Re: new guidelines for accutane usage + anabolics

[Guest guest]

speaking of anabolic steroids. women have birth control pills with

sythetic low androgenic progesterones (ie ortho tri cylcin) which

quell acne and inflammatory rosacea, and may reduce sebum

production. the corresponding pharmaceutical intervention for males

would be a low androgenic high anabolic steroid, which would lower

endogenenous testosterone production and dht conversion, thus

lessening the inflammatory acne effect. other studies have shown,

even testosterone (injectable esters such as testosterone enanthate,

cypionate, etc -- which have different pharmacokinetics than

engogenous testosterone can, at times, supress inflammatory acne --

they can also cause horrible eruptions, too) we really need more

information on this.

because of the dea scheduling anabolic substances, no research is

being done on the use of low androgenic high anabolic steroids with

regards to skin in males. most the research community is interested

in them are for testosterone replacement therapy and aids wasting.

its a terrible wasted opportunity -- we all loose out on valuable

knowledge. once males have reached their full height, this could

prove to be a valuable tool, especially for those who cannot tolerate

accutane and/or antibiotics, or as an adjunct.

damn the dea, damn the fda, and damn the accutane smart program. all

this is beurocratic bs which gets in the way of continued medical

progress!

as far as agression goes, maybe we need the citezenry to get a tad

more agressive in telling the regulatory types where they can do with

the accutane smart program

> > Has anyone heard about new limitations on accutane treatment in

the

> US? A

> > client of mine was told by her derm yesterday that in a few weeks

> only the

> > most severe acne patients will be allowed to receive accutane.

She

> claims

> > there is an actual cyst requirement ( a number) you have to meet

so

> she won't

> > be able to use it on as many people as she'd like to any more.

> Does this

> > affect the low dose treatment for rosacea or the just the regular

> strength

> > acne vulgaris treatment?

> >

> > Jana

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

speaking of anabolic steroids. women have birth control pills with

sythetic low androgenic progesterones (ie ortho tri cylcin) which

quell acne and inflammatory rosacea, and may reduce sebum

production. the corresponding pharmaceutical intervention for males

would be a low androgenic high anabolic steroid, which would lower

endogenenous testosterone production and dht conversion, thus

lessening the inflammatory acne effect. other studies have shown,

even testosterone (injectable esters such as testosterone enanthate,

cypionate, etc -- which have different pharmacokinetics than

engogenous testosterone can, at times, supress inflammatory acne --

they can also cause horrible eruptions, too) we really need more

information on this.

because of the dea scheduling anabolic substances, no research is

being done on the use of low androgenic high anabolic steroids with

regards to skin in males. most the research community is interested

in them are for testosterone replacement therapy and aids wasting.

its a terrible wasted opportunity -- we all loose out on valuable

knowledge. once males have reached their full height, this could

prove to be a valuable tool, especially for those who cannot tolerate

accutane and/or antibiotics, or as an adjunct.

damn the dea, damn the fda, and damn the accutane smart program. all

this is beurocratic bs which gets in the way of continued medical

progress!

as far as agression goes, maybe we need the citezenry to get a tad

more agressive in telling the regulatory types where they can do with

the accutane smart program

> > Has anyone heard about new limitations on accutane treatment in

the

> US? A

> > client of mine was told by her derm yesterday that in a few weeks

> only the

> > most severe acne patients will be allowed to receive accutane.

She

> claims

> > there is an actual cyst requirement ( a number) you have to meet

so

> she won't

> > be able to use it on as many people as she'd like to any more.

> Does this

> > affect the low dose treatment for rosacea or the just the regular

> strength

> > acne vulgaris treatment?

