding an

Accutane course (6 mo. to a year) before you can start Photoderm

treatments, while you can commense Accutane without much of a

waiting period after Photoderm treatments.

[Guest guest]

Go and get a Photoderm test patch done. Then you will know if you

are one of the folks who has adverse reactions to the treatment.

Also, I think in general its preferrable to do Photoderm before

Accutane, because there is a LONG waiting period after concluding an

Accutane course (6 mo. to a year) before you can start Photoderm

treatments, while you can commense Accutane without much of a

waiting period after Photoderm treatments.

[Guest guest]

Go and get a Photoderm test patch done. Then you will know if you

are one of the folks who has adverse reactions to the treatment.

Also, I think in general its preferrable to do Photoderm before

Accutane, because there is a LONG waiting period after concluding an

Accutane course (6 mo. to a year) before you can start Photoderm

treatments, while you can commense Accutane without much of a

waiting period after Photoderm treatments.

[Guest guest]

Why don't you get a test patch done so you can see if get any

adverse reactions to the Photoderm treatment?

In my opinion, I think its preferrable to undergo Photoderm before

Accutane, because there is a LONG waiting period after completing an

Accutane course before undergoing Photoderm (about 6 months to a

year).

> Although I was led to believe there is no down time

> after photoderm, I'm now reading about severe redness

> and swelling. Also, one poster said to try low-dose

> accutane before trying photoderm.

>

> Can those of you who have tried photoderm tell me if,

> under the circumstances I've described, you think

> photoderm is worth trying? I know if I opt for

> accutane instead, I've got to allow at least six

> months before I try the photoderm. The girl in the

> doctor's office seemed to believe I should try

> photoderm first--then the accutane, if necessary.