Re: Is it worth dying for?

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In a message dated 6/14/00 9:11:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

MiniGastricBypass (AT) e writes:

> Since reading what happened to

> her, the only question that keeps going in my mind is " is it worth

> dying for " . I have not been able to answer that question for myself

> yet.

This is a very personal decision and I am not trying to make your decision

for you, but please remember one thing. Most of us have this surgery because

we are trying to LIVE, not die. At 367 lbs, I felt my life was really

slipping away from me. The quality had been gone for sometime, but I was 43,

the Mother of 3 little boys the wife of a wonderful, dear man. I had the

surgery because I wanted to LIVE. I scheduled my surgery the day after

died, so I knew all about it. wanted to live too. She was

full of life and hope. Remember the statistic we don't have is how many of

us would be dead if we had NOT had the surgery. That is the real statistic

that counts for me.

Safe journey,

MGB 03 MAY 00

Safely on the other side!!!!

Dr. Rutledge clos.net

Self-funded company plan administered by Interactive Medical

Denied on appeal as an excluded benefit

Self Pay

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In a message dated 6/14/00 9:11:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

MiniGastricBypass (AT) e writes:

> Since reading what happened to

> her, the only question that keeps going in my mind is " is it worth

> dying for " . I have not been able to answer that question for myself

> yet.

This is a very personal decision and I am not trying to make your decision

for you, but please remember one thing. Most of us have this surgery because

we are trying to LIVE, not die. At 367 lbs, I felt my life was really

slipping away from me. The quality had been gone for sometime, but I was 43,

the Mother of 3 little boys the wife of a wonderful, dear man. I had the

surgery because I wanted to LIVE. I scheduled my surgery the day after

died, so I knew all about it. wanted to live too. She was

full of life and hope. Remember the statistic we don't have is how many of

us would be dead if we had NOT had the surgery. That is the real statistic

that counts for me.

Safe journey,

MGB 03 MAY 00

Safely on the other side!!!!

Dr. Rutledge clos.net

Self-funded company plan administered by Interactive Medical

Denied on appeal as an excluded benefit

Self Pay

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/14/00 9:11:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

MiniGastricBypass (AT) e writes:

> Since reading what happened to

> her, the only question that keeps going in my mind is " is it worth

> dying for " . I have not been able to answer that question for myself

> yet.

This is a very personal decision and I am not trying to make your decision

for you, but please remember one thing. Most of us have this surgery because

we are trying to LIVE, not die. At 367 lbs, I felt my life was really

slipping away from me. The quality had been gone for sometime, but I was 43,

the Mother of 3 little boys the wife of a wonderful, dear man. I had the

surgery because I wanted to LIVE. I scheduled my surgery the day after

died, so I knew all about it. wanted to live too. She was

full of life and hope. Remember the statistic we don't have is how many of

us would be dead if we had NOT had the surgery. That is the real statistic

that counts for me.

Safe journey,

MGB 03 MAY 00

Safely on the other side!!!!

Dr. Rutledge clos.net

Self-funded company plan administered by Interactive Medical

Denied on appeal as an excluded benefit

Self Pay

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In a message dated 06/15/2000 9:29:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

SpecialAngel36@... writes:

<< I feel EXACTLY the same as you do. With all the troubles that

being an obese person causes I do not want to continue another day in

this obese form of myself. I will not tell you how many times I

didn't want to live because of being like this. This surgery has

given me the hope of living a better quality LIFE. And I will look

positively at this. Living like I am now is DEATH for me.

Love,

>>

I second that and nancy! margie SC

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 06/15/2000 9:29:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

SpecialAngel36@... writes:

<< I feel EXACTLY the same as you do. With all the troubles that

being an obese person causes I do not want to continue another day in

this obese form of myself. I will not tell you how many times I

didn't want to live because of being like this. This surgery has

given me the hope of living a better quality LIFE. And I will look

positively at this. Living like I am now is DEATH for me.

Love,

>>

I second that and nancy! margie SC

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 06/15/2000 9:29:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

SpecialAngel36@... writes:

<< I feel EXACTLY the same as you do. With all the troubles that

being an obese person causes I do not want to continue another day in

this obese form of myself. I will not tell you how many times I

didn't want to live because of being like this. This surgery has

given me the hope of living a better quality LIFE. And I will look

positively at this. Living like I am now is DEATH for me.

