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Barb B. here.

I have suffered from hypoglycemia both pre-op and post-op. It went away the

first year post-op and now it is back.

All I can share is what works for me.

Low carbs, high protein. Protein snacks.

I eat 5-6 times/day.

3 meals/3 snacks.

I abstain from breads & bread products.

I abstain from simple carbs.

Avoid sugar.

Fruit: I eat grapes (no skins) and apple & pear. Melons. That is it. I cannot

drink juice --even in a reaction. My doc years ago told me that protein will

carry the blood sugar...where Orange juice may pick me up really fast, but it

will drop me down just as fast, or faster. Ker-plunk!

So, protein really is the key for me.

>

> >I know there are many, many of us who have (or are still) or are just

> starting to suffer with this. Whether it IS or is called late dumping

> (may or may not be the same thing) or whether it's a blood sugar plummet

> off a cliff, I've had 'em, and I call it misery. Would those who know a

> little about it please chime in? My own attacks go like so:......

> >>>>>

>

> every type doc [surgeon, internist, endo, gp, np] has told me complex

> carbs - like wheat crackers and cheese.

> when I start the hand shaking thing I know its low blood sugar vs.

> dumping. with dumping I have that overall yuck feeling, could pass out

> maybe, but no hand shaking. I learned the difference over the years. also

> the l.b.s. can happen anytime but typically 2hr. after a meal for me -

> usually an all protein meal. of course with the dumping its usually carbs,

> no protein.

> >>sue

>

Barb B.

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My wife is a life long Type I diabetic. She is no longer able to tell

when she is going into a low blood sugar state. I have to watch her

constantly because she just forgets to eat or is too tired to fix

something. During one of the many EMS trips to our house, a technician

suggested peanut butter on a cracker as a good food to bring up the

sugar level. We have been doing this for a year and it has made a big

difference in reducing her low blood sugar incidents.

Ray Hooks

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kateseidel@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 11/25/2002 7:31:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> 71160@... writes:

>

> > Regina,

> > Sugar is ABSOLUTELY! the WORST thing you can have when you are

> > hypoglycemic.

> >

> I know that sugar is the enemy of hypoglycemia - but in the middle of an

> episode, it is really the only that works with enough speed to get it under

> control. I'm not talking about feeling bad or queasy, I'm talking turning

> white, sweating, shaking, clammy hands, followed quickly by dizziness,

> disorientation and the loss of ability to think or speak clearly.

>

> Usually, following the frequent, small, high protein meals prevents an

> episode.

>

> Kate

>

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Okay...I will do that! Seems I read a book about 20 years ago on

hyperinsulinemia..and the word hypoadrenocorticism pops into my mind at the

same time. Don't know why...could be totally unrelated...but these terms

have a way of clumping themselves together in my mind. I've been running a

very low blood pressure also. I will make the phone call tomorrow to the

endo. My T4 levels are running low too...so something is definitely amiss

and needs addressing. I just so much hate going in and being treated like I

am making it all up. I have a bad taste in my mouth about

endocrinologists...and I guess it's because they saw me before as a fat

person..and refused to see beyond my gluttony. Fact was, I never was a

glutton..and that is what is scaring me to death right now. I'm not

eating...basically doing my protein shakes and laying on a pound a day for

the past 6 days. At this rate...in 6 mos, I will have all my weight back on.

This is scarey stuff. No one EVER believes you. I even disbelieve it. I

asked my hubby if any food is missing...in the event I am having some sort of

black out...and eating myself into oblivion unbeknownst to myself....isn't

that just sick? He said..absolutely NOT! He shops and stocks the

kitchen..and knows what's there and what isn't. So...I'm not having black

outs...I'm not stuffing my face...but I'm gaining. Might as well get my " I'm

a Pig " sign out and dust it back off and put it around my neck and wear it

proudly like I used to...sheesh! You can tell, I'm down on myself

today...mostly frustrated by all this. I'm not even going to bother with the

" kick me " sign for my back side..since I'm doing a good enough job of that

myself. UGH!

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What is being described may be hyperinsulinemia. I don't know enough of the

> details, but you should see an endocrinologist and have insulin levels drawn

> as a starting point. I may be just causing more questions than answers,

> but it isn't diabetes (sugar) related, but insulin related.

> doc carolyn - just my opinion, of course

> wishing I could cure myself of whatever I have right now.

>

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In a message dated 11/26/02 5:42:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

>

> > Hubby suggested that maybe the piece of PB&J toast I'm having during the

> day is the " cause. " Come on now...give me a break! Aren't we supposed

> to

> have " some " solid food?? >>

> --------------------------------

> pb toast is so yummy going down but about 2hr. later the carb dump is

> brutal - I have had it wake me from a sound sleep its so bad!

