Re: Cleansers (was Salicylic acid, willow bark, BHAs, etc)

April 9, 2002

> used to alternate between Zia Fresh Cleansing Gel and the Tolerain

> Dermo Cleanser. They didn't irritate my face, but they didn't

> completely wash away all oils, grime, etc.

Agreed with the Tolerain Dermo Cleanser. I don't know if you tried

their new Foaming stuff -- I love the mouse consistency and bubbles

and it really cleans my face. But even if I rinse it off quickly it

clogs my pores (myristate and related products don't work well for

me). For those who can tolerate myristate, it might be an option.

> A close second is Aveeno's Creamy Baby Cleanser. That one is

> good too.

I've heard of the company, but not that particular product. Do you

have the list of ingredients convenient? (I don't have seborrhea, so

our skins probably need different things/react differently.)

These days I'm using Pharmaceutical Specialties' complexion soap -- I

don't react to it, but it doesn't clean much at all. Besides, bar

soaps are just no fun to use.

For those in the market for a new cleanser, I hear thata Clinique

just came out with a new one. Here's the ingredients:

COMFORTING CREAM CLEANSER

ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified [] c12-15 alkyl

benzoate [] butylene glycol []

caprylic/capric triglyceride [] glyceryl stearate [] ppg-2 myristyl

ether propionate [] cetyl alcohol []

glycerin [] stearyl glycyrrhetinate [] cetearyl alcohol [] arginine []

cetyl esters [] ceteareth-20 []

octyl hydroxystearate [] cetyl ricinoleate [] carbomer [] disodium

edta [] phenoxyethanol [] methylparaben

Marjorie

Marjorie Lazoff, MD

April 10, 2002

>

> > used to alternate between Zia Fresh Cleansing Gel and the

Tolerain

> > Dermo Cleanser. They didn't irritate my face, but they didn't

> > completely wash away all oils, grime, etc.

>

> Agreed with the Tolerain Dermo Cleanser. I don't know if you tried

> their new Foaming stuff -- I love the mouse consistency and bubbles

> and it really cleans my face. But even if I rinse it off quickly it

> clogs my pores (myristate and related products don't work well for

> me). For those who can tolerate myristate, it might be an option.

>

YES!!! The tolerain foaming cleanser is crap. It clogged my pores,

too, along with the daily facial skincare moisturizing cream. I

therefore do not trust anything from tolerain, including the dermo

cleanser, though the dermo cleanser may be the least noxious of all

tolerain's products. Experienced bad breakouts and still upset with

them over this. For me it's cetaphil bar, now and forever, till

death do us part, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health.

I don't care if another french company comes out with a great

cleanser, I'm not trying anything new from anyone.

I am fed up with topicals, at this point.

> > A close second is Aveeno's Creamy Baby Cleanser. That one is

> > good too.

>

> I've heard of the company, but not that particular product. Do you

> have the list of ingredients convenient? (I don't have seborrhea,

so

> our skins probably need different things/react differently.)

>

> These days I'm using Pharmaceutical Specialties' complexion soap --

I

> don't react to it, but it doesn't clean much at all. Besides, bar

> soaps are just no fun to use.

>

> For those in the market for a new cleanser, I hear thata Clinique

> just came out with a new one. Here's the ingredients:

>

> COMFORTING CREAM CLEANSER

>

> ingredients: water (aqua purificata) purified [] c12-15 alkyl

> benzoate [] butylene glycol []

> caprylic/capric triglyceride [] glyceryl stearate [] ppg-2 myristyl

> ether propionate [] cetyl alcohol []

> glycerin [] stearyl glycyrrhetinate [] cetearyl alcohol [] arginine

[]

> cetyl esters [] ceteareth-20 []

> octyl hydroxystearate [] cetyl ricinoleate [] carbomer [] disodium

> edta [] phenoxyethanol [] methylparaben

>

> Marjorie

>

> Marjorie Lazoff, MD

April 10, 2002