RE: Power Wheelchairs - Bill

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Thanks for the warning on that, I'll pass that along to my friend. He just

got it new a few months ago so if there is a problem maybe he can take it

back. He really loves the tilt feature, before that he had a Quickie P200

for 6 or 7 years and loved it but that one doesn't have a tilt feature.

So when are you going to start up your own disability equipment making

business? Some friends from Texas were here visiting last month and they

were talking about needing to design a better trailer to haul their power

wheelchair. Someone in England had a great design but no interest in

marketing to the US so GAVE them the specs and they know someone with a

disabled relative who is an engineer who is going to build a couple. We

were saying it would be great if we could start up a non-profit company to

make these sorts of things and provide them more cheaply.

Hugs,

Pam

Re: Power Wheelchairs - " Tenacity "

Pam,

A warning on the Quickie 626, they have had a problem with the drive wheels

breaking off and I do not know if they have reengineered it yet. It is VERY

expensive to fix. The problem is that they put large drive wheels and a

high

initial torque motor on it which causes the drive pins in the wheels to

wring

off. It also makes it a little jerky taking off. The Quickie 222 has a much

better rating, so I would guess they fixed it on that chair - I have not

seen

that particular chair, I have seen a 626 and the problem.

Take care, Bill Werre

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Pam,

It's easier to get a minivan and a ramp. A trailer can be bought for $400 (US)

which folds up and stores against a wall in a small space. It can be modified

easily for a w/c. However, you then have to worry about rain, etc. In addition

you can get a lift seat for the van. My convertible cost more than a minivan

and the mini's aren't that expensive used.

Unfortunately, manufacturing costs depend on volume and there is not a lot of

volume in handicapped items (compared to say Tv's or beds) so that drives costs

way up. Here is where I have expertise ) Have your friends contact me if

they want easier off the shelf ideas for building a trailer.

Truthfully, I do NOT advocate power w/c's for MSA patients as most of them can

not judge distance well and reaction time is down. A $2300 manual w/c can be

MUCH more comfortable than even a $6000 power w/c and it only weighs 45 pounds -

if you get it with detachable wheels (about $200 Medicare will not pay for them)

- no part weighs over 20 pounds. However, many power w/cs do have the control

box detachable so someone can walk beside or behind and control it. Most do

have enough power to go up a ramp into a minivan (or PT Cruiser).

Take care, Bill

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Pam Bower wrote:

> Thanks for the warning on that, I'll pass that along to my friend. He just

> got it new a few months ago so if there is a problem maybe he can take it

> back. He really loves the tilt feature, before that he had a Quickie P200

> for 6 or 7 years and loved it but that one doesn't have a tilt feature.

>

> So when are you going to start up your own disability equipment making

> business? Some friends from Texas were here visiting last month and they

> were talking about needing to design a better trailer to haul their power

> wheelchair. Someone in England had a great design but no interest in

> marketing to the US so GAVE them the specs and they know someone with a

> disabled relative who is an engineer who is going to build a couple. We

> were saying it would be great if we could start up a non-profit company to

> make these sorts of things and provide them more cheaply.

>

> Hugs,

> Pam

> Re: Power Wheelchairs - " Tenacity "

>

> Pam,

>

> A warning on the Quickie 626, they have had a problem with the drive wheels

> breaking off and I do not know if they have reengineered it yet. It is VERY

> expensive to fix. The problem is that they put large drive wheels and a

> high

> initial torque motor on it which causes the drive pins in the wheels to

> wring

> off. It also makes it a little jerky taking off. The Quickie 222 has a much

> better rating, so I would guess they fixed it on that chair - I have not

> seen

> that particular chair, I have seen a 626 and the problem.

>

> Take care, Bill Werre

>

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Jan-

What are a turney seat and a corony base?

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Bill,

I am right there with you on the ability of an MSA patient to drive

the electric scooter/wheelchair. My husbands balance is so poor and

his ability to make moves to avoid something is equally as poor. We

tried several scooters and although the scooter with the front

steerting column was better (the hand control on the side arm of a

chair was impossible) it is still not safe for him or others around

him. But, I must admit that I am amazed at the difference in

symptoms and severity of symptoms among those on the list. Maybe it

works well for some and not at all for others. Jerry did alright for

maybe one year. We became really alarmed when he did not judge the

distance to the edge of the sidewalk and went off, tipping the

electric wheelchair over. We now use the turny seat with a corony

base in the car. This allows him to sit in the front seat, never

transfer while we are out as the front seat becomes a wheelchair when

we leave the vehicle. I would rather push him then see him careen

out of control down the parking lot. We were able to keep all the

seats in our vehicle and not need a lift by using this type of seat.

