no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

[Guest guest]

Pat wrote:

> Ray, without veggies, how do you keep your labs looking good...and what

about fiber? thanks!

~denise asked:

I'm curios too what your 2 year labs looked like without protein

supplementing, very few veggies (you've said those things) -- what do your

labs look like from your base line pre-op and through till now? Got actual

" numbers " ? Would you mind sharing them?

thnx

~denise

[Guest guest]

I eat mostly protein, but probably only two vegetable servings a day. One

of the reasons I try to avoid potatoes as a vegetable. Just don't have the

room. I eat nuts almost every day, but I worry about not getting fiber. I

don't know how lack of veggies would affect labs?????

I started taking a fiber supplement when I was having an upset stomach. My

regular doctor actually recommended it since he thought the whole thing

through and realized I didn't eat all that much. I actually have my first

ProScore of the day with a heaping tablespoon of orange-flavored fiber

supplement from the health food store.

in Austin

RNY April 1998

no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

> Pat wrote:

> > Ray, without veggies, how do you keep your labs looking good...and what

> about fiber? thanks!

> ~denise asked:

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave! I am glad to hear someone else takes ProScore. I think it is a

great Protein drink. Thanks for the tip about the fiber. I have finally

started losing again. I have been eating high protein, low carbs, lots of

water, and 1 or 2 protein drinks a day. I lost 110 lbs, then gained twenty

back and now have lost 3 again. I really feel I am back on track, and since

I have been eating this way for 5 weeks now, I hardly have any cravings for

the carbs. Oh, once in a while, I am tempted to stop at a convenient store

and pick up a candy bar, but I am able to fight it, and it goes away. After

almost 3 years since the surgery (Feb 15, 2000), it is something I have to

work at every day. The protein is one of the keys I really believe. Have a

good day, ! Bobbie-Manchester, WA

no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

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> > Pat wrote:

> > > Ray, without veggies, how do you keep your labs looking good...and

what

> > about fiber? thanks!

> > ~denise asked:

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[Guest guest]

Hey ,

Did you fall to the floor when you thought someone was violating

Proscore100.. You know Chocolate and Orange together might actually be good..

I know.. the tongue police are on their way to get me.. and Ceep is on her

way to mentally straighten out my brain...lol

Hugs

from GA

open RNY 12/12/00

Revision 04/18/01

Revision 02/07/02

St wt.... 392

Cw.......187

Wt loss..-205

[Guest guest]

PTUI! YOU PUT ORANGE in your ProScore 100???

Oh wait, you use vanilla. Deep breath. I'm OK now..

Thanks,

Vitalady T

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no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

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> > Pat wrote:

> > > Ray, without veggies, how do you keep your labs looking good...and

what

> > about fiber? thanks!

> > ~denise asked:

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In a message dated 11/22/2002 7:19:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

terry@... writes:

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> And if you add some unsweetened cocoa powder, it tastes like one of those

> chocolate orange things that you smash on the table and eat.

MMMMMM~~~~~ sounds ummy~~~~~

Hugs,

from GA

open RNY 12/12/00

Revision 04/18/01

Revision 02/07/02

St wt.... 392

Cw.......187

Wt loss..-205

[Guest guest]

Don puts orange & chocolate together. I'm married to one. He calls it an

orange stick. Yuck.

Thanks,

Vitalady T

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Re: no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

> Hey ,

> Did you fall to the floor when you thought someone was violating

> Proscore100.. You know Chocolate and Orange together might actually be

good..

> I know.. the tongue police are on their way to get me.. and Ceep is on her

> way to mentally straighten out my brain...lol

> Hugs

>

> from GA

> open RNY 12/12/00

> Revision 04/18/01

> Revision 02/07/02

> St wt.... 392

> Cw.......187

> Wt loss..-205

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I did not see the reports this year. Both my PCP and bariatric surgeon

reviewed them and both said they were excellent. My dexascan results

from earlier this month were interpreted to be equivalent to those to be

expected from some one in their 40s. I am 57. I attribute my good labs

to religiously taking the best vitamin and mineral supplement system

there is on the market.

Ray Hooks

For WLS nutrition info, visit

http://www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com

~denise wrote:

>

> Pat wrote:

> > Ray, without veggies, how do you keep your labs looking good...and what

> about fiber? thanks!

