Re: Diabetic-Need Advise Now!!!! Having Problems

[Guest guest]

Hi Louie;

Go sorry to hear that you've been having it so rough. I haven't been

on in a while due to my own hospitalization, or I would have answered

you sooner.

As for Diabetis- I have it also. I take long acting " Lantis " . and it

works wonderfully well! It lasts 24hrs. I also take humolog during

the if and when I eat. It is short acting.

As for the art of giving one a shot, it took me a while also. But

after 6 yrs on Sandostatin 3x a day, and now insulin sometimes 6x a

day- NO PROB! :-)

I would say to give the insulin a chance as I think it works alot

better than the pills- but that's just my opinion. I believe it would

help to regulate you alot better also.

Hope this is of some help.

My best thoughts and prayers are with you!

God Bless!

Cyndie

In pancreatitis@y..., " edhall " wrote:

> Hi Pancreatitis Pals,

> If anyone out there has diabetes, I sure could use your help right

away, as I having all lot of problems with my right Now!!!!!!!!!!!

As, you know last Monday, I had surgery to have my pain pump replaced

and that has gone very Well for me, with now problems, except that my

diabetes hashas been acting up since Saturday. Maybe the surgery has

thrown my system out of wacky?

> Well, I try to make a long story short and to the point. In

August , my insurance quit accept my medicine that I was using to

control my diabetes.]It was called Glucovance, and was going the job

quite well. Now it a non-formulary(SP) drug and they won't pay for

it & I can't afford it outright with all the other meds I have to

take. So my family doc tried to convince me to go on insulin, He

said I would feel better and not have the HI & Lows sugar problems

that you sometimes get with pills, But I said I wanted to try another

kind of pills first. So he put me on Glucotrol 10mg. and Glucophage

(SP) with was the same make up as my glucovance the I was taking, so

it should do the trick. Well Sat. I started to get a little

lightheaded and nervous feeling, I thought I might of gone too long

with out eating. So I had something to drink.

> I felt better. Well, yesterday(Sunday) the bottom fell out I was

so lightheaded & Shaky that I spent most of the day in bed. I didn't

get to sleep till 5am Sunday morning, because I was so un-nerved that

I couldn't sleep.

> Then today more light-headiness & started the High & Lows Fasting

for 14 hours was 160 ( I know that too long to go without food and I

won't do that again), then 2 hrs after brunch it was 232 and then

when I was fixing supper I started to get very lightheaded and very

shaky and sort of in a fog. Took my sugar and it was 92 (A drop of

140 in just 3 hours time. ) So I drank some OJ and just sat at the

dinner table and finally started to quite shaking , so I could eat

dinner. Then 3 hours after dinner it 195 and before bedtime it's

finally better at 151. It's all over the place. I have heard so many

stories about what normal for a diabetic, could you please let me

know what you have been told.

> My family doc. I really don't care for that much, as he wishey-

washey with his DX, on my husband. I know that I need to change

docs, but at least I can get the referrals from him that I need. But

that's beside the point.

> Well as I sit hear writing you all tonight, I so upset by what

happening, I'm crying,( Something I haven't done in at least the last

10 months, usually I can roll with the punches, but not this time)

because I so upset and can't stand feeling this way.

> Now here the real problem, I know that I couldn't give myself the

insulin injection( Because once before I was on (Standsostatin)(SP)

and had to give myself shots in the leg for 2 weeks and I shook so

bad when doing it my legs looked like pin cushions and were badly

bruised from it. My husband is so afraid of needles that he can't

ever watch any getting a shot, so he out to help me, and my daughter

who still at home could do it but she works and is rarely home, so

she couldn't help much. My doc did tell me that there is a long

acting insulin, so you don't need as many injection through out the

day.

> By I know I couldn't drug the shots. I did ask about an insulin

pump, which I believe I could handle, but he said that you have to be

on the shots first, before the insurance would pay for it.

> I tiring to eat better, now. But it seems that I craving the sweets

very badly, which I tiring to stay away from. You know it hard to

eat when your not hungry or worse yet nauseated. This crappy CP, is

for the birds, with all it complications.

> So I need and advise that you can offer soon, because I can't stand

feeling this way. I know I can always count on this group, because

you all understand and have been thought similar problems.

