Guest guest Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 just my two cen t's contrib to the pile--re , profound sweats, pale clammy, loss of blood pressure, fainting dead away; when this occurred to me, it was the first time, toxic shock and peritonitis, and the second and third times, anaphalactic shock---all rolling hot to ER trips. This rather 'vague-vagus nervous " condition you are all speaking about sounds like it would cause great alarm. I can understand. Doc C> I have often wondered why some of us are so what, delicate? and others have the constitutions of iron. let's hear it for the iron people. Can we gt a blood transfusion from those folks? Everyone, hang in there. love, ceep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 it's spelled Valsalva's and your definition is not correct. Valsalva's is when the head of the bed or table is placed lower than the feet. :-) ______________________________________________ Okay, I was wrong about the spelling.. As you see below there are many uses for a Valsalva maneuver. My emergency nurses certification is in the mail back to the Emergency Nurses Association, I think I'll send my ACLS back also, all because of bad spelling...LOL... Randy PurposeThe Valsalva maneuver is used with patients who have suspected heart abnormalities, often in conjunction with echocardiography . The maneuver is based on the fact that when a patient forcibly exhales against a closed nose and mouth while bearing down, as if having a bowel movement, specific changes occur in blood pressure and the rate and volume of blood returning to the heart. The Valsalva maneuver also corrects some rapid heartbeats originating in the atria. When the maneuver is done correctly, blood pressure rises. This forces the heart to respond by correcting its rhythm and beating more slowly. On rare occasions, the Valsalva maneuver can be used to diminish chest pain in patients with mild coronary disease. Unrelated to any evaluation of the heart, the Valsalva maneuver is also taught to patients with multiple sclerosis who are unable to fully empty the bladder (flaccid bladder). It is sometimes used in sexual therapy to help men avoid premature ejaculation . Precautions The Valsalva maneuver should not be performed on patients who have severe coronary artery disease , have experienced recent heart attack , or where there is a moderate to severe reduction in blood volume. rlogle@... www.geocities.com/rogle32/ AIM: rlogleeln Open RNY: Sept. 26, 2001: 207 lbs gone. Daddy to Doogun, Jasper, and Zoe. Lord, Please help me to become the Person my Dog's think I am. Re: RE: Passing out > In a message dated 11/30/2002 10:48:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, > rlogle@... writes: > > > It's called a vegal maneveur or Valsalvo Maneveur. This happens sometimes > > when someone is baring down to have a BM, it causes them to brady down, > > they > > pass out and most times are fine. > > Whoops, Randy, it's spelled Valsalva's and your definition is not correct. > Valsalva's is when the head of the bed or table is placed lower than the > feet. :-) Doc Carolyn explained the other one 'vasovagal " :-) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 The vegas nerve is the nerve which can get compressed, cause your heart rate to drop, and cause you to pass out. I forget the name of the " reflex " but this happened to my daughter when a friend tried to give her a massage and compressed the nerve, and she went down like a sack of potatoes. I was at a wedding shower for my other daughter when I got the call that they were taking her to the ER in College Station, 3 hours away. They were releasing her just as we got there...they were concerned by her very very low heart rate, but she runs marathons and is very athletic and her heart rate is always low. anyway, I learned about this nerve from her experience. KC ******************************* ****************************************************** That's IT....it's been driving me crazy ever since I read the post...its a Vagul or vegle reflex..not sure on the spelling...but I had the same thing in the hospital without passing out...at least that's what they called it...it was after my liver biopsy...and my bloodpressure dropped precipitously....and that was the only thing they could come up with...had the whole floor hopping there for awhile...it was rather comical actually. I guess I woulda passed out had I been on my feet...but I was flat on my back...no where to go. Regards~ ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Jacque -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* www.jacquemiller.gasupusa.com Discount Gasoline! Save 21% with a Costco-like membership! Ask me how! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 I believe this condition is called vaso vagal syncope. J. RNY 12/99 I ate some candy (nothing new there, I dump but not badly) and a short time later I felt crampy. I went to the bathroom to see if I could empty anything out but no luck there. I came out of the bathroom and felt lightheaded, hot, clammy, and nauseated. I went back to the bathroom and the next thing I knew I was waking up on the floor.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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