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In a message dated 11/30/2002 10:48:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,

rlogle@... writes:

> It's called a vegal maneveur or Valsalvo Maneveur. This happens sometimes

> when someone is baring down to have a BM, it causes them to brady down,

> they

> pass out and most times are fine.

Whoops, Randy, it's spelled Valsalva's and your definition is not correct.

Valsalva's is when the head of the bed or table is placed lower than the

feet. :-) Doc Carolyn explained the other one 'vasovagal " :-)

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I have had my share of hitting the floor over the past two years and

after many ER visits via ambulance and two electrophysiology studies, it

was determined that I have SVT but more of a metabolic nature than

cardiac related. It has to do with not getting enough fluids and if I'm

not eating right. If I get the least little bit behind on my fluid

intake, my heart rate will go from 35-40 beats per minute to over 185.

I've cracked my ribs, dislocated my shoulder, got a black eye and

suffered two concussions from this. I must say I'm awfully fun to be

around at times. Right now the doc has me on Atenelol to control the run

away heart rate, if I go off the meds, which we have tried a few times

in the past, I run into problems, so there definitely is a cardiac

component in there too. My blood pressure runs extremely low in the

first place and the Atenelol lowers it even more, so I'm in a Catch 22

situation. My cardiologist wants me to wear compression stockings all

the time because it will help the blood flow in regards to the legs when

standing up from a sitting position. Have been much better with the

extra fluids, medication and time to time the compression stockings.

Have to admit they make my thighs look thinner. : ) But too hot to wear

during the summer months. Have been more compliant now that the cold

weather is here and notice a considerable difference.

Most of the time I can feel an episode coming on and either grab a seat

or sit on the floor before I pass out. Other times, bam, I'm down.

Just make sure that you are always completely hydrated and keep your

sugar levels in check. I too get that queasy, clammy feeling when my

sugar levels drop.

Hope this helps.

Regina

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does the nerve

compression have a more immediate effect?

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If you're vagaling down then it would be pretty quick, not one or two mins

after coming outta the BR. I " m sure it's probably somethin' else.

Randy

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my Dog's think I am.

RE: Passing out

> Thanks for all the responses to my little episode. I still can't quite

> pin down what the problem was but I've been put off from eating all day

> today (except one protein shake). I think it's possible I have a minor

> stomach bug but it's also possible I'm just scared to eat.

>

> One more question for the professionals who talked about that nerve

> compression - I don't think I ever really did hard straining, but even

> if I did strain a little, I had left the bathroom a full minute or two

> before passing out. When I first came out I felt good, then I felt the

> light headed sweaty thing, then the nausea, then as I walked back toward

> the bathroom I passed out. Would that make sense or does the nerve

> compression have a more immediate effect?

>

> I'm guessing there could have been a stomach bug, dehydration, dumping,

> and/or possibly this nerve compression that factored in. On one hand

> I'm scared to do much of anything (eat, poo) but on the other hand I

> want to test it and find out what happened. If it happens again and I

> can narrow down the problem I will definitely post it.

>

> in Ortonville, MI

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