> Tomorrow I will call my insurance and see if there is any way I can

go back on the Glucovance, which help, but I already know the answer

will be--- Sure if you are willing to pay. We do have a local HMO,

but the non- formulary, comes from the state insurance, since my

husband is consider a state worker and not from the HMO. It seems

each year they are covering less & medicines. What a lady to do?

> I hope this makes a little sense to you all, but like I said I'm in

a fog and can't think straight. Please excuse all the mistakes, as I

not myself tonight.

> Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!! If anyone was

on pills and then went to insulin does it really help allot. Thanks

for you time & Help! Sorry this has turned out to be so long.

> Take Care,

> Louie in WV

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Louie;

Go sorry to hear that you've been having it so rough. I haven't been

on in a while due to my own hospitalization, or I would have answered

you sooner.

As for Diabetis- I have it also. I take long acting " Lantis " . and it

works wonderfully well! It lasts 24hrs. I also take humolog during

the if and when I eat. It is short acting.

As for the art of giving one a shot, it took me a while also. But

after 6 yrs on Sandostatin 3x a day, and now insulin sometimes 6x a

day- NO PROB! :-)

I would say to give the insulin a chance as I think it works alot

better than the pills- but that's just my opinion. I believe it would

help to regulate you alot better also.

Hope this is of some help.

My best thoughts and prayers are with you!

God Bless!

Cyndie

In pancreatitis@y..., " edhall " wrote:

> Hi Pancreatitis Pals,

> If anyone out there has diabetes, I sure could use your help right

away, as I having all lot of problems with my right Now!!!!!!!!!!!

As, you know last Monday, I had surgery to have my pain pump replaced

and that has gone very Well for me, with now problems, except that my

diabetes hashas been acting up since Saturday. Maybe the surgery has

thrown my system out of wacky?

> Well, I try to make a long story short and to the point. In

August , my insurance quit accept my medicine that I was using to

control my diabetes.]It was called Glucovance, and was going the job

quite well. Now it a non-formulary(SP) drug and they won't pay for

it & I can't afford it outright with all the other meds I have to

take. So my family doc tried to convince me to go on insulin, He

said I would feel better and not have the HI & Lows sugar problems

that you sometimes get with pills, But I said I wanted to try another

kind of pills first. So he put me on Glucotrol 10mg. and Glucophage

(SP) with was the same make up as my glucovance the I was taking, so

it should do the trick. Well Sat. I started to get a little

lightheaded and nervous feeling, I thought I might of gone too long

with out eating. So I had something to drink.

> I felt better. Well, yesterday(Sunday) the bottom fell out I was

so lightheaded & Shaky that I spent most of the day in bed. I didn't

get to sleep till 5am Sunday morning, because I was so un-nerved that

I couldn't sleep.

> Then today more light-headiness & started the High & Lows Fasting

for 14 hours was 160 ( I know that too long to go without food and I

won't do that again), then 2 hrs after brunch it was 232 and then

when I was fixing supper I started to get very lightheaded and very

shaky and sort of in a fog. Took my sugar and it was 92 (A drop of

140 in just 3 hours time. ) So I drank some OJ and just sat at the

dinner table and finally started to quite shaking , so I could eat

dinner. Then 3 hours after dinner it 195 and before bedtime it's

finally better at 151. It's all over the place. I have heard so many

stories about what normal for a diabetic, could you please let me

know what you have been told.

> My family doc. I really don't care for that much, as he wishey-

washey with his DX, on my husband. I know that I need to change

docs, but at least I can get the referrals from him that I need. But

that's beside the point.

> Well as I sit hear writing you all tonight, I so upset by what

happening, I'm crying,( Something I haven't done in at least the last

10 months, usually I can roll with the punches, but not this time)

because I so upset and can't stand feeling this way.

> Now here the real problem, I know that I couldn't give myself the

insulin injection( Because once before I was on (Standsostatin)(SP)

and had to give myself shots in the leg for 2 weeks and I shook so

bad when doing it my legs looked like pin cushions and were badly

bruised from it. My husband is so afraid of needles that he can't

ever watch any getting a shot, so he out to help me, and my daughter

who still at home could do it but she works and is rarely home, so

she couldn't help much. My doc did tell me that there is a long

acting insulin, so you don't need as many injection through out the

day.