Love,

>>

I second that and nancy! margie SC

[Guest guest]

Georgia,

For me yes! Although my weight on my surgery date was 212 I was 242 when I

started. I am on the highest dose of snythroid, I was a diabetic with

failing kidneys because of it, I had a fatty liver, feet problems, back

pains, My Doctor suggested the surgery and told me if I did not get the

weight off I would be on dialysis in 6 months, then on a donor list. Well, I

have a 3 year old Daughter and 13 year old son. I am the main money maker in

my family, so I needed to live! this was my shot. I thought it was the

perfect answer until 's death, I cried for her and her family, I cried

for the Doc, then I cried for me. I had to pray a lot about it. I now knew

either way I could die, I know how many people were on the Kidney list. I

took my chances! I wrote good bye letters to my children, I told them what I

expected out of them, the goals and dreams I wanted for them. I told them I

was doing this for a better life and if it didn't work out I would wait for

them I! We would not be apart forever. It just felt like the right thing to

do for me!

So for me it was and is worth living for. My surgery, was 6/01/2000

Just 15 days ago. I have been on this list forever, I paid cash. Today I am

199, my blood sugar fasting is 105, I have been off all my meds since

surgery, with the exception of my thyroid meds. I no longer have to take

blood pressure medication to help my kidneys, the Doc says my liver looks

good, in just 43 lbs my feet don't hurt, I can stand up straight, I can drop

to my knees to pray without being in pain on the way up. I can play with my

kids instead of watching, I am happy and full of energy, And not all because

of the surgery but because the day I made the final decision my whole life

changed. I just knew this was my answer (I was a little to happy for the

list). I would take the few bad things that have happened since my surgery

and do them over ten fold again if I had the same results in such a short

time. this is your choice and no one but you can or should decide. God,

gave me peace about it, so I knew it was right for me!!! God Bless you all on

your journey! To me it is a miracle!

Trisha Lanman

[Guest guest]

Georgia,

For me yes! Although my weight on my surgery date was 212 I was 242 when I

started. I am on the highest dose of snythroid, I was a diabetic with

failing kidneys because of it, I had a fatty liver, feet problems, back

pains, My Doctor suggested the surgery and told me if I did not get the

weight off I would be on dialysis in 6 months, then on a donor list. Well, I

have a 3 year old Daughter and 13 year old son. I am the main money maker in

my family, so I needed to live! this was my shot. I thought it was the

perfect answer until 's death, I cried for her and her family, I cried

for the Doc, then I cried for me. I had to pray a lot about it. I now knew

either way I could die, I know how many people were on the Kidney list. I

took my chances! I wrote good bye letters to my children, I told them what I

expected out of them, the goals and dreams I wanted for them. I told them I

was doing this for a better life and if it didn't work out I would wait for

them I! We would not be apart forever. It just felt like the right thing to

do for me!

So for me it was and is worth living for. My surgery, was 6/01/2000

Just 15 days ago. I have been on this list forever, I paid cash. Today I am

199, my blood sugar fasting is 105, I have been off all my meds since

surgery, with the exception of my thyroid meds. I no longer have to take

blood pressure medication to help my kidneys, the Doc says my liver looks

good, in just 43 lbs my feet don't hurt, I can stand up straight, I can drop

to my knees to pray without being in pain on the way up. I can play with my

kids instead of watching, I am happy and full of energy, And not all because

of the surgery but because the day I made the final decision my whole life

changed. I just knew this was my answer (I was a little to happy for the

list). I would take the few bad things that have happened since my surgery

and do them over ten fold again if I had the same results in such a short

time. this is your choice and no one but you can or should decide. God,

gave me peace about it, so I knew it was right for me!!! God Bless you all on

your journey! To me it is a miracle!

Trisha Lanman

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I didn't add all the incontinence problems and mental stress that are

now gone too.

Trisha

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I didn't add all the incontinence problems and mental stress that are

now gone too.

