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Hello all!

This is my second post (not counting my introducation). On

Thanksgiving I replied to in NJ's post regarding her pains.

I was asked to elaborate. I'm almost glad someone asked as I was

rushed writing that (as I said it was on Thanksgiving and I wanted

to travel) and didn't elaborate or even proofread. This is what

happened:

I had lap RNY on December 13, 2000. That went very well. On

December 22, 2001 I had VERY excruciating pain in my lower left

abdoman. My mother took me to the ER and they took an x-ray to look

for a blockage. They found nothing (after additional tests, too)

and sent me home. I was fine for a few days and then it happened

again. I went back to the ER where they checked me for stones (I

already had my gall bladder out earlier that year (March 2001), and

appendix. They checked for PID (Pelvic Inflammatory Disease) as the

pain was that low. The pain eventually mgrated to the center of my

belly but still below the belly buton. On January 7 I was taken to

the ER and another round of tests for blockage and everything was

done. It did't happen after a specific meal and it happened about

every 5 days or so. I went to my surgeon (who is 2 hours away) and

did some more tests. Afterover 2 months of pain and about 10 trips

to the ER later (no exag) my surgeon suggested doing a kind of

exploratory surgery to find out what was going on (no one had a

clue). The first week of March (of this year) he performed surgery

that took until 2 am to complete! He said my intestines " twisted

like a pretzel " but would untwist enough every other day or so so

that I didn't look like I had a blockage. I could have dies any one

of those times since as we k now blockages are very serious. I lost

a lot of weight because I was so afraid to eat since I would throw

up or have those excrutiating pains. Unfortunately he had to do it

open (my original was done lap). Now I am fine-perfectly fine. The

scary part of this story was that no one caould figure out what was

wrong (including my surgeon). So the pain (which was the worst pain

ever!) was very low and on the right side. It eventually spread to

the middle of my belly but was always under the belly button. Hope

this helps-again don't hesitate to ask.

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In a message dated 12/2/2002 6:56:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,

chriswags1972@... writes:

> The first week of March (of this year) he performed surgery

> that took until 2 am to complete! He said my intestines " twisted

> like a pretzel " but would untwist enough every other day or so so

> that I didn't look like I had a blockage. I could have dies any one

> of those times since as we k now blockages are very serious. I lost

> a lot of weight because I was so afraid to eat since I would throw

> up or have those excrutiating pains. Unfortunately he had to do it

> open (my original was done lap). Now I am fine-perfectly fine.

***************************************

, so glad you're here with us and well now. Bowel obstructions are

supposed to be one of the most painful things we can go through, as some

others here will attest to, also.

Continued good health,

in NJ

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Deb, I know this was meant for the list, so I'm forwarding it for you :))

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This is the first posting I've seen on any WLS list about intestines

twisting or an intestinal blockage for someone who had a *lap*

surgery. It seems a lot more common with open surgeries, where they

move the intestines in and out of the body cavity.

Has anyone else on the list had this kind of problem after a lap

surgery? Just curious. One of the reasons I chose a surgeon whose

expertise included lap surgery was the supposedly lower risks for

hernias and intestinal blockages.

Deb C.

Highest weight - 410 lbs

Weight 2/18/02 day of surgery - 386 lbs

Weight today - 252 lbs

> In a message dated 12/2/2002 6:56:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> chriswags1972@y... writes:

>

> > The first week of March (of this year) he performed surgery

> > that took until 2 am to complete! He said my intestines " twisted

> > like a pretzel " but would untwist enough every other day or so so

> > that I didn't look like I had a blockage. I could have dies any

one of those times since as we k now blockages are very serious. I

lost a lot of weight because I was so afraid to eat since I would

throw up or have those excrutiating pains. Unfortunately he had to do

it open (my original was done lap). Now I am fine-perfectly fine.

> ***************************************

> , so glad you're here with us and well now. Bowel obstructions

are

> supposed to be one of the most painful things we can go through, as some

> others here will attest to, also.

>

> Continued good health,

> in NJ

>

>

>

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My surgery was done lap, and my surgeons pulled all the intestines out through

the naval incision, measured them, and then tucked them back in (they like to be

verrrrry precise about exactly how much was bypassed for each patient!). I

think I would be as prone to twisting or blockages as anyone else.

Kate

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I think one of the reasons that obstructions are more common when one has

open vs lap is because of adhesions. Mine was caused by an adhesion growing

around the intestine. Came on suddenly and was excruciating pain!

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move the intestines in and out of the body cavity.>>

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> My surgery was done lap, and my surgeons pulled all the intestines out

through the naval incision, measured them, and then tucked them back in

(they like to be verrrrry precise about exactly how much was bypassed for

each patient!). I think I would be as prone to twisting or blockages as

anyone else.

>

> Kate

>

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This is not a scientific observation, by any means, but in my own local

support group it seems that the majority of folks who end up with

complications, particularly blockages/twisted tummies are LAP patients...not

open....not sure if it is because more are having it done lap now, or if the

true incidence of this type of complications is really higher....JMHO (Just

My Humble Observation)

KC

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>

My surgery was done lap, and my surgeons pulled all the intestines out

through the naval incision, measured them, and then tucked them back in

(they like to be verrrrry precise about exactly how much was bypassed for

each patient!). I think I would be as prone to twisting or blockages as

anyone else.

Kate

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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My surgery was lap and at about 18 months out I had a

twist/kink/hernia and had to had it unkinked and that surgery was

also lap. Unfortunately, they were not able to use the

orginal " holes " to do the kink surgery. The holes had shrunk

together too closely for them to be used again so instead of having

the orginal 5 little scars I now have 9 (they used one of the

orginals). It was just an in and out surgery. And now my surgeon

sews down more of the intestine than he did before because of the

number of kinks. He said it was due to the rapid weight loss

allowing more room for the intestine to move around in.

Alice

The Loon

RNY 12/28/00

> > In a message dated 12/2/2002 6:56:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > chriswags1972@y... writes:

> >

> > > The first week of March (of this year) he performed surgery

> > > that took until 2 am to complete! He said my

intestines " twisted

> > > like a pretzel " but would untwist enough every other day or so

so

> > > that I didn't look like I had a blockage. I could have dies

any

> one of those times since as we k now blockages are very serious. I

> lost a lot of weight because I was so afraid to eat since I would

> throw up or have those excrutiating pains. Unfortunately he had to

do

> it open (my original was done lap). Now I am fine-perfectly fine.

> > ***************************************

> > , so glad you're here with us and well now. Bowel

obstructions

> are

> > supposed to be one of the most painful things we can go through,

as some

> > others here will attest to, also.

> >

> > Continued good health,

> > in NJ

> >

> >

> >

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