> By I know I couldn't drug the shots. I did ask about an insulin

pump, which I believe I could handle, but he said that you have to be

on the shots first, before the insurance would pay for it.

> I tiring to eat better, now. But it seems that I craving the sweets

very badly, which I tiring to stay away from. You know it hard to

eat when your not hungry or worse yet nauseated. This crappy CP, is

for the birds, with all it complications.

> So I need and advise that you can offer soon, because I can't stand

feeling this way. I know I can always count on this group, because

you all understand and have been thought similar problems.

> Tomorrow I will call my insurance and see if there is any way I can

go back on the Glucovance, which help, but I already know the answer

will be--- Sure if you are willing to pay. We do have a local HMO,

but the non- formulary, comes from the state insurance, since my

husband is consider a state worker and not from the HMO. It seems

each year they are covering less & medicines. What a lady to do?

> I hope this makes a little sense to you all, but like I said I'm in

a fog and can't think straight. Please excuse all the mistakes, as I

not myself tonight.

> Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!! If anyone was

on pills and then went to insulin does it really help allot. Thanks

for you time & Help! Sorry this has turned out to be so long.

> Take Care,

> Louie in WV

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Louie;

Go sorry to hear that you've been having it so rough. I haven't been

on in a while due to my own hospitalization, or I would have answered

you sooner.

As for Diabetis- I have it also. I take long acting " Lantis " . and it

works wonderfully well! It lasts 24hrs. I also take humolog during

the if and when I eat. It is short acting.

As for the art of giving one a shot, it took me a while also. But

after 6 yrs on Sandostatin 3x a day, and now insulin sometimes 6x a

day- NO PROB! :-)

I would say to give the insulin a chance as I think it works alot

better than the pills- but that's just my opinion. I believe it would

help to regulate you alot better also.

Hope this is of some help.

My best thoughts and prayers are with you!

God Bless!

Cyndie

In pancreatitis@y..., " edhall " wrote:

> Hi Pancreatitis Pals,

> If anyone out there has diabetes, I sure could use your help right

away, as I having all lot of problems with my right Now!!!!!!!!!!!

As, you know last Monday, I had surgery to have my pain pump replaced

and that has gone very Well for me, with now problems, except that my

diabetes hashas been acting up since Saturday. Maybe the surgery has

thrown my system out of wacky?

> Well, I try to make a long story short and to the point. In

August , my insurance quit accept my medicine that I was using to

control my diabetes.]It was called Glucovance, and was going the job

quite well. Now it a non-formulary(SP) drug and they won't pay for

it & I can't afford it outright with all the other meds I have to

take. So my family doc tried to convince me to go on insulin, He

said I would feel better and not have the HI & Lows sugar problems

that you sometimes get with pills, But I said I wanted to try another

kind of pills first. So he put me on Glucotrol 10mg. and Glucophage

(SP) with was the same make up as my glucovance the I was taking, so

it should do the trick. Well Sat. I started to get a little

lightheaded and nervous feeling, I thought I might of gone too long

with out eating. So I had something to drink.

> I felt better. Well, yesterday(Sunday) the bottom fell out I was

so lightheaded & Shaky that I spent most of the day in bed. I didn't

get to sleep till 5am Sunday morning, because I was so un-nerved that

I couldn't sleep.

> Then today more light-headiness & started the High & Lows Fasting

for 14 hours was 160 ( I know that too long to go without food and I

won't do that again), then 2 hrs after brunch it was 232 and then

when I was fixing supper I started to get very lightheaded and very

shaky and sort of in a fog. Took my sugar and it was 92 (A drop of

140 in just 3 hours time. ) So I drank some OJ and just sat at the

dinner table and finally started to quite shaking , so I could eat

dinner. Then 3 hours after dinner it 195 and before bedtime it's

finally better at 151. It's all over the place. I have heard so many

stories about what normal for a diabetic, could you please let me

know what you have been told.

> My family doc. I really don't care for that much, as he wishey-

washey with his DX, on my husband. I know that I need to change

docs, but at least I can get the referrals from him that I need. But

that's beside the point.