> >

> > Jana

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

speaking of anabolic steroids. women have birth control pills with

sythetic low androgenic progesterones (ie ortho tri cylcin) which

quell acne and inflammatory rosacea, and may reduce sebum

production. the corresponding pharmaceutical intervention for males

would be a low androgenic high anabolic steroid, which would lower

endogenenous testosterone production and dht conversion, thus

lessening the inflammatory acne effect. other studies have shown,

even testosterone (injectable esters such as testosterone enanthate,

cypionate, etc -- which have different pharmacokinetics than

engogenous testosterone can, at times, supress inflammatory acne --

they can also cause horrible eruptions, too) we really need more

information on this.

because of the dea scheduling anabolic substances, no research is

being done on the use of low androgenic high anabolic steroids with

regards to skin in males. most the research community is interested

in them are for testosterone replacement therapy and aids wasting.

its a terrible wasted opportunity -- we all loose out on valuable

knowledge. once males have reached their full height, this could

prove to be a valuable tool, especially for those who cannot tolerate

accutane and/or antibiotics, or as an adjunct.

damn the dea, damn the fda, and damn the accutane smart program. all

this is beurocratic bs which gets in the way of continued medical

progress!

as far as agression goes, maybe we need the citezenry to get a tad

more agressive in telling the regulatory types where they can do with

the accutane smart program

> > Has anyone heard about new limitations on accutane treatment in

the

> US? A

> > client of mine was told by her derm yesterday that in a few weeks

> only the

> > most severe acne patients will be allowed to receive accutane.

She

> claims

> > there is an actual cyst requirement ( a number) you have to meet

so

> she won't

> > be able to use it on as many people as she'd like to any more.

> Does this

> > affect the low dose treatment for rosacea or the just the regular

> strength

> > acne vulgaris treatment?

> >

> > Jana

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

-Which anabolics would you be referring to as possible treatments?

Deca Durabolan? This is a very good discussion for sure,there are a

few aromatize inhibitors too,such as arimidex,nolvadex and provorin,I

wonder how these would play into the whole picture?

-- In rosacea-support@y..., " doubleoh7_mi6 " wrote:

> speaking of anabolic steroids. women have birth control pills

with

> sythetic low androgenic progesterones (ie ortho tri cylcin) which

> quell acne and inflammatory rosacea, and may reduce sebum

> production. the corresponding pharmaceutical intervention for

males

> would be a low androgenic high anabolic steroid, which would lower

> endogenenous testosterone production and dht conversion, thus

> lessening the inflammatory acne effect. other studies have shown,

> even testosterone (injectable esters such as testosterone

enanthate,

> cypionate, etc -- which have different pharmacokinetics than

> engogenous testosterone can, at times, supress inflammatory acne --

> they can also cause horrible eruptions, too) we really need more

> information on this.

>

> because of the dea scheduling anabolic substances, no research is

> being done on the use of low androgenic high anabolic steroids with

> regards to skin in males. most the research community is

interested

> in them are for testosterone replacement therapy and aids wasting.

> its a terrible wasted opportunity -- we all loose out on valuable

> knowledge. once males have reached their full height, this could

> prove to be a valuable tool, especially for those who cannot

tolerate

> accutane and/or antibiotics, or as an adjunct.

>

> damn the dea, damn the fda, and damn the accutane smart program.

all

> this is beurocratic bs which gets in the way of continued medical

> progress!

>

> as far as agression goes, maybe we need the citezenry to get a tad

> more agressive in telling the regulatory types where they can do

with

> the accutane smart program

>

>

> > > Has anyone heard about new limitations on accutane treatment in

> the

> > US? A

> > > client of mine was told by her derm yesterday that in a few

weeks

> > only the

> > > most severe acne patients will be allowed to receive accutane.

> She

> > claims

> > > there is an actual cyst requirement ( a number) you have to

meet

> so

> > she won't

> > > be able to use it on as many people as she'd like to any more.

> > Does this

> > > affect the low dose treatment for rosacea or the just the

regular

> > strength

> > > acne vulgaris treatment?

> > >

> > > Jana

> > >

> > >

> > >