Re: LDN & Constipation (again)

November 26, 2006

i'm not on ldn, yet, but take digestive enzymes each and every day, with all my meals. have found them a big help with my digestive problems, with crohn's disease & they help with my sensitivity with milk & ice cream, and other food i've found hard to digest!!

keep on keeping on!! marshiris

November 26, 2006

>

> I've now been on LDN

for about two weeks.

I've been taking it in

the morning due to sleep

> problems. I started at

1.5mg for the first week,

then went up to 3mg the

second week.

>

> During that time I've

become constipated. It

coincided exactly with

starting LDN, and this is

> the second time I've

tried LDN and the second

time I've become

constipated after I

started.

>

> Skip and others have

assured me there's no way

LDN could cause

constipation, but I seem

to

> remember many others

here have also

experienced constipation

from LDN.

>

> My question is, for

those of you that did

experience it, did it

wear off over time? I'm

hoping it

> may be like the sleep

disturbance, which the

body seems to adjust to

after a while in many

> cases. I really want

to give LDN a chance to

work, but ironically, one

of the main symptoms

> of my Crohn's Disease

(the reason I'm taking

LDN in the first place)

is constipation!

>

> Thanks,

> Chris

>

===========

What does your diet

consist of?

Eat a fruit breakfast, 1

whole banana, 2 pears and

a mango or strawberries,

apple and a pear or

peaches, grapes and a

banana. Or canteloupe

and watermelon. Or make

a fruit smoothie.

For lunch start off with

a large raw vegetable

salad before the main

lunch meal. And do the

same for supper.

Your snack foods need to

be either fruit or raw

vegetables. The more raw

you go, the better.

Avoid constipating foods.

This will make your diet

more alkaline.

November 26, 2006

An increase in endogenous opioids could explain this, as opiates are known to cause constipation...

Best wishes,

Maurice Preter, M.D.

Psychiatry and Neurology

Assistant Professor of Clinical PsychiatryColumbia University College of Physicians & Surgeons

1160 Fifth Avenue, Suite 112 NY, NY 10029

+1-212-713-5336 www.psychiatryneurology.com

From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of chriskjezpSent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 1:02 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] LDN & Constipation (again)

I've now been on LDN for about two weeks. I've been taking it in the morning due to sleep problems. I started at 1.5mg for the first week, then went up to 3mg the second week. During that time I've become constipated. It coincided exactly with starting LDN, and this is the second time I've tried LDN and the second time I've become constipated after I started.Skip and others have assured me there's no way LDN could cause constipation, but I seem to remember many others here have also experienced constipation from LDN. My question is, for those of you that did experience it, did it wear off over time? I'm hoping it may be like the sleep disturbance, which the body seems to adjust to after a while in many cases. I really want to give LDN a chance to work, but ironically, one of the main symptoms of my Crohn's Disease (the reason I'm taking LDN in the first place) is constipation!Thanks,Chris

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November 26, 2006

that one sounds positively sound!! like my using MSM, which i found helps me with the crohn's! maybe i'll try the n-acetyl glucosamine!! keep on keeping on with what is working for you!!

marshiris

November 26, 2006

This is exactly what I had suggested previously on the board, and to Skip when I

spoke

with him. There was some reason that Skip didn't agree with this, but I can't

remember

what it is. Thanks for your informed opinion.

Chris

>

> An increase in endogenous opioids could explain this, as opiates are known

> to cause constipation...

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Maurice Preter, M.D.

>

> Psychiatry and Neurology

>

> Assistant Professor of Clinical Psychiatry

> Columbia University College of Physicians & Surgeons

>

> 1160 Fifth Avenue, Suite 112 NY, NY 10029

>

> +1-212-713-5336 www.psychiatryneurology.com

> <http://www.psychiatryneurology.com/>

>

> _____

>

> From: low dose naltrexone

> [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of chriskjezp

> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 1:02 PM

> low dose naltrexone

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] LDN & Constipation (again)

>

> I've now been on LDN for about two weeks. I've been taking it in the morning

> due to sleep

> problems. I started at 1.5mg for the first week, then went up to 3mg the

> second week.