> Well as I sit hear writing you all tonight, I so upset by what

happening, I'm crying,( Something I haven't done in at least the last

10 months, usually I can roll with the punches, but not this time)

because I so upset and can't stand feeling this way.

> Now here the real problem, I know that I couldn't give myself the

insulin injection( Because once before I was on (Standsostatin)(SP)

and had to give myself shots in the leg for 2 weeks and I shook so

bad when doing it my legs looked like pin cushions and were badly

bruised from it. My husband is so afraid of needles that he can't

ever watch any getting a shot, so he out to help me, and my daughter

who still at home could do it but she works and is rarely home, so

she couldn't help much. My doc did tell me that there is a long

acting insulin, so you don't need as many injection through out the

day.

> By I know I couldn't drug the shots. I did ask about an insulin

pump, which I believe I could handle, but he said that you have to be

on the shots first, before the insurance would pay for it.

> I tiring to eat better, now. But it seems that I craving the sweets

very badly, which I tiring to stay away from. You know it hard to

eat when your not hungry or worse yet nauseated. This crappy CP, is

for the birds, with all it complications.

> So I need and advise that you can offer soon, because I can't stand

feeling this way. I know I can always count on this group, because

you all understand and have been thought similar problems.

> Tomorrow I will call my insurance and see if there is any way I can

go back on the Glucovance, which help, but I already know the answer

will be--- Sure if you are willing to pay. We do have a local HMO,

but the non- formulary, comes from the state insurance, since my

husband is consider a state worker and not from the HMO. It seems

each year they are covering less & medicines. What a lady to do?

> I hope this makes a little sense to you all, but like I said I'm in

a fog and can't think straight. Please excuse all the mistakes, as I

not myself tonight.

> Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!! If anyone was

on pills and then went to insulin does it really help allot. Thanks

for you time & Help! Sorry this has turned out to be so long.

> Take Care,

> Louie in WV

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Louie

I am so sorry you are having such problems getting your BSL stable,

as a diabetic myself, I know how scary that can be. As for the

emotions running high, I get like that when I am too high, or if I go

down too quick.

I think you need to go on the injections, once you become used to it,

it really isn't a big deal. In Australia you can get an insulin pen,

it is just like the needle stick you use for testing your levels, see

about getting one over there.

I have also found that surgery makes me unstable for a couple of

weeks too, also having a panc attack also sets things haywire.

My thoughts are with you and hope that you stablelize asap.

Regards

> Hi Pancreatitis Pals,

> If anyone out there has diabetes, I sure could use your help right

away, as I having all lot of problems with my right Now!!!!!!!!!!!

As, you know last Monday, I had surgery to have my pain pump replaced

and that has gone very Well for me, with now problems, except that my

diabetes hashas been acting up since Saturday. Maybe the surgery has

thrown my system out of wacky?

> Well, I try to make a long story short and to the point. In

August , my insurance quit accept my medicine that I was using to

control my diabetes.]It was called Glucovance, and was going the job

quite well. Now it a non-formulary(SP) drug and they won't pay for

it & I can't afford it outright with all the other meds I have to

take. So my family doc tried to convince me to go on insulin, He

said I would feel better and not have the HI & Lows sugar problems

that you sometimes get with pills, But I said I wanted to try another

kind of pills first. So he put me on Glucotrol 10mg. and Glucophage

(SP) with was the same make up as my glucovance the I was taking, so

it should do the trick. Well Sat. I started to get a little

lightheaded and nervous feeling, I thought I might of gone too long

with out eating. So I had something to drink.

> I felt better. Well, yesterday(Sunday) the bottom fell out I was

so lightheaded & Shaky that I spent most of the day in bed. I didn't

get to sleep till 5am Sunday morning, because I was so un-nerved that

I couldn't sleep.

> Then today more light-headiness & started the High & Lows Fasting

for 14 hours was 160 ( I know that too long to go without food and I

won't do that again), then 2 hrs after brunch it was 232 and then

when I was fixing supper I started to get very lightheaded and very

shaky and sort of in a fog. Took my sugar and it was 92 (A drop of

140 in just 3 hours time. ) So I drank some OJ and just sat at the

dinner table and finally started to quite shaking , so I could eat

dinner. Then 3 hours after dinner it 195 and before bedtime it's

finally better at 151. It's all over the place. I have heard so many

stories about what normal for a diabetic, could you please let me

know what you have been told.