> eat the pb on wheat crackers or alone.

> sue

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What would be the difference between a wheat cracker and whole wheat bread? I

also get the lowest sugar pnut butter available. I was talking about weight

gain more than blood sugar drops or dumping. I've never had a dumping

problem from it. But weight is beginning to pile on and I can't blame one

piece of toast in a day for that! Ah Well.

J.

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> sugar free smuckers. Darned if my bod isn't sucking it up and laying it

on

> as fat!!! What to do, what to do??? Fortunately, I've only been having

one

> of these " attacks " a day...I started taking chromium picolinate...and my

high

> spikes seem to have leveled out...but I'm still going way low. Does

insulin

> create fat all by itself? I'm doing shakes with water and ice every 2

hours

> to try and keep level...but this has just started in the past month.

Makes

> me furious, because I know no one will believe I'm not stuffing my face.

I could've written this. Same thing has been happening to me (2 1/2 years

out). I started putting on weight again a little over 2 years out, and am

back up 40 pounds. Out of 110 lost, and needing to lose more than 200.

Terrified. Doesn't even begin to describe it. Had my labs, protein is

low - need to get back up to 4 or 5 protein shakes a day (most of my food is

protein, proximal RNY) - I had tried cutting back (calories), and then went

back to 3 when I started having DAILY sugar crashes.

No one believes I'm not doing what I'm supposed to.

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I was attacked in the grocery store, managed to stumble over to the

pharmacy, interrupt the man while he was talking to someone else--I knew I

was going down. I ate the glucose tablets (not bad, but not good), but I

could not open them or pay for them until I stabilized. Miserable.

Peanut butter on cracker or finger woulda been better, but not only could I

not have figured out where it was, I doubt I coulda gotten it open, or

explained why I was eating THEIR PB in their store without paying.

***********************************************************************

Just caught the tail end of a blurb on the news tonight about PB being GREAT

for diabetes....hmmmm all blood sugar related right? Hope there is and

article in the paper tomorrow about it. I think there IS something to the PB

thingy.

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> I know that sugar is the enemy of hypoglycemia - but in the middle of an

> episode, it is really the only that works with enough speed to get it

under

> control.

complex carbs will nip it in the bud quickly also - does for me anyhow.

although I don't think I've ever tried sugar to compare the speed as I don't

keep much sugar items in the house [except when the kids are home from

college]

sue

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What is being described may be hyperinsulinemia. I don't know enough of the

details, but you should see an endocrinologist and have insulin levels drawn as

a starting point. I may be just causing more questions than answers, but it

isn't diabetes (sugar) related, but insulin related.

doc carolyn - just my opinion, of course

wishing I could cure myself of whatever I have right now.

Re: Reactive hypoglycemia

If it's late dumping...I'd like to know from what. Misery is putting it

mildly! My BS has been spiking upwards of 250 and dropping way low inside an

hour causing these same symptoms...Blood tests show no diabetes. I am a

strict no sugar person...even watching for hidden sugars. I even had that

precipitous drop in an hour while I chugged a protein shake...PB&J sugar free

of course...seems to be my cure of choice...or what I crave at these times.

I limit myself to one slice of bread...slather on the PB with a light bit of

sugar free smuckers. Darned if my bod isn't sucking it up and laying it on

as fat!!! What to do, what to do??? Fortunately, I've only been having one

of these " attacks " a day...I started taking chromium picolinate...and my high

spikes seem to have leveled out...but I'm still going way low. Does insulin

create fat all by itself? I'm doing shakes with water and ice every 2 hours

to try and keep level...but this has just started in the past month. Makes

me furious, because I know no one will believe I'm not stuffing my face.

Hubby suggested that maybe the piece of PB&J toast I'm having during the day

is the " cause. " Come on now...give me a break! Aren't we supposed to have

" some " solid food?? I've put on 5 lbs from air....believe me! Impossible?

I agree....but I can't argue with the scale. If only I could enjoy doing

what most people do to gain. I am as straight as an arrow....but am fighting

this blood sugar thing with all I have. Hopefully the chromium will settle

it once and for all...and maybe it is all just temporary? If they call it

reactive hypoglycemia....what is it reacting to to cause it? I'm befuddled!

Seems the blood sugar and the weight gain all came around the same time. I

was dx'd with diabetes right before surgery...so never did get on medication

for it...and was fine after surgery. I'm 2 1/2 years post now...and having

this happen is really confusing me. If anyone has any good answers...I'm all

ears...or eyes...or whatever. Let's hope there is a statute of

limitations...and hope it isn't 7.5 years!! I will have totally regained all

my weight by then!!

