see it really wasn't my fault!

[Guest guest]

We weren't even invited to the deliveries in the old days!

Thanks,

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I thought I'd get modern with my second kid..and invited myself....wish I

hadn't...it was majorly gruesome...since I guess, they weren't used to having

us present! I was also on diet pills throughout that pregnancy...heavy duty

ones...only gained 11 lbs! It's amazing he lived!

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Just in case this didn't go through the first time....

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Smoking in pregnancy is dangerous for a

number of reasons. Now a new study suggests one more-children whose

mothers smoked during pregnancy may be more likely to become obese

than other youngsters.

These findings give prospective mothers one more reason to kick the

smoking habit, according to lead study author Dr. Rudiger von Kries

of Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich in Germany.

" Women at risk of becoming pregnant should stop smoking--not only to

reduce the well established risks of perinatal morbidity, sudden

infant death syndrome, childhood asthma but also--and this is new--to

reduce the risk for obesity in offspring, " von Kries told Reuters

Health.

His findings are based on an analysis of 1999-2000 data from 6,483

children whose parents--mother, father or both--completed school

entry health questionnaires in six German communities.

Overall, 638 mothers smoked during pregnancy, and their children were

twice as likely to be obese and 43% more likely to be overweight than

children of nonsmoking mothers, the investigators report in the

November 15th issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology.

A child's risk of obesity and overweight also rose with the number of

cigarettes the mother smoked during pregnancy, the researchers note.

Further, the effect of maternal smoking during pregnancy on the

children's risk of overweight and obesity was similar to the effect

of children's frequent television viewing, regular eating of snacks

while watching television and video game playing.

The association remained even after the researchers took these

factors into consideration, along with others that can influence

childhood obesity such as the parents' educational level and whether

or not the child had been breast-fed.

The association between maternal smoking during pregnancy and

childhood obesity " cannot be explained by a considerable number of

confounders, " von Kries said.

The reason for the association is unknown, but one explanation may be

that the nicotine exposure adversely affects the child's brain during

development, resulting in later problems with appetite control, the

researcher speculates.

SOURCE: American Journal of Epidemiology 2002;156:954-961.

[Guest guest]

I have two grown children. Did not begin smoking until the oldest

one was about 6 weeks old- he's normal size. Smoked like a chimney

with the second child and she's supersize. Wonder now if it wasn't

*just* the fat gene. (And before the younger ones in the group are

horrified, it was back in the day. Ya' know before they invented

television, and telephone and prolly cars were just invented and we

didn't know any better. All they told me then was that if I

continued to smoke my baby would be smaller. Good thing, I thought,

since she was almost 9 pounds. The doctor even insisted that I take

diet pills during both pregnancies. Not my choice- theirs. Unheard

of now but we just didn't know back in the dark ages.)

Alice

The Loon

RNY 12/28/00

> Just in case this didn't go through the first time....

>

> NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Smoking in pregnancy is dangerous for a

> number of reasons. Now a new study suggests one more-children whose

> mothers smoked during pregnancy may be more likely to become obese

> than other youngsters.

>

>

>

> These findings give prospective mothers one more reason to kick the

> smoking habit, according to lead study author Dr. Rudiger von Kries

> of Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich in Germany.

>

>

> " Women at risk of becoming pregnant should stop smoking--not only

to

> reduce the well established risks of perinatal morbidity, sudden

> infant death syndrome, childhood asthma but also--and this is new--

to

> reduce the risk for obesity in offspring, " von Kries told Reuters

> Health.

>

>

> His findings are based on an analysis of 1999-2000 data from 6,483

> children whose parents--mother, father or both--completed school

> entry health questionnaires in six German communities.

>

>

> Overall, 638 mothers smoked during pregnancy, and their children

were

> twice as likely to be obese and 43% more likely to be overweight

than

> children of nonsmoking mothers, the investigators report in the

> November 15th issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology.

>

>

> A child's risk of obesity and overweight also rose with the number

of

> cigarettes the mother smoked during pregnancy, the researchers

note.

>

>

> Further, the effect of maternal smoking during pregnancy on the

> children's risk of overweight and obesity was similar to the effect

> of children's frequent television viewing, regular eating of snacks

> while watching television and video game playing.

>

>

> The association remained even after the researchers took these

> factors into consideration, along with others that can influence

> childhood obesity such as the parents' educational level and

whether

> or not the child had been breast-fed.

>

>

> The association between maternal smoking during pregnancy and

> childhood obesity " cannot be explained by a considerable number of

> confounders, " von Kries said.

>

>

> The reason for the association is unknown, but one explanation may

be

> that the nicotine exposure adversely affects the child's brain

during

> development, resulting in later problems with appetite control, the

> researcher speculates.

>

>

> SOURCE: American Journal of Epidemiology 2002;156:954-961.

[Guest guest]

We weren't even invited to the deliveries in the old days!

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Re: see it really wasn't my fault!

> I have two grown children. Did not begin smoking until the oldest

> one was about 6 weeks old- he's normal size. Smoked like a chimney

> with the second child and she's supersize. Wonder now if it wasn't

> *just* the fat gene. (And before the younger ones in the group are

> horrified, it was back in the day. Ya' know before they invented

> television, and telephone and prolly cars were just invented and we

> didn't know any better. All they told me then was that if I

> continued to smoke my baby would be smaller. Good thing, I thought,

> since she was almost 9 pounds. The doctor even insisted that I take

> diet pills during both pregnancies. Not my choice- theirs. Unheard

> of now but we just didn't know back in the dark ages.)