>

> During that time I've become constipated. It coincided exactly with starting

> LDN, and this is

> the second time I've tried LDN and the second time I've become constipated

> after I started.

>

> Skip and others have assured me there's no way LDN could cause constipation,

> but I seem to

> remember many others here have also experienced constipation from LDN.

>

> My question is, for those of you that did experience it, did it wear off

> over time? I'm hoping it

> may be like the sleep disturbance, which the body seems to adjust to after a

> while in many

> cases. I really want to give LDN a chance to work, but ironically, one of

> the main symptoms

> of my Crohn's Disease (the reason I'm taking LDN in the first place) is

> constipation!

>

> Thanks,

> Chris

>

November 26, 2006

I developed constipation about six months into LDN. Have you

tried digestive enzymes? They've really made a difference for me. At

Dr. Lawrence's suggestion, I take the animal-based ones. Do you eat a

high-fiber diet?

November 26, 2006

I'm taking Primal Defense (5 ea morn and eve) and has helped digestion and

constipation

greatly. Except for Thanksgiving)

Supposedly after a month at this level, you can go down to 3 a day.

November 27, 2006

>

> I've now been on LDN for about two weeks. I've been taking it in

the morning due to sleep

> problems. I started at 1.5mg for the first week, then went up to

3mg the second week.

>

> During that time I've become constipated. It coincided exactly

with starting LDN, and this is

> the second time I've tried LDN and the second time I've become

constipated after I started.

>

> Skip and others have assured me there's no way LDN could cause

constipation, but I seem to

> remember many others here have also experienced constipation from

LDN.

>

> My question is, for those of you that did experience it, did it

wear off over time? I'm hoping it

> may be like the sleep disturbance, which the body seems to adjust

to after a while in many

> cases. I really want to give LDN a chance to work, but ironically,

one of the main symptoms

> of my Crohn's Disease (the reason I'm taking LDN in the first

place) is constipation!

>

> Thanks,

> Chris

>

I feel LDN has exacerbated my constipation problem. I take six fiber

caplets a day of Citrucel along with eating plenty of raw vegetables

and fresh fruit (chewed well) and drinking lots of water (distilled).

This should make your bowel movements regular. If you still need more

help I'd suggest you try digital manipulation of the anal sphincter

over using addictive, unnatural laxatives. A stool softener wouldn't

hurt once in a while.

Artie

November 27, 2006

N-acetyl glucosamine has shown promise for treating inflammatory bowel

diseases such as Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis. N-acetyl

glucosamine forms part of an enzyme needed to produce mucus.

Therefore, it is believed to increase the production of the mucus that

lines the lower gastrointestinal tract, providing a protective effect.

IgA is the actual immunoglobulin, and Secretory IgA refers to this

immunoglobulin in the gut. It helps create the mucus lining, and I

use it particularly for constipation.

I get it (NAG) at NF Formulas, a branch of Integrative Therapeutics.

Dr. JM

posted by

November 27, 2006

If you want to try something natural, try equal parts of apple and spinach juice (2 cups per day -one morning - one evening) and have yet to see even the worst case of constipation last more than 4 or 5 days with no drug side effects, nothing dangerous to the system.

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

http://survivecancerfoundation.org

Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of LandauSent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:08 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN & Constipation (again)

I developed constipation about six months into LDN. Have you tried digestive enzymes? They've really made a difference for me. At Dr. Lawrence's suggestion, I take the animal-based ones. Do you eat a high-fiber diet?

November 27, 2006

Artie

Doesn't that much Citrucel bother your blood sugar?

An option with nutritional benefit would be to get some whole flaxseed and a coffee grinder and add a tablespoon or two of freshly ground seed to the foods you eat.