> ~denise asked:

> I'm curios too what your 2 year labs looked like without protein

> supplementing, very few veggies (you've said those things) -- what do your

> labs look like from your base line pre-op and through till now? Got actual

> " numbers " ? Would you mind sharing them?

> thnx

> ~denise

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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[Guest guest]

There are one or two of us that use something other than chocolate

EVERY time, ya' know.

Alice

The Loon

RNY 12/28/00

> PTUI! YOU PUT ORANGE in your ProScore 100???

>

> Oh wait, you use vanilla. Deep breath. I'm OK now..

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> Vitalady T

> www.vitalady.com

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/22/02 4:33:20 PM Central Standard Time,

Gigi8083@... writes:

<< Hey ,

Did you fall to the floor when you thought someone was violating

Proscore100.. You know Chocolate and Orange together might actually be

good..

I know.. the tongue police are on their way to get me.. and Ceep is on her

way to mentally straighten out my brain...lol >>

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U and I can hide out from then tongue cops together. One of the heavenliest

tastes in the world is those dark-chocolate coated candies with orange jelly

inside. OOOOOh YUM ! ! !

Carol A

[Guest guest]

And if you add some unsweetened cocoa powder, it tastes like one of those

chocolate orange things that you smash on the table and eat.

------------------------------------------------

Terry Mayers

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Re: no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

Don puts orange & chocolate together. I'm married to one. He calls it an

orange stick. Yuck.

Thanks,

Vitalady T

www.vitalady.com

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Re: no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

> Hey ,

> Did you fall to the floor when you thought someone was violating

> Proscore100.. You know Chocolate and Orange together might actually be

good..

> I know.. the tongue police are on their way to get me.. and Ceep is on her

> way to mentally straighten out my brain...lol

> Hugs

>

> from GA

> open RNY 12/12/00

> Revision 04/18/01

> Revision 02/07/02

> St wt.... 392

> Cw.......187

> Wt loss..-205

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/22/02 6:07:28 PM Central Standard Time,

rhooks@... writes:

<< I did not see the reports this year. Both my PCP and bariatric surgeon

reviewed them and both said they were excellent. My dexascan results

from earlier this month were interpreted to be equivalent to those to be

expected from some one in their 40s. I am 57. I attribute my good labs

to religiously taking the best vitamin and mineral supplement system

there is on the market.

>>

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Well, I guess THAT plug was to be expected......

Carol A

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/22/02 6:21:43 PM Central Standard Time,

terry@... writes:

<< And if you add some unsweetened cocoa powder, it tastes like one of those

chocolate orange things that you smash on the table and eat. >>

------------------------------

Yeah, those are good, IF u get the dark choc and not the milk choc. But not

as good as the dark-chocolate covered orange-flavored-jelly-inside candies.

Carol A

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/22/02 3:27:10 PM Central Standard Time,

vitalady@... writes:

<< PTUI! YOU PUT ORANGE in your ProScore 100??? >>

Hey , don't knock it until you've tried it! I frequently use diet

orange soda and CHOCOLATE ProScore 100 to make a shake. It is FANTASTIC!!!

If you've ever eaten one of those chocolate oranges, it's sort of like that.

BLISS!

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

10/06/02 - 167 lbs.

11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

5'10 "

[Guest guest]

They make those chocolate covered jellies sugar free you know? I love them

too, so I try to stay away from them because of what the s/f candy does to

me. Sometimes the side effects are just NOT worth the candy.

------------------------------------------------

Terry Mayers

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http://www.5dollarhosting.com

(877)-838-HOST /

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Re: no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

In a message dated 11/22/02 6:21:43 PM Central Standard Time,

terry@... writes:

<< And if you add some unsweetened cocoa powder, it tastes like one of those

chocolate orange things that you smash on the table and eat. >>

------------------------------

Yeah, those are good, IF u get the dark choc and not the milk choc. But not

as good as the dark-chocolate covered orange-flavored-jelly-inside candies.

Carol A

[Guest guest]

Dear Randy and all,

I believe what Judy was aiming at was Ray's statement that I

asterisked below, not his freedom to speak about protein. Remember

what we just came through when we were asked not to hawk our

personal products in this forum? And that is just what I think she

thought he was doing by bragging that his current state of health

(sans protein supps) was due only to religiously taking the

bariatricsupplements.com products that follow his signature.

Please correct me if I am wrong, the difference seems to be his

moving from a BTDT perspective to one of specific product

recommendation/exclusion for our health.

