] Re: no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

[Guest guest]

See I for one do not feel he is hawking anything. No different than a

zillion other sig lines I see vitalady for one .. and they all talk about

what works for them .. I believe Ray was talking as a personal reflection to

himself and not out to " hawk " anything.

If I'm interested in his products I'd contact him. If I'm not I won't.

I could say I owe it all to Walmart's vitamins (which Idon't use by th way)

would I be accused of promoting Walmart say over Target?

I for one enjoy Ray's and everyone elses points of view. It makes me realize

we are all different.. Everyone is different and has a different program and

I guess time will tell how we all are doing.

Lyssa

open rny 6/22/99

> ****I attribute my good labs to religiously taking the best vitamin

> and mineral supplement system there is on the market.****

> ______________________________________________________

> Oh I didn't even pay attention to that..... Sorry if I mistakenly jumped

to

> a conclusion... If he's tryin to " hawk his wears " he's not doin' a very

good

> job at it, cause I didn't even notice it....

> BTW: I attribute my good labs to my protein shakes, calcium citrate

powder,

> One Source Chewable's and lot's of Diet Dr. Pepper.....

> Roll tide Roll.

> Randy> ----- Original Message -----

> > > Dear Randy and all,

> >

> > I believe what Judy was aiming at was Ray's statement that I

> > asterisked below, not his freedom to speak about protein. Remember

> > what we just came through when we were asked not to hawk our

> > personal products in this forum? And that is just what I think she

> > thought he was doing by bragging that his current state of health

> > (sans protein supps) was due only to religiously taking the

> > bariatricsupplements.com products that follow his signature.

> >

> > Please correct me if I am wrong, the difference seems to be his

> > moving from a BTDT perspective to one of specific product

> > recommendation/exclusion for our health.

> >

> > Jeanne in Friend, NE :-)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/24/02 7:34:40 AM Central Standard Time,

lyssa.is@... writes:

<< See I for one do not feel he is hawking anything. No different than a

zillion other sig lines I see vitalady for one .. and they all talk about

what works for them .. >>

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See, I am all for expressing opinions and saying what works for you. I am not

for flaming and bashing and hurling insults and innuendos and generally

trying to destroy anyone's reputation (and for what reason)?? I have defended

Ray's right to say what he thinks many times in the past. I think it's very

important to keep this as an open forum. BUT I DON'T think that right

includes defaming and degrading others. Show me one post where Vitalady has

resorted to those kinds of tactics. That is probably why people are so

sensitive to the issue of Ray " hawking " his wares. Nor have I ever seen or

heard Vitalady say that HER stuff is the best in the world or the only thing

that works. What I have seen is her advice to rely on YOUR lab results and do

what works for YOU. JMHO, but I think this type of inflammatory posting

should be banned from this list.

Carol A

[Guest guest]

I wasn't implying she did. I was merely talking about a url address under

someone's name ... I think you missed what I was trying to say.

I said nothing to reflect on vitalady herself. I certainly did not put her

down, defame or degrade so I'm not quite sure what you are talking about.

Peace

Lyssa

Re: ] Re: no protein, few veggies... labs... (ray)

> In a message dated 11/24/02 7:34:40 AM Central Standard Time,

> lyssa.is@... writes:

>

> << See I for one do not feel he is hawking anything. No different than a

> zillion other sig lines I see vitalady for one .. and they all talk about

> what works for them .. >>

> -----------------------------

>

> See, I am all for expressing opinions and saying what works for you. I am

not

> for flaming and bashing and hurling insults and innuendos and generally

> trying to destroy anyone's reputation (and for what reason)?? I have

defended

> Ray's right to say what he thinks many times in the past. I think it's

very

> important to keep this as an open forum. BUT I DON'T think that right

> includes defaming and degrading others. Show me one post where Vitalady

has

> resorted to those kinds of tactics. That is probably why people are so

> sensitive to the issue of Ray " hawking " his wares. Nor have I ever seen or

> heard Vitalady say that HER stuff is the best in the world or the only

thing

> that works. What I have seen is her advice to rely on YOUR lab results and

do

> what works for YOU. JMHO, but I think this type of inflammatory posting

> should be banned from this list.

>

> Carol A