Trisha

[Guest guest]

like I said it is a miracle for me! I don't understand it! I have not had a

headache at all since the surgery which is a first for me. The Doc doe give

you pain meds with lots of refills, I have not used them except once. When I

was sad. I think I just really needed sleep because Im as happy as a tick on

a dog (like that one)now! I took the blood pressure meds to keep pressure

off my kidneys, I test last Friday and I am not spilling proteins like I was

so My Doc here said don't take them.. I can't explain it. this surgery truly

might be the miracle it appears to be. Now if It could turn me into Barbie

before my 40 in November I would kiss the Doc's feet. I will just keep

marking my success with my endocrinologist who I see every 4 weeks, and keep

you updates. He thinks if things keep going like this he will only make

money off me every 3 months..

Trisha

[Guest guest]

like I said it is a miracle for me! I don't understand it! I have not had a

headache at all since the surgery which is a first for me. The Doc doe give

you pain meds with lots of refills, I have not used them except once. When I

was sad. I think I just really needed sleep because Im as happy as a tick on

a dog (like that one)now! I took the blood pressure meds to keep pressure

off my kidneys, I test last Friday and I am not spilling proteins like I was

so My Doc here said don't take them.. I can't explain it. this surgery truly

might be the miracle it appears to be. Now if It could turn me into Barbie

before my 40 in November I would kiss the Doc's feet. I will just keep

marking my success with my endocrinologist who I see every 4 weeks, and keep

you updates. He thinks if things keep going like this he will only make

money off me every 3 months..

Trisha

[Guest guest]

I personally feel like I am dying without it! I feel so bad daily!

Between Depression, joint pain, abdominal distress, fatigue and

shortness of breath I feel like I am not living now. There are times

that I feel like life is not worth living like this. I really do not

have a death wish but I am serious about feeling like that is my last

hope for a normal life. GEorgia

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

I feel EXACTLY the same as you do. With all the troubles that

being an obese person causes I do not want to continue another day in

this obese form of myself. I will not tell you how many times I

didn't want to live because of being like this. This surgery has

given me the hope of living a better quality LIFE. And I will look

positively at this. Living like I am now is DEATH for me.

Love,

> In a message dated 6/14/00 9:11:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> MiniGastricBypass (AT) e writes:

>

> > Since reading what happened to

> > her, the only question that keeps going in my mind is " is it

worth

> > dying for " . I have not been able to answer that question for

myself

> > yet.

>

> This is a very personal decision and I am not trying to make your

decision

> for you, but please remember one thing. Most of us have this

surgery because

> we are trying to LIVE, not die. At 367 lbs, I felt my life was

really

> slipping away from me. The quality had been gone for sometime, but

I was 43,

> the Mother of 3 little boys the wife of a wonderful, dear man. I

had the

> surgery because I wanted to LIVE. I scheduled my surgery the day

after

> died, so I knew all about it. wanted to live too.

She was

> full of life and hope. Remember the statistic we don't have is how

many of

> us would be dead if we had NOT had the surgery. That is the real

statistic

> that counts for me.

>

> Safe journey,

>

>

> MGB 03 MAY 00

> Safely on the other side!!!!

> Dr. Rutledge clos.net

> Self-funded company plan administered by Interactive Medical

> Denied on appeal as an excluded benefit

> Self Pay

[Guest guest]

Dear Georgia:

Hang in there, it gets better, I too felt like you prior to having the

MBG. I had my MBG on May 4th, 2000. I have lost 46lbs. and the joint pain,

depression, high blood pressure and inccontinence is completly gone. I

have days that I have to deal with nausea and fatigue but it is different

than the spastic colon attacks I had before surgery. I will say a prayer

for you, just keep fighting until your day comes for surgery it is well

worth it. Janice@...

Re: Is it worth dying for?

> I personally feel like I am dying without it! I feel so bad daily!

> Between Depression, joint pain, abdominal distress, fatigue and

> shortness of breath I feel like I am not living now. There are times

> that I feel like life is not worth living like this. I really do not

> have a death wish but I am serious about feeling like that is my last

> hope for a normal life. GEorgia

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Georgia:

Hang in there, it gets better, I too felt like you prior to having the

MBG. I had my MBG on May 4th, 2000. I have lost 46lbs. and the joint pain,

depression, high blood pressure and inccontinence is completly gone. I

have days that I have to deal with nausea and fatigue but it is different

than the spastic colon attacks I had before surgery. I will say a prayer

for you, just keep fighting until your day comes for surgery it is well

worth it. Janice@...