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>

> I know there are many, many of us who have (or are still) or are just

> starting to suffer with this. Whether it IS or is called late dumping (may

> or may not be the same thing) or whether it's a blood sugar plummet off a

> cliff, I've had 'em, and I call it misery.

>

> Would those who know a little about it please chime in? My own attacks go

> like so:

> standing there minding my own business, hands go cold, mouth goes dry,

> knees buckle and I crawl into kitchen. TODAY, I throw together &by than

> hands are shaking violently, lights are flashing in front of eyes) a PBJ,

> fast, and start eating ASAP. That seems to have arrested a few in

> progress.

>

> Eating or drinking protein just before or during, using sugar to stop it

> (even mixing some up in a glass to drink!)--nothing stops it like PBJ.

> That's 2 sides PB, light film of J on trashy white bread. LOL!

>

> Anyone else have any better recipe to snap out of it before hitting the

> floor? Have done the blood a coupla times, but my glucomter only says

> : " LO " under 52. I KNEW it was low, sheesh. But every other time I've

> tried it, my brain was too intermittent to remember how to make it work.

> Scary.

>

> OK, and here's another weird thing. I haven't had a debilitating one since

> maybe last spring. Is there a 7.5 yr statute of limitations on this?

>

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In a message dated 11/26/02 7:00:31 AM Central Standard Time,

frwhlngrl@... writes:

<< I DO NOT do sugar. I eat more protein than anything else in my diet

because I've always known I needed more. >>

---------------------------

As I wondered in an earlier post, maybe " we " just can't handle ANY carbs at

certain times, even good carbs (complex, low-glycemic value) ?? There's also

the thought that too much of ANYthing, (overeating), even protein, turns to

glucose in your body. I remember just reading that a couple of days ago.

Anyone observed any episodes that might go along with this thinking?

Carol A

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>>>> On my last blood test, my protein was at 6.7 with the normal range

being 1.6-6.9. Any ideas?<<<<<<

Dawn,

You might check your lab values on this. Normal total serum protein values

don't usually run that low. I would guess mid to upper 6's to mid 7's depending

on the lab. With a 6.7 being in the low normal range. Albumin usually is in

the upper 3's to 5.

doc carolyn (just my opinion, of course)

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My episodes sure dont have a pattern.. My worse episode so far was about 30

min after a protein shake, and a small meal... I have never felt so out of

control.. couldnt even tell my coworker what was wrong.. She could look at

me, and knew that something was wrong. She is diabetic and suspected that I

was having some type insulin reaction. She later told me that she had

regretted not having her glucometer on her that day.. as she would/ve checked

my blood glucose levels immediately. She did go with me to the break room and

insisted I get a regular soda.. I also had a couple peanut butter crackers ,

and immediately felt better.. I , of course, didnt drink an entire soda or

eat an entire package of peanut butter crackers.. but the pb seemed to work

the fastest of anything so far.

My internist is monitoring these episodes and if they continue, she says I

will be referred to an endocrinologist. However, if this is the norm for us

at 2 years, why waste my money and time to go to another specialist?

Take care

Hugs,

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Carol,

My worse episode occurred at work one Saturday morning. I had Cheramino,

and my first set of vites upon waking the first time, and two hours later, I

had a proscore 100 choc shake, followed by about 45 min later.. half of a

turkey, cheese and mayo sandwich.. which I only ate 1/2 .. so technically.. I

had 1/4 of a sandwich on whole wheat.. I wasnt at work even 30 min before I

was experiencing the worse feeling all over. I couldnt speak, couldnt think,

felt the room spinning, was dizzy, clammy, and fainty. My co worker, who is

diabetic, came over and asked me if I was ok.. I couldnt even answer her. She

walked me to our break room, got me a regular soda and some peanut butter

crackers. I had a few sips of the soda.. didnt feel any better. I ate a

couple crackers, and started feeling better immediately, and within 30 min

was feeling back to normal.. I have had a few other episodes, but havent

really thought about that carbs might be causing them.. Thanks for the tip,

and I will pay close attention to what I have consumed prior to any further

episodes.. I am keeping a food journal at present.

Hugs,

from GA

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There's also

> the thought that too much of ANYthing, (overeating), even protein, turns

to

> glucose in your body. I remember just reading that a couple of days ago.

> Anyone observed any episodes that might go along with this thinking?

>

**********

makes sense...... I've had it hit me even 30 min after a protein drink,

which was an or so after a balanced meal. Or 10 min after a protein drink.

And my PS100 is 0g sugar. Only 4 carb or something.