>

> > Thanks for the warning on that, I'll pass that along to my

friend. He just

> > got it new a few months ago so if there is a problem maybe he can

take it

> > back. He really loves the tilt feature, before that he had a

Quickie P200

> > for 6 or 7 years and loved it but that one doesn't have a tilt

feature.

> >

> > So when are you going to start up your own disability equipment

making

> > business? Some friends from Texas were here visiting last month

and they

> > were talking about needing to design a better trailer to haul

their power

> > wheelchair. Someone in England had a great design but no

interest in

> > marketing to the US so GAVE them the specs and they know someone

with a

> > disabled relative who is an engineer who is going to build a

couple. We

> > were saying it would be great if we could start up a non-profit

company to

> > make these sorts of things and provide them more cheaply.

> >

> > Hugs,

> > Pam

> > Re: Power Wheelchairs - " Tenacity "

> >

> > Pam,

> >

> > A warning on the Quickie 626, they have had a problem with the

drive wheels

> > breaking off and I do not know if they have reengineered it yet.

It is VERY

> > expensive to fix. The problem is that they put large drive

wheels and a

> > high

> > initial torque motor on it which causes the drive pins in the

wheels to

> > wring

> > off. It also makes it a little jerky taking off. The Quickie 222

has a much

> > better rating, so I would guess they fixed it on that chair - I

have not

> > seen

> > that particular chair, I have seen a 626 and the problem.

> >

> > Take care, Bill Werre

> >

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[Guest guest]

re: MSA patients and power w/c. I don't want to

generalize and say that all MSA patients have problems

with power w/c, but I will say that, in my opinion, my

father should not have had one. He didn't have the

depth perception or reflexes necessary to operate one.

He couldn't judge when to stop or turn, often ran off

the ramp of their van or would run into someone in the

mall, etc. ly, I think it was less than safe for

him and those around him.

It was a difficult situation for all of us, to say the

least. He felt he had finally regained some of his

independence when he could get around without relying

on others and it would have been difficult for us to

take that away from him.

in OK

--- janburg88 bosendorfer88@...> wrote:

> Bill,

> I am right there with you on the ability of an MSA

> patient to drive

> the electric scooter/wheelchair. My husbands

> balance is so poor and

> his ability to make moves to avoid something is

> equally as poor. We

> tried several scooters and although the scooter with

> the front

> steerting column was better (the hand control on the

> side arm of a

> chair was impossible) it is still not safe for him

> or others around

> him. But, I must admit that I am amazed at the

> difference in

> symptoms and severity of symptoms among those on the

> list. Maybe it

> works well for some and not at all for others.

> Jerry did alright for

> maybe one year. We became really alarmed when he did

> not judge the

> distance to the edge of the sidewalk and went off,

> tipping the

> electric wheelchair over. We now use the turny seat

> with a corony

> base in the car. This allows him to sit in the

> front seat, never

> transfer while we are out as the front seat becomes

> a wheelchair when

> we leave the vehicle. I would rather push him then

> see him careen

> out of control down the parking lot. We were able

> to keep all the

> seats in our vehicle and not need a lift by using

> this type of seat.

>

>

> >

> > > Thanks for the warning on that, I'll pass that

> along to my

> friend. He just

> > > got it new a few months ago so if there is a

> problem maybe he can

> take it

> > > back. He really loves the tilt feature, before

> that he had a

> Quickie P200

> > > for 6 or 7 years and loved it but that one

> doesn't have a tilt

> feature.

> > >

> > > So when are you going to start up your own

> disability equipment

> making

> > > business? Some friends from Texas were here

> visiting last month

> and they

> > > were talking about needing to design a better

> trailer to haul

> their power

> > > wheelchair. Someone in England had a great

> design but no

> interest in

> > > marketing to the US so GAVE them the specs and

> they know someone

> with a

> > > disabled relative who is an engineer who is

> going to build a

> couple. We

> > > were saying it would be great if we could start

> up a non-profit

> company to

> > > make these sorts of things and provide them more

> cheaply.

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > > Pam

> > > Re: Power Wheelchairs -

> " Tenacity "

> > >

> > > Pam,

> > >

> > > A warning on the Quickie 626, they have had a

> problem with the

> drive wheels

> > > breaking off and I do not know if they have

> reengineered it yet.

> It is VERY

> > > expensive to fix. The problem is that they put

> large drive

> wheels and a

> > > high

> > > initial torque motor on it which causes the

> drive pins in the

> wheels to

> > > wring

> > > off. It also makes it a little jerky taking off.

> The Quickie 222

> has a much

> > > better rating, so I would guess they fixed it on

> that chair - I

> have not

> > > seen

> > > that particular chair, I have seen a 626 and the

> problem.

> > >

> > > Take care, Bill Werre

> > >

> > >

>

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