Re: Is it worth dying for?

> I personally feel like I am dying without it! I feel so bad daily!

> Between Depression, joint pain, abdominal distress, fatigue and

> shortness of breath I feel like I am not living now. There are times

> that I feel like life is not worth living like this. I really do not

> have a death wish but I am serious about feeling like that is my last

> hope for a normal life. GEorgia

>

>

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Trisha, I too am a diabetic and what I don't understand is how one can go off

all meds so quickly? Is it strictly the drastic change in diet? I also have

high blood pressure and would hope that would improve too. Also, what does one

do if they have a headache? Can they take anything for it - I know that Advil

and Aspirin are out. Joanne in Ohio

metrishal@... wrote:

> Georgia,

> For me yes! Although my weight on my surgery date was 212 I was 242 when I

> started. I am on the highest dose of snythroid, I was a diabetic with

> failing kidneys because of it, I had a fatty liver, feet problems, back

> pains, My Doctor suggested the surgery and told me if I did not get the

> weight off I would be on dialysis in 6 months, then on a donor list. Well, I

> have a 3 year old Daughter and 13 year old son. I am the main money maker in

> my family, so I needed to live! this was my shot. I thought it was the

> perfect answer until 's death, I cried for her and her family, I cried

> for the Doc, then I cried for me. I had to pray a lot about it. I now knew

> either way I could die, I know how many people were on the Kidney list. I

> took my chances! I wrote good bye letters to my children, I told them what I

> expected out of them, the goals and dreams I wanted for them. I told them I

> was doing this for a better life and if it didn't work out I would wait for

> them I! We would not be apart forever. It just felt like the right thing to

> do for me!

> So for me it was and is worth living for. My surgery, was 6/01/2000

> Just 15 days ago. I have been on this list forever, I paid cash. Today I am

> 199, my blood sugar fasting is 105, I have been off all my meds since

> surgery, with the exception of my thyroid meds. I no longer have to take

> blood pressure medication to help my kidneys, the Doc says my liver looks

> good, in just 43 lbs my feet don't hurt, I can stand up straight, I can drop

> to my knees to pray without being in pain on the way up. I can play with my

> kids instead of watching, I am happy and full of energy, And not all because

> of the surgery but because the day I made the final decision my whole life

> changed. I just knew this was my answer (I was a little to happy for the

> list). I would take the few bad things that have happened since my surgery

> and do them over ten fold again if I had the same results in such a short

> time. this is your choice and no one but you can or should decide. God,

> gave me peace about it, so I knew it was right for me!!! God Bless you all on

> your journey! To me it is a miracle!

> Trisha Lanman

>

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Trisha, I too am a diabetic and what I don't understand is how one can go off

all meds so quickly? Is it strictly the drastic change in diet? I also have

high blood pressure and would hope that would improve too. Also, what does one

do if they have a headache? Can they take anything for it - I know that Advil

and Aspirin are out. Joanne in Ohio

metrishal@... wrote:

> Georgia,

> For me yes! Although my weight on my surgery date was 212 I was 242 when I

> started. I am on the highest dose of snythroid, I was a diabetic with

> failing kidneys because of it, I had a fatty liver, feet problems, back

> pains, My Doctor suggested the surgery and told me if I did not get the

> weight off I would be on dialysis in 6 months, then on a donor list. Well, I

> have a 3 year old Daughter and 13 year old son. I am the main money maker in

> my family, so I needed to live! this was my shot. I thought it was the

> perfect answer until 's death, I cried for her and her family, I cried

> for the Doc, then I cried for me. I had to pray a lot about it. I now knew

> either way I could die, I know how many people were on the Kidney list. I

> took my chances! I wrote good bye letters to my children, I told them what I

> expected out of them, the goals and dreams I wanted for them. I told them I

> was doing this for a better life and if it didn't work out I would wait for

> them I! We would not be apart forever. It just felt like the right thing to

> do for me!