The only other pattern I noticed is during unaccustomed exertion, such as

moving boxes or something like that. Don, too for that matter. And HIS

don't match any pattern, either.

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AND I just read it in one of my trade journals, as well!

And of course, WE don't count, but how come so many of us find that PB at

least shortens an attack, even if it can't prevent one?

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Re: Reactive Hypoglycemia

> I was attacked in the grocery store, managed to stumble over to the

> pharmacy, interrupt the man while he was talking to someone else--I knew I

> was going down. I ate the glucose tablets (not bad, but not good), but I

> could not open them or pay for them until I stabilized. Miserable.

>

> Peanut butter on cracker or finger woulda been better, but not only could

I

> not have figured out where it was, I doubt I coulda gotten it open, or

> explained why I was eating THEIR PB in their store without paying.

> ***********************************************************************

> Just caught the tail end of a blurb on the news tonight about PB being

GREAT

> for diabetes....hmmmm all blood sugar related right? Hope there is and

> article in the paper tomorrow about it. I think there IS something to the

PB

> thingy.

> Regards~

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I can't do protein shakes.. Even one bottoms me out, and it does it quickly,

I mean very quickly, sometime's I can't even get myself to sugar in time, I

have to have an AMP of D50. Scary, but I stay away from the shakes, I get

some from food and it doesn't bother me... I pray I'm absorbing enough, my

surgeon say's I am... I hope he's right.

Randy

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Re: Reactive hypoglycemia

> In a message dated 11/26/02 7:00:31 AM Central Standard Time,

> frwhlngrl@... writes:

>

> << I DO NOT do sugar. I eat more protein than anything else in my diet

> because I've always known I needed more. >>

> ---------------------------

>

> As I wondered in an earlier post, maybe " we " just can't handle ANY carbs

at

> certain times, even good carbs (complex, low-glycemic value) ?? There's

also

> the thought that too much of ANYthing, (overeating), even protein, turns

to

> glucose in your body. I remember just reading that a couple of days ago.

> Anyone observed any episodes that might go along with this thinking?

>

> Carol A

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So that's what it is!

I've had two attacks in the past year, both late at night while walking my

dog.

Picture it: Ten p.m., old neighbourhood, not much traffic, not many street

lights, but curbs, t.g. . . . a woman sits on the curb, shaking like a

leaf, wondering: If someone has to call me an ambulance, what will happen

to the dog? Worried dog beside her tries to lick her sweaty face, probably

wondering the same thing . . .

With me (at least when walking) it starts with a shakiness in the back of my

knees and the pit of my stomach. My onset is more gradual than some, I

guess -- the second time it happened I had time to make it home (couldn't

get upstairs though, legs wouldn't work).

I can remember several episodes of this when I was at my lowest weight

previously. Panic attacks, the doctor said. Something then told me there

was nothing wrong with my emotional health or my psyche, but when I regained

a little weight (prior to regaining a lot of course), the episodes stopped.

I forgot about them.

Now after listening in here I'm wondering if some of those little plastic

restaurant-paks of peanut butter and jelly might be a smart addition to the

pockets of my dog-walking jacket. Thanks for the info, everybody!

Janet in

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Yes this is what I have been telling everyone all along. Why I

can't always do the protein shakes. I always would get a weird

reaction and I thought it was early dumping. What do we do about

this? I know if I eat a meal that is all protein then I must

consume some candy at least a half hour after eating and it seems to

do the trick. I don't want to do this because I am paraniod of more

weight gain. If I had more time I would love to do more research on

this topic. I thought I knew the answers. I only have theories as

to what is going on.

Kristy

-- In Graduate-OSSG@y..., tuesdynite@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/26/02 7:00:31 AM Central Standard Time,

> frwhlngrl@m... writes:

>

> << I DO NOT do sugar. I eat more protein than anything else in my

diet

> because I've always known I needed more. >>

> ---------------------------

>

> As I wondered in an earlier post, maybe " we " just can't handle ANY

carbs at

> certain times, even good carbs (complex, low-glycemic value) ??

There's also

> the thought that too much of ANYthing, (overeating), even protein,

turns to

> glucose in your body. I remember just reading that a couple of

days ago.

> Anyone observed any episodes that might go along with this

thinking?

>

> Carol A

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In a message dated 11/27/02 8:21:37 AM Central Standard Time,

janetc@... writes:

<<

Now after listening in here I'm wondering if some of those little plastic

restaurant-paks of peanut butter and jelly might be a smart addition to the

pockets of my dog-walking jacket. >>

----------------------------

Yah, and haven't I read somewhere that certain types of nuts help regulate

the insulin response? So in that case I guess peaNUT butter would make some

sense.........