> Alice

> The Loon

> RNY 12/28/00

>

> > Just in case this didn't go through the first time....

> >

> > NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Smoking in pregnancy is dangerous for a

> > number of reasons. Now a new study suggests one more-children whose

> > mothers smoked during pregnancy may be more likely to become obese

> > than other youngsters.

> >

> >

> >

> > These findings give prospective mothers one more reason to kick the

> > smoking habit, according to lead study author Dr. Rudiger von Kries

> > of Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich in Germany.

> >

> >

> > " Women at risk of becoming pregnant should stop smoking--not only

> to

> > reduce the well established risks of perinatal morbidity, sudden

> > infant death syndrome, childhood asthma but also--and this is new--

> to

> > reduce the risk for obesity in offspring, " von Kries told Reuters

> > Health.

> >

> >

> > His findings are based on an analysis of 1999-2000 data from 6,483

> > children whose parents--mother, father or both--completed school

> > entry health questionnaires in six German communities.

> >

> >

> > Overall, 638 mothers smoked during pregnancy, and their children

> were

> > twice as likely to be obese and 43% more likely to be overweight

> than

> > children of nonsmoking mothers, the investigators report in the

> > November 15th issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology.

> >

> >

> > A child's risk of obesity and overweight also rose with the number

> of

> > cigarettes the mother smoked during pregnancy, the researchers

> note.

> >

> >

> > Further, the effect of maternal smoking during pregnancy on the

> > children's risk of overweight and obesity was similar to the effect

> > of children's frequent television viewing, regular eating of snacks

> > while watching television and video game playing.

> >

> >

> > The association remained even after the researchers took these

> > factors into consideration, along with others that can influence

> > childhood obesity such as the parents' educational level and

> whether

> > or not the child had been breast-fed.

> >

> >

> > The association between maternal smoking during pregnancy and

> > childhood obesity " cannot be explained by a considerable number of

> > confounders, " von Kries said.

> >

> >

> > The reason for the association is unknown, but one explanation may

> be

> > that the nicotine exposure adversely affects the child's brain

> during

> > development, resulting in later problems with appetite control, the

> > researcher speculates.

> >

> >

> > SOURCE: American Journal of Epidemiology 2002;156:954-961.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Alice, we all did a lot of things back in the DARK ages that people

would be horrified at now. I used to have an occasional beer or glass of

wine. It was shortly AFTER my daughter was born that they came out and

said NO ALCOHOL during pregnancy. I'll tell you ...... THAT made me feel

AWFUL. Wondering WHAT I had unintentionally done to my daughter. Well,

she ended up normal, but with that fat gene. Nothing wrong with her

brain........except she doesn't USE it often.

Debbie in Gig Harbor

ladybostons@...

www.paws2print.com

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/21/02 6:09:09 PM Central Standard Time,

njtomato@... writes:

<< NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Smoking in pregnancy is dangerous for a

number of reasons. Now a new study suggests one more-children whose

mothers smoked during pregnancy may be more likely to become obese

than other youngsters. >>

---------------------------

Mom never touched a cigarette in her life...........so what's MY excuse?

Would second hand smoke inhaled by the pregnant mother from a cigar-addicted

spouse do it?

Carol A

[Guest guest]

I'm pretty sure that mine has brain damage!

Alice

The Loon

RNY 12/28/00

....unintentionally done to my daughter. Well, she ended up normal,

but with that fat gene. Nothing wrong with her brain........except

she doesn't USE it often.

>

> Debbie in Gig Harbor

> ladybostons@p...

> www.paws2print.com

[Guest guest]

> Alice, we all did a lot of things back in the DARK ages that people would

be horrified at now. I used to have an occasional beer or glass of wine.<<<

DARK AGES... LOL... I guess I too fit into that one (ugh) I smoked, they

said my babies would be small, they LIED! I breast fed and my doctor

actually " advised " me to have a glass of wine a couple of hours before bed

time so the " baby would sleep better... " (indicating to me now that they

KNEW the wine went to the milk that the baby got... to help them sleep

better.) Red wine was also " prescribed " to my best friend at the time who

had a colic baby to " sooth the baby's stomach spasms " (it worked) BUT my

gosh... had we known then the long term effects....!!!!

I did cut way back on my smoking (5 cigs a day, breakfast, lunch, afternoon

break, dinner and one before bed) and I didn't choose to " calm " my baby with

wine in my milk very often although I did do it on really rough days... one

glass calmed both of us!

We didn't have epidurals either -- oh a cherished procedure ~smile~ I've

attended 3 of 5 of my grandbabies births and I am simply amazed at how

different the old " natural birth Lamaze (scream till you can't anymore) that

WE did (stupid...) and the eppie births now where both Mom and baby are so

comfortable right after birth that soothing calm bonding begins right that

moment.

OH... the TOPIC -- LOL... My mom has NEVER smoked and both of her children

got the " obese " gene (as did EVERYONE in my whole family excepting one

cousin...) Both sides, obese and early heart issues... in fact, I just

turned 42 last week and if I make it through this WHOLE year without a heart

attack I will be the FIRST in my whole family history!!!! I did have a

silent heart attack before surgery but the muscle was not damaged enough to

actually have to 'count' it (38ish) but the serious heart attacks happen at

the 42 mark or less... Tune in next year to see if I make history or not

~big smile~ I sure hope I do!!!

hugz,

~denise