Re: Ref: Skin-bio.com/Copper Peptides

[Guest guest]

I did a lot of research on copper peptides since they are one of few

anti-aging products that are supposed to be okay for sensitive skin.

DermaDoctor.com has written a couple of articles on the CP usage and

promotes them. Supposedly the copper is used in healing wounds and

the same process would apply to wrinkles and problem skin. Copper

supposed to be an alternative to AHA, etc, which puts it in the same

category as Kinerase or Almay's Kinetin. Its also supposed to boost

collagen, boosting skin firmness.

I used the Neutrogena Visibly Firm for about 2 months. Neutrogena's

formula is the same as Neova, and Osmotics, SkinBio competitors, but

has about half the copper, with lots of " cones " . I didn't have a

reaction to the product, but didn't see any results either, ha!

SkinBio " clinical " studies are actually sound, but they weren't

repeated in any other tests. This is another trial and error product

because none of the studies seem to specifically to include sensitive

skin types. Also, a Begeoun (sp?) of cosmeticcop.com, did not

give the copper products raving reviews. Not enough clinical evidence.

At any rate, I don't think I'm spending any more cash on the copper

until more evidence surfaces, no pun intended!.

GT

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I was looking around the skinbio.com website, and I found an

interesting blurb on the product that might be of interest of those

considering its use:

" Copper-peptides are used clinically for wound healing,

increased skin healing after laser resurfacing and chemical peels,

and for improving the success of hair transplantation. They help

stimulate the skin's regenerative processes which repair the skin's

protective outer barrier, increase new capillary formation

(angiogenesis), increase the production of collagen and elastin which

improve skin elasticity and firmness, and the increase the water-

holding proteoglycans and glycosaminoglycans (GAGs) which hold

moisture in the skin and are the only " true " moisturization of

skin. "

The part about new capillary formation (probably stimulating VEGF)

could be problematic for some of us, and it may go hand-in-hand with

new collagen formation. I know that's a double-edged sword of

products like retin-a (Tretinoin) or even IPL for some of us. New

collagen brings more blood vessels and perhaps the irritation from

these items damages old and new blood vessels alike, creating more

facial redness and inflammation. As well, if the study at Ohio State

University (I read about that in the Winter '02 rosacea review at

http://www.rosacea.org) that is supposed to test whether " whether

capillary enlargement in rosacea patients is due to the fusion of

several existing capillaries rather than the formation of new ones "

is true, could the irritation from these retin-a, copper products, or

IPL (for some of us, not all of us) fuse the capillaries?

Anyway, I think I will be very wary about trying Copper Peptide

products.

Take care,

Matija