> So for me it was and is worth living for. My surgery, was 6/01/2000

> Just 15 days ago. I have been on this list forever, I paid cash. Today I am

> 199, my blood sugar fasting is 105, I have been off all my meds since

> surgery, with the exception of my thyroid meds. I no longer have to take

> blood pressure medication to help my kidneys, the Doc says my liver looks

> good, in just 43 lbs my feet don't hurt, I can stand up straight, I can drop

> to my knees to pray without being in pain on the way up. I can play with my

> kids instead of watching, I am happy and full of energy, And not all because

> of the surgery but because the day I made the final decision my whole life

> changed. I just knew this was my answer (I was a little to happy for the

> list). I would take the few bad things that have happened since my surgery

> and do them over ten fold again if I had the same results in such a short

> time. this is your choice and no one but you can or should decide. God,

> gave me peace about it, so I knew it was right for me!!! God Bless you all on

> your journey! To me it is a miracle!

> Trisha Lanman

>

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[Guest guest]

Trisha, I too am a diabetic and what I don't understand is how one can go off

all meds so quickly? Is it strictly the drastic change in diet? I also have

high blood pressure and would hope that would improve too. Also, what does one

do if they have a headache? Can they take anything for it - I know that Advil

and Aspirin are out. Joanne in Ohio

metrishal@... wrote:

> Georgia,

> For me yes! Although my weight on my surgery date was 212 I was 242 when I

> started. I am on the highest dose of snythroid, I was a diabetic with

> failing kidneys because of it, I had a fatty liver, feet problems, back

> pains, My Doctor suggested the surgery and told me if I did not get the

> weight off I would be on dialysis in 6 months, then on a donor list. Well, I

> have a 3 year old Daughter and 13 year old son. I am the main money maker in

> my family, so I needed to live! this was my shot. I thought it was the

> perfect answer until 's death, I cried for her and her family, I cried

> for the Doc, then I cried for me. I had to pray a lot about it. I now knew

> either way I could die, I know how many people were on the Kidney list. I

> took my chances! I wrote good bye letters to my children, I told them what I

> expected out of them, the goals and dreams I wanted for them. I told them I

> was doing this for a better life and if it didn't work out I would wait for

> them I! We would not be apart forever. It just felt like the right thing to

> do for me!

> So for me it was and is worth living for. My surgery, was 6/01/2000

> Just 15 days ago. I have been on this list forever, I paid cash. Today I am

> 199, my blood sugar fasting is 105, I have been off all my meds since

> surgery, with the exception of my thyroid meds. I no longer have to take

> blood pressure medication to help my kidneys, the Doc says my liver looks

> good, in just 43 lbs my feet don't hurt, I can stand up straight, I can drop

> to my knees to pray without being in pain on the way up. I can play with my

> kids instead of watching, I am happy and full of energy, And not all because

> of the surgery but because the day I made the final decision my whole life

> changed. I just knew this was my answer (I was a little to happy for the

> list). I would take the few bad things that have happened since my surgery

> and do them over ten fold again if I had the same results in such a short

> time. this is your choice and no one but you can or should decide. God,

> gave me peace about it, so I knew it was right for me!!! God Bless you all on

> your journey! To me it is a miracle!

> Trisha Lanman

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for all your support! I am sure glad to have you guys here to

talk with! GEorgia

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all your support! I am sure glad to have you guys here to

talk with! GEorgia

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all your support! I am sure glad to have you guys here to

talk with! GEorgia

[Guest guest]

I agree it is a miracle. I have pretty much decided to pay for it by

hook or crook if insurance denies me. I will first give them once

heck

of a fight but I am determined that this is the only way I will even

lost the 190 pounds I need to lost to be 165. I am sure that I will

have surgery it is a metter of where and when! I pray daily

sometimes

more than once a day for the peace, strength and dignity to be

patient! I know it is going to happen in it's own time and in it's

own way! GEorgia

[Guest guest]

I agree it is a miracle. I have pretty much decided to pay for it by

hook or crook if insurance denies me. I will first give them once

heck

of a fight but I am determined that this is the only way I will even

lost the 190 pounds I need to lost to be 165. I am sure that I will

have surgery it is a metter of where and when! I pray daily

sometimes

more than once a day for the peace, strength and dignity to be

patient! I know it is going to happen in it's own time and in it's

own way! GEorgia

[Guest guest]

Trisha! You are so funny! I would love to be a barbie by my 40th in

2

years! I think that would be a terrific goal for me! Georgia