Jeanne in Friend, NE :-)

> Ray, the fact that you continue to push the limits of

> the guidelines of this group

> ____________________________________________________

> WHAT???!!!!

> How is he pushing the limits of the guidelines of the group?

****I attribute my good labs to religiously taking the best vitamin

and mineral supplement system there is on the market.****

[Guest guest]

****I attribute my good labs to religiously taking the best vitamin

and mineral supplement system there is on the market.****

______________________________________________________

Oh I didn't even pay attention to that..... Sorry if I mistakenly jumped to

a conclusion... If he's tryin to " hawk his wears " he's not doin' a very good

job at it, cause I didn't even notice it....

BTW: I attribute my good labs to my protein shakes, calcium citrate powder,

One Source Chewable's and lot's of Diet Dr. Pepper.....

Roll tide Roll.

Randy

rlogle@...

www.geocities.com/rogle32/

AIM: rlogleeln

Open RNY: Sept. 26, 2001: 204 lbs gone.

Daddy to Doogun, Jasper, and Zoe.

Lord, Please help me to become the Person

my Dog's think I am.

Re: no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

> Dear Randy and all,

>

> I believe what Judy was aiming at was Ray's statement that I

> asterisked below, not his freedom to speak about protein. Remember

> what we just came through when we were asked not to hawk our

> personal products in this forum? And that is just what I think she

> thought he was doing by bragging that his current state of health

> (sans protein supps) was due only to religiously taking the

> bariatricsupplements.com products that follow his signature.

>

> Please correct me if I am wrong, the difference seems to be his

> moving from a BTDT perspective to one of specific product

> recommendation/exclusion for our health.

>

> Jeanne in Friend, NE :-)

>

>

>

> > Ray, the fact that you continue to push the limits of

> > the guidelines of this group

> > ____________________________________________________

> > WHAT???!!!!

> > How is he pushing the limits of the guidelines of the group?

>

> ****I attribute my good labs to religiously taking the best vitamin

> and mineral supplement system there is on the market.****

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ray

I have a question for you.. since you state that you dont need protein

supplementation, or drink water.. how in the world do you get your digestive

system to function even minutely?

Hugs,

from GA

open RNY 12/12/00

Revision 04/18/01

Revision 02/07/02

St wt.... 392

Cw.......187

Wt loss..-205

[Guest guest]

I tried it by accident. I have my little routine, water in this hand, ice

in this hand, Don's orange soda here, and I put the water in my PS100, then

ice, then put it in the glass, then add Don's van to my choc mixing cup, add

pop & go. I do it many times a day.

One time, phone rang or something and I put the orange in my PS100 choc

!!!!!!!!! Nasty! Ewww, Yuckers! Save me!

I made Don drink it. He thought it not half bad. LOL! And that's why he

likes his creamsicle made in my chocolate leavings.

Thanks,

Vitalady T

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Re: no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

> In a message dated 11/22/02 3:27:10 PM Central Standard Time,

> vitalady@... writes:

>

> << PTUI! YOU PUT ORANGE in your ProScore 100??? >>

>

> Hey , don't knock it until you've tried it! I frequently use diet

> orange soda and CHOCOLATE ProScore 100 to make a shake. It is

FANTASTIC!!!

> If you've ever eaten one of those chocolate oranges, it's sort of like

that.

> BLISS!

>

> Beth

> Houston, TX

> VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> 10/06/02 - 167 lbs.

> 11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

> 5'10 "

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/23/02 7:02:24 AM Central Standard Time,

terry@... writes:

<< They make those chocolate covered jellies sugar free you know? I love them

too, so I try to stay away from them because of what the s/f candy does to

me. Sometimes the side effects are just NOT worth the candy >>

----------------------------

Uh, oh. They must have sorbitol or maltitol or some such as sweeteners. They

did a real number on me too, back in '89 when I quit smoking and lived of s/f

candy for awhile. But WHERE do u find the s/f ones? I can't even find the

REAL ones anymore.

Carol A

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/23/02 1:46:56 PM Central Standard Time,

rlogle@... writes:

<< WHAT???!!!!

How is he pushing the limits of the guidelines of the group? Because it's a

" not so popular " opinion? Because it's somethin' that you, or other

moderators don't agree with? >>

------------------------------

One of the guidelines of the group is not to push, hype, advertise, etc. any

particular product over another. He pushes BSSI. And consistently tries to

discredit the products (and opinions) of others. I believe that is probably

why.

Carol A