Surgery and impacts on speech

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I am debating whether to go through with surgery, and I'd like to

know what are people's opinions and experiences on speech before and

after surgery..

I have what I would consider a minor open bite, and a minor overjet.

Everybody thinks I look great and don't understand why I would

consider surgery. My case would require upper impaction and lower

advancement as per the surgeons.

Right now, I seem to have difficulties with some S sounds and F

sounds.. It seems to be a recent thing, and I don't know if it's due

to the shift of my teeth because of braces, or something else.

To add to this, I have found some information on the web about

openbite conditions that may impact sibilant sounds (sounds with F,

S, Z, etc).

Can anybody relate to this? I'd like to start a discussion on this..

Thanks,

RVM

[Guest guest]

I don't have an open bite, did have surgery, and feel myself having a

bit more trouble with sibillants than I did before. There's one in my

name, and I find more people saying, " What was that? "

Other people say they can't hear it, though. I do. It's not enough

that it would have prevented my having the surgery (which saved my

teeth).

It is frequent that the presurgery bite gets messier and more

difficult before surgery, and then all falls into place once things

have been repositioned.

Cammie

> Hello,

>

> I am debating whether to go through with surgery, and I'd like to

> know what are people's opinions and experiences on speech before

and

> after surgery..

>

> I have what I would consider a minor open bite, and a minor

overjet.

> Everybody thinks I look great and don't understand why I would

> consider surgery. My case would require upper impaction and lower

> advancement as per the surgeons.

>

> Right now, I seem to have difficulties with some S sounds and F

> sounds.. It seems to be a recent thing, and I don't know if it's

due

> to the shift of my teeth because of braces, or something else.

>

> To add to this, I have found some information on the web about

> openbite conditions that may impact sibilant sounds (sounds with F,

> S, Z, etc).

>

> Can anybody relate to this? I'd like to start a discussion on this..

>

> Thanks,

> RVM

[Guest guest]

Hello,

From my personal experience I would recommend not going through with the

surgery.

Mine was screwed up, and I've since heard about many more.

If you don't have to get it, it's not worth the risk. The jaw(especially the

TMJ joint) is very complex and if something goes wrong, it can be hell.

Mike

>

>Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] Surgery and impacts on speech

>Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:47:45 -0000

>

>Hello,

>

>I am debating whether to go through with surgery, and I'd like to

>know what are people's opinions and experiences on speech before and

>after surgery..

>

>I have what I would consider a minor open bite, and a minor overjet.

>Everybody thinks I look great and don't understand why I would

>consider surgery. My case would require upper impaction and lower

>advancement as per the surgeons.

>

>Right now, I seem to have difficulties with some S sounds and F

>sounds.. It seems to be a recent thing, and I don't know if it's due

>to the shift of my teeth because of braces, or something else.

>

>To add to this, I have found some information on the web about

>openbite conditions that may impact sibilant sounds (sounds with F,

>S, Z, etc).

>

>Can anybody relate to this? I'd like to start a discussion on this..

>

>Thanks,

>RVM

>

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[Guest guest]

The four elements that affect the way we make sounds are our pallet,

tongue, teeth, and lips. If you change the position of any one of

those, it will change the way we pronounce sounds.

So, when your teeth are moved by braces and your jaws is repositioned

by surgery there is a great chance that the way you pronounce words

will be altered.(for the better)

> Hello,

>

> I am debating whether to go through with surgery, and I'd like to

> know what are people's opinions and experiences on speech before

and

> after surgery..

>

> I have what I would consider a minor open bite, and a minor

overjet.

> Everybody thinks I look great and don't understand why I would

> consider surgery. My case would require upper impaction and lower

> advancement as per the surgeons.

>

> Right now, I seem to have difficulties with some S sounds and F

> sounds.. It seems to be a recent thing, and I don't know if it's

due

> to the shift of my teeth because of braces, or something else.

>

> To add to this, I have found some information on the web about

> openbite conditions that may impact sibilant sounds (sounds with F,

> S, Z, etc).

>

> Can anybody relate to this? I'd like to start a discussion on this..

>

> Thanks,

> RVM

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I can completely relate to what you're saying. I have an open bite as

well. Before braces I never really noticed problems with my speech,

because the open bite I have wasn't even (the teeth were closer

together on one side than the other so I could still make " S " sounds).

Now that I've had braces on for over a year, my teeth are perfectly

straight which has evened out the open bite and made it worse. It's

not that bad, but I've had several friends say to me " Kirstin, you

sound like you have a sort of lisp. " Haha and until you mentioned it,

I didn't think I had problems saying " F " sounds, but now I'm noticing

that I don't say them properly (thanks a lot )

I'm not sure if I'd go through the surgery if speech was my only

concern, (I'm doing it for the speech problems, eating/biting food

difficulties, some cracking of the jaw, back molars wearing down,

tension in my chin from trying to keep my lips closed and cosmetic

reasons) If speech is your only real concern and it really does bother

you, then I'd tell you to go for it.