Carol A

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A couple of disclaimers first, I did not have the RNY I had the SRVG.

Secondly, I had type II diabetes prior to surgery. I lost 78 lbs prior

to surgery and would have low blood sugar at night and first thing in the

morning. I was in cardiac rehab at the time and was usually given a half

a sandwich with some kind of protein. The way it was explained to me was

that the slice of bread would get converted to sugar quicker allowing

enough time for the protein to start converting. It takes longer for

protein to start breaking down then any other food. This is just an

opinion but by just eating protein, you may not be getting enough

" energy " from the food fast enough. I think that is why the peanut

butter and crackers work so well. You get the instant energy from the

crackers until the protein can kick in.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 302 lbs.

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

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writes:

> Yes this is what I have been telling everyone all along. Why I

> can't always do the protein shakes. I always would get a weird

> reaction and I thought it was early dumping. What do we do about

> this? I know if I eat a meal that is all protein then I must

> consume some candy at least a half hour after eating and it seems to

> do the trick. I don't want to do this because I am paraniod of more

> weight gain. If I had more time I would love to do more research on

> this topic. I thought I knew the answers. I only have theories as

> to what is going on.

>

> Kristy

>

>

> -- In Graduate-OSSG@y..., tuesdynite@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 11/26/02 7:00:31 AM Central Standard Time,

> > frwhlngrl@m... writes:

> >

> > << I DO NOT do sugar. I eat more protein than anything else in my

> diet because I've always known I needed more. >>

> > ---------------------------

> >

> > As I wondered in an earlier post, maybe " we " just can't handle ANY

>

> carbs at

> > certain times, even good carbs (complex, low-glycemic value) ??

> There's also

> > the thought that too much of ANYthing, (overeating), even protein,

>

> turns to

> > glucose in your body. I remember just reading that a couple of

> days ago.

> > Anyone observed any episodes that might go along with this

> thinking?

> >

> > Carol A

>

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AND I just read it in one of my trade journals, as well!

And of course, WE don't count, but how come so many of us find that PB at

least shortens an attack, even if it can't prevent one?

*******************************************************************************

I mentioned last night I heard a blurb about peanut butter and diabetes/blood

sugar on the news...well..it was in the paper today..and here is the article.

Harvard study shows that eating nuts may ward off diabetes

By LINDSEY TANNER

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS CHICAGO -- Eating lots of nuts or peanut butter may help

ward off diabetes, a study of more than 83,000 nurses suggests.Women who

reported eating the equivalent of a handful of nuts or one tablespoon of

peanut butter at least five times a week were more than 20 percent less

likely to develop adult-onset, or type 2, diabetes than those who rarely or

never ate those products.Researchers from Harvard University's School of

Public Health analyzed data on 83,818 women ages 34 to 59 who were followed

for up to 16 years. The researchers said the findings would probably apply to

men as well.The findings appear in today's Journal of the American Medical

Association. " Nuts in the past have been considered as an unhealthy food

because of the high-fat content, " said Harvard researcher Dr. Hu.

" Conventional wisdom says that high-fat foods will increase obesity and type

2 diabetes. " But research in the past decade has shown that nuts generally

contain good kinds of fat as well as other nutrients that can help keep

cholesterol at healthy levels.They also contain fiber and magnesium, which

help maintain balanced insulin and glucose levels. Insulin helps the body

convert sugar into energy. Diabetes happens when the body cannot produce or

properly use insulin.During the government-funded study, 3,206 women

developed diabetes.Women who ate lots of nuts led slightly healthier

lifestyles than other women, which could have reduced their risk of

developing diabetes. But Hu said the results held up even when the

researchers compared nut consumption in subgroups of women, such as among

smokers or those who were active.The researchers did not determine what kinds

of nuts women were eating. Most nuts contain unsaturated fats, which can help

lower cholesterol levels, and relatively small amounts of saturated fats,

which can raise levels of the bad kind of cholesterol.Nuts and peanut butter

-- peanuts are actually classified as legumes but have many of the same

qualities as nuts -- are among foods sometimes recommended for diabetics, who

are prone to cardiovascular disease.Some brands of peanut butter, however,

may contain high amounts of sugar or fatty preservatives, so people are

advised to check the label, said Martha Funnell, head of health care and

education for the American Diabetes Association and a University of Michigan

diabetes educator.Funnell said the study's message should be that nuts and

peanut butter can be beneficial if they are eaten instead of -- rather than

in addition to -- lots of refined grains and foods high in saturated

fats. " That doesn't mean that you need to go out and start eating a jar of

peanut butter on top of everything else that you're eating, " Funnell said.

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