passing out

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It is called a vagal response. It is from an over-stimulation of the

vagal nerve. It is very common in quadriplegics.

Margie

(retired LPN)

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the responses to my little episode. I still can't quite

pin down what the problem was but I've been put off from eating all day

today (except one protein shake). I think it's possible I have a minor

stomach bug but it's also possible I'm just scared to eat.

One more question for the professionals who talked about that nerve

compression - I don't think I ever really did hard straining, but even

if I did strain a little, I had left the bathroom a full minute or two

before passing out. When I first came out I felt good, then I felt the

light headed sweaty thing, then the nausea, then as I walked back toward

the bathroom I passed out. Would that make sense or does the nerve

compression have a more immediate effect?

I'm guessing there could have been a stomach bug, dehydration, dumping,

and/or possibly this nerve compression that factored in. On one hand

I'm scared to do much of anything (eat, poo) but on the other hand I

want to test it and find out what happened. If it happens again and I

can narrow down the problem I will definitely post it.

in Ortonville, MI

[Guest guest]

It is a vaso-vagal reaction.

doc carolyn (just my opinion, of course)

RE: Passing out

> I remember reading very recently about someone passing out several times

> and not knowing why but I can't find the message. I had my RNY in June

> of '01 and just today I had a very scary and first time ever experience.

>

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> I ate some candy (nothing new there, I dump but not badly) and a short

> time later I felt crampy. I went to the bathroom to see if I could

> empty anything out but no luck there. I came out of the bathroom and

> felt lightheaded, hot, clammy, and nauseated. I went back to the

> bathroom and the next thing I knew I was waking up on the floor with

> freaked out people all around. I was out for less than a minute but I

> don't remember going down and I was totally out. Paramedics came and

> all was fine so they left. I felt queasy for awhile after that but I

> got better. My dad is a diabetic so he took my blood sugar and it was

> 174 right after I woke up. A half hour later it was 135.

>

> One thing the paramedic said is that people with my surgery sometimes

> have a syndrome that I can't remember the name of - G something Reflex,

> I think. She said when you strain to go to the bathroom or vomit it

> does something to a nerve and lowers the heart rate to the point of

> passing out. Once you fall everything normalizes and you wake right up.

> I didn't think I strained hard at anything but the rest sounded like

> what happened. Does anyone know what this condition is called so I can

> do some research?

>

> It doesn't look like I was hypoglycemic so has anyone else experienced

> anything like this? I felt a little dehydrated, I had eaten healthy a

> few hours before (not counting the candy) and that is all I can think of

> that's relevant.

>

> Any insight would be much appreciated.

>

> in Ortonville MI

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[Guest guest]

>>>When I first came out I felt good, then I felt the

light headed sweaty thing, then the nausea, then as I walked back toward

the bathroom I passed out. Would that make sense or does the nerve

compression have a more immediate effect? <<<<<<

A Vasovagal reaction is a reaction not related to the vagal nerve reaction

associated with straining that is actually most common in older men. The

vasovagal reaction can occur at any time but is most common after a stimulus

(emotional, shock, or otherwise). Then the light-headedness, dizziness and/or

sweating starts. Followed by nausea, pale to green appearing face, and if you

aren't sitting or lying down, fainting comes next.

I've seen this occur when a child (who loves every medical and blood

containing show on tv - not gore stuff) saw their own bloody wound, when a

medical student stood in the cadaver lab for too long, when a bad smell came

through a room of people, when difficult news was presented to someone, when an

individual was in pain, or for no reason at all.

It is not something to be overly concerned about unless it occurs on a

frequent basis. I would encourage you to push fluids following this to be sure

you are not dehydrated, but it is likely that it was a sympathetic nerve

response.

doc carolyn (just my opinion, of course)