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ie,

welcome to the group. What kind of work do you do for the

American Red Cross? I use to work for FEMA and loved working with the

Red Cross.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:03:53 -0400 writes:

> Hello all,

> I have lurked around long enough. I guess I will introduce myself.

> My name is ie, I am 36, Live in Portland, Oregon

> Work at the American Red Cross

> I am a year and seven months post op and have lost 120 lbs. and 12

> pant sizes

> I am at 160 lbs now and maintaining that weight.

> I am looking forward to being part of this group.

> Have a great day !!!

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> ie Grunberg

> American Red Cross

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> For information or to make an appointment to donate Blood call:

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ie,

welcome to the group. What kind of work do you do for the

American Red Cross? I use to work for FEMA and loved working with the

Red Cross.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:03:53 -0400 writes:

> Hello all,

> I have lurked around long enough. I guess I will introduce myself.

> My name is ie, I am 36, Live in Portland, Oregon

> Work at the American Red Cross

> I am a year and seven months post op and have lost 120 lbs. and 12

> pant sizes

> I am at 160 lbs now and maintaining that weight.

> I am looking forward to being part of this group.

> Have a great day !!!

>

> ie Grunberg

> American Red Cross

> Pacific Northwest Regional Blood Services

> Equipment Management Services

> * Phone 503 528-5495 Fax:

> * Email: grunbergs@...

> For information or to make an appointment to donate Blood call:

> 1-800-GIVE-LIFE

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Chia or Chai?? -UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 7 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 5 pills a dayTo: BTVC-SCD From: tigermoon@...Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:09:14 +0000Subject: my introduction

Hello,

I am new to this group. I have had IBS off and on throughout most of my life. It seems to be triggered by stress and I'm guessing that's what triggered my latest bout of chronic diarrhea, which has been nonstop for nearly a month.

I've just been reading the SCD food lists and most of it will be easy to adapt to. I am already gluten free, and have now stopped eating millet and quinoa, and rice cakes. I stopped cow dairy a long time ago except for ghee. I have made my own goat yogurt for many years, but now I am starting to let it work for 24 hours. I need to get a good batch of compliant microorganisms.

My question right now is about chia seeds, which I do not see on the food lists. I grind them very fine and mix with my yogurt. Does anyone know if these are legal on the diet?

thanks for being here!

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>That's Chia seeds; tiny little seeds the size of poppy seeds. They are

sources of essential fatty acids and add some protein to fruit smoothies. I use

them since flax is not legal. But I don't see them listed anywhere.

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> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:09:14 +0000

> Subject: my introduction

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> Hello,

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> I am new to this group. I have had IBS off and on throughout most of my life.

It seems to be triggered by stress and I'm guessing that's what triggered my

latest bout of chronic diarrhea, which has been nonstop for nearly a month.

>

> I've just been reading the SCD food lists and most of it will be easy to adapt

to. I am already gluten free, and have now stopped eating millet and quinoa,

and rice cakes. I stopped cow dairy a long time ago except for ghee. I have

made my own goat yogurt for many years, but now I am starting to let it work for

24 hours. I need to get a good batch of compliant microorganisms.

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> My question right now is about chia seeds, which I do not see on the food

lists. I grind them very fine and mix with my yogurt. Does anyone know if

these are legal on the diet?

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> thanks for being here!

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That's Chia seeds; tiny little seeds the size of poppy seeds. They are sources of essential fatty acids and add some protein to fruit smoothies. I use them since flax is not legal. But I don't see them listed anywhere.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BTVC-SCD/message/12654At 04:11 PM 11/10/2008, you wrote:1) Are Chia seeds ok?No -- most seeds are heavy in lignins. Mara

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Lignin is found in Brazil nuts, carrots, green beans, peaches, peas,

strawberries, and tomatoes as well. Why are they okay?

Stacey

> > 1) Are Chia seeds ok?

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> No -- most seeds are heavy in lignins.

