Guest guest Posted May 17, 2002 Report Share Posted May 17, 2002 This came to me as a private email, but raises some points about the immune system. I've left the name off, but here's the message with my comments interposed: > If you are talking about rosacea being a primary immune > dysfunction, > would you also come to the conclusion that treatments that > bolster the immune system... No. The immune system is extraordinarily complicated in it's normal function, and abnormalities are even more complicated, but in general conditions such as AIDS or the Bubble Boy (if you remember the Travolta movie, or the Seinfeld episode ) represent deficiencies in the immune system, whereas autoimmune and other immune-mediated disorders (that may involve rosacea) represent inappropriate activation of the immune cascade. " Bolstering " would theoretically work for AIDS and the Bubble Boy, but obviously that's very, very difficult to do. It would do nothing for all the other immune problems. (As an aside, allergists are actually medical specialists in immunology (the specialty is called allergy & immunology), which helps explain why they only deal with classic allergies -- those are defined immunologic events, so it fit nicely into their specialty. Intolerances may share some of the same symptoms, but they don't have the same immunologic mechanisms, intolerances are a different phenomenon than allergies. It's like a broken bone caused by a car accident, or caused by a bone cancer -- the latter is treated by a cancer doctor, not an orthopedist, even though both present as broken bones.) > ...and return it to normal would be the best course of > treatment? I have spoken with several people about taking > immune26, an immune balancing product, and they said that they saw a > complete reversal withtin three months of use and that they no longer exhibit > the features of rosacea .... would this perhaps be a solution if it > were true that rosacea was primarily an immune dysfunction? I took a quick look at some of the Web sites and from what I can gather, immune26 is an egg-based protein powder obtained from chickens fed 26 different inactivated bacterial strains -- presumably the theory being that the chicken's antibody production to these 26 bacterial strains are contained in the eggs. It includes some other nutrients, but the antibodies are the big thing. Whether antibiodies from another species works in humans, whether the antibiotics survive the egg-to-powder process, whether the antibodies are present in sufficient amounts to do anything, and whether humans are likely to be exposed to just those 26 bacterial strains vs the billions of other strains -- all that aside, two facts are clear: (1) human antibodies (in gamma globulins, for example) cannot be ingested, they must be given intravenously to be effective, so I don't see how immune26 antibodies in a powdered antibody-fortified drink could ever be absorbed into the bloodstream, and (2) rosacea has nothing to do with any of the 26 bacterial strains the chickens are exposed to. Marjorie Marjorie Lazoff, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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