Also, make sure your diet has plenty of Magnesium rich foods.

mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

I feel LDN has exacerbated my constipation problem. I take six fiber caplets a day of Citrucel along with eating plenty of raw vegetables and fresh fruit (chewed well) and drinking lots of water (distilled). This should make your bowel movements regular. If you still need more help I'd suggest you try digital manipulation of the anal sphincter over using addictive, unnatural laxatives. A stool softener wouldn't hurt once in a while.Artie

November 27, 2006

Bruce

I find that the iron in spinach is VERY constipating.

mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

Re: LDN & Constipation (again)

Posted by: "Bruce Guilmette, Ph.D." bruce@... drguilmette

Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:44 pm (PST)

If you want to try something natural, try equal parts of apple and spinachjuice (2 cups per day -one morning - one evening) and have yet to see eventhe worst case of constipation last more than 4 or 5 days with no drug sideeffects, nothing dangerous to the system.Bruce Guilmette, PhDSurvive Cancer Foundation, Inc.http://survivecancerfoundation.org <http://survivecancerfoundation.org/>

November 27, 2006

>

> Artie

>

> Doesn't that much Citrucel bother your blood sugar?

>

> An option with nutritional benefit would be to get some whole

flaxseed and a

> coffee grinder and add a tablespoon or two of freshly ground seed to

the

> foods you eat.

>

> Also, make sure your diet has plenty of Magnesium rich foods.

>

> mjh

> " The Basil Book "

> _http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)

To my knowledge the Citrucel doesn't bother my blood sugar. All my

blood tests come back normal. My neurologist said I can take up to six

caplets a day and so do the directions on the bottle for an adult. I am

6'7 " and weigh 250lbs. Citrucel is the only thing that works for me,

most of the time.

Artie

November 27, 2006

chrishave you tried aloe juice?cyndiOn Nov 26, 2006, at 9:32 PM, Bruce Guilmette, Ph.D. wrote:If you want to try something natural, try equal parts of apple and spinach juice (2 cups per day -one morning - one evening) and have yet to see even the worst case of constipation last more than 4 or 5 days with no drug side effects, nothing dangerous to the system. Bruce Guilmette, PhDSurvive Cancer Foundation, Inc.http://survivecancerfoundation.org Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV) From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of LandauSent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:08 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN & Constipation (again) I developed constipation about six months into LDN. Have you tried digestive enzymes? They've really made a difference for me. At Dr. Lawrence's suggestion, I take the animal-based ones. Do you eat a high-fiber diet?

November 27, 2006

Thanks to everyone for your replies and suggestions. Unfortunately,

I've tried them all in the past to no avail. High fiber diets can be

very bad for someone with Crohn's Disease if the terminal ileum is

constricted, as it is in my case. Digestive enzymes have never been

helpful to me, and oral probiotics also seem to make things worse (I

have theories on why this is the case as well, but I'll save it for

another time). Magnesium does increase motility somewhat but leads

to loose, incomplete bowel movements and cramping/gas. Zelnorm was a

disaster for me, as most drugs usually are. The raw vegetable juice

tends to irritate my gut, which is very sensitive, but that might be

worth a try again.

Incidentally, I'm very wary of Primal Defense as a probiotic for two

reasons. One, it contains soil-based organisms which produce spores

that are proven to further depress the immune system in immuno-

compromised individuals. These spores are extremely difficult to

eliminate outside of the digestive tract and can withstand the

strongest antibiotics known to human science. Two, it turns out

Jordan Rubin (the founder of Garden of Life, who makes Primal

Defense) has been exposed as a fraud. Both advanced degrees that he

claims to have were found to be from " online universities " that had

no curriculum and have since been shut down by the FTC. I would not

trust any products from his company in light of this information.

How can we possibly trust the claims he makes about his products if

he lied so blatantly and publicly about his qualifications?

I was hoping to find that there may have been a precedent for people

becoming constipated when they started LDN and it wearing off over

time. However, it sounds as if the opposite may be true. Some folks

seem to become constipated after they've been on it for a while. I'm

going to stick with it for a while longer and see if there's anything

I can do to get things moving. But if this keeps up, and I don't

have any improvement with other symptoms, there won't be much reason

to continue.

Chris

November 27, 2006