Re: Digest Number 1774

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In a message dated 7/27/00 5:26:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com writes:

> To date I have

> lost a total of 17 pounds. Pretty good, huh?

, AMAZING!!! Sounds like you got the " nurse's cut " instead of the

" lawyer's cut! "

Safe journey,

MGB 03 MAY 00

Safely on the other side!!!!

Dr. Rutledge clos.net

Self-funded company plan administered by Interactive Medical

Denied on appeal as an excluded benefit

Self Pay

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I have studied Atkins and Protein Power for a year. The book, Protein Power,

will show you how to figure your exact protein needs to fit your particular

body. I am 5'6 " , 50, and of medium frame and need 76 grams a day. What I do

not know is after weight loss surgery, how much protein is actually

malabsorbed by food. I have read over the last year many posts from people

who have perfect labs without protein shakes and also from those who had bad

labs without the protein shakes. I was trying to gather my own data to try

to figure out if it was just the distals who lacked protein malabsorption but

what I found out was there was no rhyme or reason to proximals, medials or

distals in individual protein lab results with or without protein shakes.

And I think this is due to the fact that everybody's diet is different....you

would have to take a group of proximals, put them on a particular diet with a

certain amount of food protein and no shakes, then six months later compare

labs.....then do the same for medials and distals. There have been no

studies like this done. I asked so many people who had the surgery two years

and longer out and still received mixed reviews about protein supplements.

There were people who did no protein shakes and were fine and those who had

awful labs and had to do the shakes. So, after all the asking and research,

I find out nothing more than what i started out asking. I ask my doctor and

he said he has done over 1500 medials over the last 15 years and never

recommended shakes and still claims we don't need them....but, who knows? I

don't know how many patients he kept up with their labs and personal diets.

There are no controlled studies about this that I have heard of. Since I

don't have any proof one way or the other, I figured I would drink 2 shakes

a day. That gives me 60 grams of protein from the shakes and I get lots of

food protein, maybe 70 minimum a day. So I figure even if I were to

malabsorb half of my protein, I would still be covered. I started back on

Atkins to control my appetite, taking my vits and I guess all I can do is

have my labs taken once a year on my own as my surgeon now says that they are

not necessary until you feel symptomatic...so I have to figure on doing what

is best for me based on ongoing labs because there just isn't enough wide

based data to tell me differently. But, I really do enjoy the information

Ray provides. I think we should all be able to express our knowledge and

opinions because it helps us to learn. Thanks, Pat

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My insurance paid soley based on my weight also. I am perfectly healthy

other than weighing 300 pounds on a 5'5 " frame. It took me 2 weeks to get

approved. I think it is sad how many people can get denied and have alot worse

things than myself. There should be something that can be done---CIndy

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My insurance paid soley based on my weight also. I am perfectly healthy

other than weighing 300 pounds on a 5'5 " frame. It took me 2 weeks to get

approved. I think it is sad how many people can get denied and have alot worse

things than myself. There should be something that can be done---CIndy