> My family doc. I really don't care for that much, as he wishey-

washey with his DX, on my husband. I know that I need to change

docs, but at least I can get the referrals from him that I need. But

that's beside the point.

> Well as I sit hear writing you all tonight, I so upset by what

happening, I'm crying,( Something I haven't done in at least the last

10 months, usually I can roll with the punches, but not this time)

because I so upset and can't stand feeling this way.

> Now here the real problem, I know that I couldn't give myself the

insulin injection( Because once before I was on (Standsostatin)(SP)

and had to give myself shots in the leg for 2 weeks and I shook so

bad when doing it my legs looked like pin cushions and were badly

bruised from it. My husband is so afraid of needles that he can't

ever watch any getting a shot, so he out to help me, and my daughter

who still at home could do it but she works and is rarely home, so

she couldn't help much. My doc did tell me that there is a long

acting insulin, so you don't need as many injection through out the

day.

> By I know I couldn't drug the shots. I did ask about an insulin

pump, which I believe I could handle, but he said that you have to be

on the shots first, before the insurance would pay for it.

> I tiring to eat better, now. But it seems that I craving the sweets

very badly, which I tiring to stay away from. You know it hard to

eat when your not hungry or worse yet nauseated. This crappy CP, is

for the birds, with all it complications.

> So I need and advise that you can offer soon, because I can't stand

feeling this way. I know I can always count on this group, because

you all understand and have been thought similar problems.

> Tomorrow I will call my insurance and see if there is any way I can

go back on the Glucovance, which help, but I already know the answer

will be--- Sure if you are willing to pay. We do have a local HMO,

but the non- formulary, comes from the state insurance, since my

husband is consider a state worker and not from the HMO. It seems

each year they are covering less & medicines. What a lady to do?

> I hope this makes a little sense to you all, but like I said I'm in

a fog and can't think straight. Please excuse all the mistakes, as I

not myself tonight.

> Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!! If anyone was

on pills and then went to insulin does it really help allot. Thanks

for you time & Help! Sorry this has turned out to be so long.

> Take Care,

> Louie in WV

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cyndie,

Thanks for the advise. I have one quick question for you about your shots. Did

you have someone in the beginning to help you give yourself the shots? I have

shots for my migraines when they get real bad which may only be a couple times a

year that I need the shots, but they go into my leg and by the time I get done

giving myself the shot I have a bruise and about 4-6 places where I have hit

myself from shaking so bad, so this is why I don't think I could do it several

times a day with insulin, Maybe the shots get easier with time. Also my doc

said I will have more energy with insulin. Is this true with you?

Tues & Wed, It settle down so I thought I was ok, but Thurs. I started to feel

very jittery and just sort of like I wanted to take everyone head off who talk

to me. Well, I decided to check my sugar Friday & it was all over the place. It

was 232 2-hrs after lunch and then 3 hrs later it was down to 82 and I was

shaky again, so I drank some OJ before I could eat dinner. Then 2 hrs after it

was ok at 121. But by bedtime it was 185. SO you can see it's still all over

the place, And more of the same thing on Sat. Sat. Night I went out to see our

best friends and only at a few pretzels in the evening and my sugar at bedtime

was 238. I don't know what to do for it when it too high. Do you? I do know

what to do if it too low. Thanks for your help.

Take Care,

Louie in WV

Re: Diabetic-Need Advise Now!!!! Having Problems

Hi Louie;

Go sorry to hear that you've been having it so rough. I haven't been

on in a while due to my own hospitalization, or I would have answered

you sooner.

As for Diabetis- I have it also. I take long acting " Lantis " . and it

works wonderfully well! It lasts 24hrs. I also take humolog during

the if and when I eat. It is short acting.

As for the art of giving one a shot, it took me a while also. But

after 6 yrs on Sandostatin 3x a day, and now insulin sometimes 6x a

day- NO PROB! :-)

I would say to give the insulin a chance as I think it works alot

better than the pills- but that's just my opinion. I believe it would

help to regulate you alot better also.