My surgery date is May 3rd (only 23 more days) and I'm really looking

forward to it. Good luck if you decide to have it done!

~Kirstin

> Hello,

>

> I am debating whether to go through with surgery, and I'd like to

> know what are people's opinions and experiences on speech before and

> after surgery..

>

> I have what I would consider a minor open bite, and a minor overjet.

> Everybody thinks I look great and don't understand why I would

> consider surgery. My case would require upper impaction and lower

> advancement as per the surgeons.

>

> Right now, I seem to have difficulties with some S sounds and F

> sounds.. It seems to be a recent thing, and I don't know if it's due

> to the shift of my teeth because of braces, or something else.

>

> To add to this, I have found some information on the web about

> openbite conditions that may impact sibilant sounds (sounds with F,

> S, Z, etc).

>

> Can anybody relate to this? I'd like to start a discussion on this..

>

> Thanks,

> RVM

[Guest guest]

Hi There!

I can tell you that aside from my inability to chew properly when I

had my open-bite (I am now a little over 3 weeks post-op

Upper/Lower/Genio) that another highly motivating factor in having

the surgery was due to my frustration over not being able to

ennunciate words correctly, ie...S, Z, etc...

Before the surgery, I would actually analyze what I would say in a

conversation first like a prior editing so I wouldn't have to say

words with S or Z etc. The speech problem affected me in sooooo many

ways. I wasn't able to properly express myself as I was able to in

the past (my open bite slowly came to be over the last 10 years or

so).

Now, even with with the post swelling and numbness, I no longer feel

the need to edit my words and I can clearly communicate what I want

to say. WHAT A JOY!!!!!

Could you send me link to the website about the open bite condition

that you were referring to?

Thank you,

Marcie

> Hello,

>

> I am debating whether to go through with surgery, and I'd like to

> know what are people's opinions and experiences on speech before

and

> after surgery..

>

> I have what I would consider a minor open bite, and a minor

overjet.

> Everybody thinks I look great and don't understand why I would

> consider surgery. My case would require upper impaction and lower

> advancement as per the surgeons.

>

> Right now, I seem to have difficulties with some S sounds and F

> sounds.. It seems to be a recent thing, and I don't know if it's

due

> to the shift of my teeth because of braces, or something else.

>

> To add to this, I have found some information on the web about

> openbite conditions that may impact sibilant sounds (sounds with

F,

> S, Z, etc).

>

> Can anybody relate to this? I'd like to start a discussion on

this..

>

> Thanks,

> RVM

[Guest guest]

Hi!

I started having trouble pronouncing certain letters after getting

braces and my ortho informed me that it was indeed due to my teeth

changing positions. I still have some problems with certain sounds

(4 months post-op), but my surgeon says it will get better as I get

use to my 'new mouth'.

Best of luck!

Johanne

> Hello,

>

> I am debating whether to go through with surgery, and I'd like to

> know what are people's opinions and experiences on speech before

and

> after surgery..

>

> I have what I would consider a minor open bite, and a minor

overjet.

> Everybody thinks I look great and don't understand why I would

> consider surgery. My case would require upper impaction and lower

> advancement as per the surgeons.

>

> Right now, I seem to have difficulties with some S sounds and F

> sounds.. It seems to be a recent thing, and I don't know if it's

due

> to the shift of my teeth because of braces, or something else.

>

> To add to this, I have found some information on the web about

> openbite conditions that may impact sibilant sounds (sounds with F,

> S, Z, etc).

>

> Can anybody relate to this? I'd like to start a discussion on this..

>

> Thanks,

> RVM

[Guest guest]

my speech is more difficult after surgery....dont ask me why -- but after

upper and lower it is hard for me to pronounce s words........ this surgery is

far from perfect and does not have all the benefits everyone claims..think

twice!

[Guest guest]

Friend,

Nobody claims -- at least nobody I know claims -- that the

orthognathic surgery is perfect, or will have complete benefits for

everybody in every case.

I think we have plowed this ground before.

I also think you're right -- anybody contemplating any surgery should

think not just twice, but thrice, and many more times. And most do.

Have you tried any speech therapy? I am curious about whether I could

learn to manage my perceived defect better. But I am sort of

suspicious of speech therapists. The one we have seen blithely

charged us $250+ for a half an hour, most of which she spent at the

Xerox machine, photocopying exercises that proved unnecessary and

unhelpful. We argued the fee down, but that was not a good

introduction.

C.

> my speech is more difficult after surgery....dont ask me why -- but

after

> upper and lower it is hard for me to pronounce s words........ this

surgery is

> far from perfect and does not have all the benefits everyone

claims..think

> twice!

>

>

>