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I have no clue. I was quoting Marilyn - thus the link I provided which is cut

out of your

response - and she is away at some filk thingy.

Mara

> Lignin is found in Brazil nuts, carrots, green beans, peaches, peas,

strawberries, and tomatoes as well. Why are they okay?

> Stacey

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>>> 1) Are Chia seeds ok?

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>> No -- most seeds are heavy in lignins.

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> I have no clue. I was quoting Marilyn - thus the link I provided which > is cut out of your> response - and she is away at some filk thingy.>> Mara>> >>> Lignin is found in Brazil nuts, carrots, green beans, peaches, peas, >> strawberries, and tomatoes as well. Why are they okay?>> StaceyI could be wrong. Is it necessarily lignins themselves (or alone) that are a problem, or the actual seeds (for a lot of people), because in general seeds don't break down easily and are thus are hard to digest. Though, admittedly, that could be because of the lignins! Lignins are what make vegetables/fruits crunchy, what gives them fiber, and fiber itself is not digestible (which doesn't automatically mean it's bad). High fiber is obviously a problem for some people here and not for others.If the seeds are ground is that a problem? Not as much, I would think.  n>>>> >>>> 1) Are Chia seeds ok?>>>>>> No -- most seeds are heavy in lignins.-- Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addictionby n Van Tilwww.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere

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I was hoping that grinding the chia seeds very fine would make them ok, because

I thought I remembered something about flax seeds being irritating to the gut

due to the hard shell. What is it about lignan that is bad? Feeds the

bacteria??

> >>>> 1) Are Chia seeds ok?

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> >>> No -- most seeds are heavy in lignins.

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> Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:

> Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My

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> by n Van Til

> www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S.,

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http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/lignins.htmElaine writes:Grinding lignin and tough stuff does not prevent certain microroganisms thanking you for chewing up their nutrition. The little buggers then respond by eating faster and making more babies and toxins.From the LI listserveI was hoping that grinding the chia seeds very fine would make them ok, because I thought I remembered something about flax seeds being irritating to the gut due to the hard shell. What is it about lignan that is bad? Feeds the bacteria??
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More:http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/flax_seed_and_flax_seed_oil.htmFlax seed is illegal. From Elaine: "lignin is found when the whole seed (and its stiff coat) are ground up. I think it is harmful for people just starting out on SCD. I think some bacteria feast nicely on lignin - it is tough like bark."Flax seed oil is legal. From Elaine: "The oil itself, in very small amounts, (and one will have to reduce the prescribed dose by at least 50%) may be helpful." On SCD, without the groundup almonds, I would highly doubt if one would need a supplement of these oils. The huge amount of supplements being pushed are questionable as to the fact that they may be doing as much harm as possible good.I was hoping that grinding the chia seeds very fine would make them ok, because I thought I remembered something about flax seeds being irritating to the gut due to the hard shell. What is it about lignan that is bad? Feeds the bacteria??

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At 05:15 PM 1/10/2010, you wrote:

My question right now is about

chia seeds, which I do not see on the food lists. I grind them very fine

and mix with my yogurt. Does anyone know if these are legal on the

diet?

Seeds of any kind can be quite advanced, and it's not recommended that

you use them at the beginning of the diet.

All seeds are heavy in lignins which are difficult for us to process.

If you are looking for Omega 3s, go with salmon oil. Flax OIL can be

used, but you do have to be careful with it as it goes rancid easily.

(Get the refrigerated kind.... Barleans is a good one.)

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Marilyn

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Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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At 11:15 AM 1/11/2010, you wrote:

Lignin is found in Brazil nuts,

carrots, green beans, peaches, peas, strawberries, and tomatoes as well.

Why are they okay?

It depends on the type of the lignins and how much. Just back from

Atlanta, and too tired to research much this evening, but I wouldn't be

surprised if the lignins in strawberries are due to the seeds and in

tomatoes due to the seeds and the skins.

We de-seed and cook vegetables and fruits when we are first on the diet.

So why would adding seeds like chia seeds be legal?

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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