Hope this is of some help.

My best thoughts and prayers are with you!

God Bless!

Cyndie

In pancreatitis@y..., " edhall " wrote:

> Hi Pancreatitis Pals,

> If anyone out there has diabetes, I sure could use your help right

away, as I having all lot of problems with my right Now!!!!!!!!!!!

As, you know last Monday, I had surgery to have my pain pump replaced

and that has gone very Well for me, with now problems, except that my

diabetes hashas been acting up since Saturday. Maybe the surgery has

thrown my system out of wacky?

> Well, I try to make a long story short and to the point. In

August , my insurance quit accept my medicine that I was using to

control my diabetes.]It was called Glucovance, and was going the job

quite well. Now it a non-formulary(SP) drug and they won't pay for

it & I can't afford it outright with all the other meds I have to

take. So my family doc tried to convince me to go on insulin, He

said I would feel better and not have the HI & Lows sugar problems

that you sometimes get with pills, But I said I wanted to try another

kind of pills first. So he put me on Glucotrol 10mg. and Glucophage

(SP) with was the same make up as my glucovance the I was taking, so

it should do the trick. Well Sat. I started to get a little

lightheaded and nervous feeling, I thought I might of gone too long

with out eating. So I had something to drink.

> I felt better. Well, yesterday(Sunday) the bottom fell out I was

so lightheaded & Shaky that I spent most of the day in bed. I didn't

get to sleep till 5am Sunday morning, because I was so un-nerved that

I couldn't sleep.

> Then today more light-headiness & started the High & Lows Fasting

for 14 hours was 160 ( I know that too long to go without food and I

won't do that again), then 2 hrs after brunch it was 232 and then

when I was fixing supper I started to get very lightheaded and very

shaky and sort of in a fog. Took my sugar and it was 92 (A drop of

140 in just 3 hours time. ) So I drank some OJ and just sat at the

dinner table and finally started to quite shaking , so I could eat

dinner. Then 3 hours after dinner it 195 and before bedtime it's

finally better at 151. It's all over the place. I have heard so many

stories about what normal for a diabetic, could you please let me

know what you have been told.

> My family doc. I really don't care for that much, as he wishey-

washey with his DX, on my husband. I know that I need to change

docs, but at least I can get the referrals from him that I need. But

that's beside the point.

> Well as I sit hear writing you all tonight, I so upset by what

happening, I'm crying,( Something I haven't done in at least the last

10 months, usually I can roll with the punches, but not this time)

because I so upset and can't stand feeling this way.

> Now here the real problem, I know that I couldn't give myself the

insulin injection( Because once before I was on (Standsostatin)(SP)

and had to give myself shots in the leg for 2 weeks and I shook so

bad when doing it my legs looked like pin cushions and were badly

bruised from it. My husband is so afraid of needles that he can't

ever watch any getting a shot, so he out to help me, and my daughter

who still at home could do it but she works and is rarely home, so

she couldn't help much. My doc did tell me that there is a long

acting insulin, so you don't need as many injection through out the

day.

> By I know I couldn't drug the shots. I did ask about an insulin

pump, which I believe I could handle, but he said that you have to be

on the shots first, before the insurance would pay for it.

> I tiring to eat better, now. But it seems that I craving the sweets

very badly, which I tiring to stay away from. You know it hard to

eat when your not hungry or worse yet nauseated. This crappy CP, is

for the birds, with all it complications.

> So I need and advise that you can offer soon, because I can't stand

feeling this way. I know I can always count on this group, because

you all understand and have been thought similar problems.

> Tomorrow I will call my insurance and see if there is any way I can

go back on the Glucovance, which help, but I already know the answer

will be--- Sure if you are willing to pay. We do have a local HMO,

but the non- formulary, comes from the state insurance, since my

husband is consider a state worker and not from the HMO. It seems

each year they are covering less & medicines. What a lady to do?

> I hope this makes a little sense to you all, but like I said I'm in

a fog and can't think straight. Please excuse all the mistakes, as I

not myself tonight.

> Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!! If anyone was

on pills and then went to insulin does it really help allot. Thanks

for you time & Help! Sorry this has turned out to be so long.

> Take Care,

> Louie in WV

>

>

>